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greyhaze
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vanrulzz
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| | 12/23/2007 8:20 PM |
| | yay! yuantis is awesome | | | |
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angelfiend
Sneak
83 Posts
| | 12/23/2007 9:39 PM |
| | That green dragon is so terrible looking. Horrible. What are they doing? How could they think that it looks good? It looks like a crap. | |
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xuthal
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649 Posts
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| | 12/23/2007 10:03 PM |
| Posted By angelfiend on 12/23/2007 9:39 PM
That green dragon is so terrible looking. Horrible. What are they doing? How could they think that it looks good? It looks like a crap. Second that. It looks too cartoonish. I won't be buying this starter set. I'll pick up a single or two from Auggie if they look good in person, but my players would laugh at that stupid dragon...
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Corim Danex
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6621 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 12/23/2007 10:16 PM |
| | Wow. I cannot believe how stupid looking the new green dragon is. It is so terrible looking, I don't know if I will ever get that starter set. Too bad, because the other minis look like they might be cool. But the dragon is the heavy hitter, and I have zero interest in that piece of junk. | |
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MAURIZIO
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930 Posts
Lima, Perú
| | 12/23/2007 11:24 PM |
| Ok, now how we can call it? LGD or LGC (large Green Crap)
First they make a horrible Troll, Now a Cartoonish Dragon, later an Ogre like SHREK?
Or is SOmewthing new like Capricious Cooper Dragon
Maybe is Garbage Green Dragon??????
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iluvxtina
Underboss
1497 Posts
Spain
| | 12/24/2007 1:09 AM |
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| I absolutely agree with Maurizio: the new green dragon,s head is ,simply, ridiculous. The new look of some minis like ogre and troll in DoD is worse than the older and I do not know anybody who actually like it.Obviously yhe old copper dragon in angelfire is a much better sculpt and paintjob than the new one.And about the other minis in the picture (the heroes I suppose) they all look very good and I,ll go for all of them since I love PC minis. | |
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| | 12/24/2007 5:33 AM |
| | the original artwork for all the pieces was a lot better than this. Very disapointed. The sellsword has the same pose as obould. At least the dwarf looks good. | |
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Count Dooku
Commander
4636 Posts
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| | 12/24/2007 6:05 AM |
| The guy with the greatsword and the female PC are excellent. The Green dragon is a joke..A really bad joke. An Abomination that is medium is not so cool. Why so many Yaun-ti lately? Im so tired of Dwarves with axes. :( 2 out of 5 is not a very good score. | |
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stephengroy
Underboss
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| | 12/24/2007 6:18 AM |
| The Green looks like he oughter have a cigar, and wring his hands like a Bond villain
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Vrecknidj
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| | 12/24/2007 6:19 AM |
| Posted By Count Dooku on 12/24/2007 6:05 AM
Im so tired of Dwarves with axes.
I really want to see a dwarf with a spear. And I'd liek to see dwarves with some other weapons too. The old axe-wielding dwarf is getting a bit old.
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| | 12/24/2007 6:46 AM |
| | The dwarves from Night Below with picks were a refreshing change... | |
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maijstral
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| | 12/24/2007 6:55 AM |
| | I love the yuan-ti but i'm with the rest the dragon looks very odd even its pose, like a cat about to make a deposit in its litterbox. | | | |
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Teflon Jeff
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| | 12/24/2007 8:44 AM |
| | Yeah, the LGD looks bad, but I'll still probably pick one up. | |
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yack
Commander
3164 Posts
Gatineau Canada
| | 12/24/2007 11:23 AM |
| Too bad about the green man it's ugly... good for a mod if you cut the long head shorter and trim off the nose horn. The yuan-ti looks awesome!
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bshugg
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| | 12/24/2007 12:36 PM |
| I'm not happy that they are changing the look of the dragons just because they can. They looked great and distinctive as is and there was no good reason to change them and thus invalidate so much of their older minis and books.
Still I do like the look of the new green a lot if you look at it from outside the DnD perspective. It has a very athletic look with good curves and points. If you didn't tell me it was for DnD I would be really happy with its look.
Why the heck did they change them? :( | |
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Sirohk
Commander
3813 Posts
USA
| | 12/24/2007 12:54 PM |
| Very cool pics.Â
I like the looke of the New Green Dragon. But I am not happy with the color as I can see it. It does look alot like the Greenspawn Razorfiend though.Â
The rest of the figures look awsome.Â
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Pedro
Commander
3922 Posts
Czech Republic
| | 12/24/2007 2:58 PM |
| Glad it is the snake.
The dragon sure looks a bit goofy, I will want to want to wait until i have it in hand to judge it.
The humans pose is cool.
Remember, it is a STARTER. You cant expect to have alternatives (spear dwarf, scythe paladin) in a starter, thats what expert sets are for. | |
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ScruffyRanger
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| | 12/24/2007 4:00 PM |
| Posted By angelfiend on 12/23/2007 9:39 PM
That green dragon is so terrible looking. Horrible. What are they doing? How could they think that it looks good? It looks like a crap. HAHAHAHAHA!
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Thenameless
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| | 12/24/2007 4:09 PM |
| | In the DDM spoilers link, there's a pretty nice looking version of the new one if you scroll down a bit. I don't know why the miniature looks so bad. | |
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rrrrupp
Sneak
54 Posts
| | 12/24/2007 6:13 PM |
| | I dunno, I actually like the green dragon but I'm not a d&d nerd so I have no attachment to how it used to be. The only thing I don't like is his cartoon like face. The detail on his body is very nice. | | | |
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Dordledum
Commander
3193 Posts
Netherlands
| | 12/25/2007 2:37 AM |
| I am happy that they seem to be returning to 2nd edition Yuan-ti style when they all were "Abomination"-types. Never liked the entire halfblood/pureblood crap. The green Dragon is Fugly though (even though the paint-job appears to be superb).
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Mjollnir
Underboss
1437 Posts
Canary Islands - Spain
| | 12/25/2007 2:55 AM |
| Posted By Shottglazz on 12/24/2007 6:46 AM
The dwarves from Night Below with picks were a refreshing change...
You mean svirfneblin? They were no dwarves, but deep (underdark) gnomes.
On the other hand, I
like the sculpt of both the dwarf and the yuan-ti, much more
action-like than the fighter who looks too static to my taste. The
other one seems a bit dull but I'll have to look at it to have a final
opinion and the same happens with the dragon.
Thanks for sharing pics!
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zenthrus
Commander
4836 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 12/25/2007 2:57 AM |
| Disco, disco, snake. I want to be a disco snake.
Sorry, the Yuan-ti's pose struck a strange chord 
Not sure whether to laugh with or at the new green dragon. | |
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MAURIZIO
Sergeant
930 Posts
Lima, Perú
| | 12/25/2007 9:32 AM |
| The face of the Green Dragon is Ugly
Maybe this is the Next Red Dragon
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Thenameless
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| | 12/25/2007 7:16 PM |
| | Nice eyelashes. | |
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Sirohk
Commander
3813 Posts
USA
| | 12/26/2007 4:57 AM |
| Posted By MAURIZIO on 12/25/2007 9:32 AM The face of the Green Dragon is Ugly Maybe this is the Next Red Dragon Just Kidding, Merry Christmas to al the comunity.
That explains the Shrek-like look of the Feral Troll.Â
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Warlord
5638 Posts
| | 12/26/2007 5:19 AM |
| | I'm digging the look of the Human Sellsword, and the new green dragon is kind of growing on me. | |
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10301 Posts
United States
| | 12/26/2007 5:27 AM |
| Posted By Pedro on 12/24/2007 2:58 PM
Remember, it is a STARTER. You cant expect to have alternatives (spear dwarf, scythe paladin) in a starter, thats what expert sets are for. Good point. So, here's to hoping they make a dwarf with a spear in a non-starter box someday soon.
Dave
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 12/27/2007 8:09 AM |
| The d20 looks good.  | | | |
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Shottglazz
Sergeant
970 Posts
Quinte West, Ontario, Canada
| | 12/27/2007 2:28 PM |
| Posted By Mjollnir on 12/25/2007 2:55 AM Posted By Shottglazz on 12/24/2007 6:46 AM
The dwarves from Night Below with picks were a refreshing change...[/quote]
You mean svirfneblin? They were no dwarves, but deep (underdark) gnomes.
On the other hand, I like the sculpt of both the dwarf and the yuan-ti, much more action-like than the fighter who looks too static to my taste. The other one seems a bit dull but I'll have to look at it to have a final opinion and the same happens with the dragon.
Thanks for sharing pics!
My mistake - meant Deathknell - two different dwarves with picks...
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zoroaster100
Sergeant
873 Posts
| | 12/28/2007 11:10 AM |
| | The body of the green dragon actually looks nicely detailed (of course that might just be a master, not production line), but I agree the face on that dragon looks so ridiculous it's unusable. | |
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iluvxtina
Underboss
1497 Posts
Spain
| | 12/28/2007 1:56 PM |
| | We are all angry because its stupid face but things always could go worse: what if the new red dragon has an ugly new face too? Men,this is serious.I do not mind the green one a lot but the red one is much more important.If they change the red dragon,they will change too much. | |
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XAos
Underboss
2384 Posts
London
| | 01/01/2008 6:14 AM |
| Having seen those pics I have a new guess about the color bands on the side of the stat cards.
The orrigional guess, from the spined devil was alignment.
But alignment would suggest that "opposites" be a different colour in the same place on the card.
i.e. "civilised" & "Barbarian" would be 2 different colors in the same position. And thats clearly not the case with the cards in the pics.
From those pics, it's clear that a band in a specific position is always one color. From top to bottem {red, blue, purple, green}
So my new guess is it indicates the various attack modes the card has. e.g;
Blue; With the possible exception of the green dragon (which is obscured) every card has blue. So that's Melee attack.
Green; Yaun Ti & Elf spellcaster - So green is spells.
Purple;Â A special ability that is countered by "Defense".
Red; My guess is there's a bow somewhere on that Human figure. | |
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maijstral
Underboss
2105 Posts
| | 01/01/2008 8:27 AM |
| The colored bands on the sides are definitely faction markers, they have the faction symbols in the small circles at the end of the bar. Each faction of the multifaction has its own bar (remember almost everything will be mulitfaction in DDM 2.0).
This is a guess on my part but,
Civiliization: Blue
Wilderness: Green
Borderlands: Red
Underdark: Purple
Which would make the spined devil Underdark and civilization , the elf in the starter both civilization and wilderness,the human civilization and borderlands.
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greyhaze
Warlord
5841 Posts
| | 01/01/2008 8:39 AM |
| They are not attack types, because attack types are indicated beside the actual attacks with little bows and swords (but I had thought of something like that before). Scroll down for the Spined Devil card and you will see http://www.ddmspoilers.com/ddr_stats.php
Attack Actions
(sword icon) Claw: +11 vs AC;15
(bow icon) Spine Rain: (range 10) +8 vs Defense (Ref); 15 AND Slowed (Speed 2) | |
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