Wraithborne
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 | | 03/05/2008 9:06 PM |
| This past weekend, hordes of Dungeons & Dragons fans got a taste of 4th Edition at D&D Experience. Lucky DDM skirmishers also got to play in the first official miniature tournaments involving the new D&D Miniatures rules. The upcoming expansion, Dungeons of Dread, will be released in about a month, adding 60 new creatures to your collection. Bulette  The land shark is a popular D&D icon that has already been updated for the new edition. The first thing people notice with this Bulette is its size. This 9th-level elite skirmisher is back to the Large size that it had in the 1st edition Monster Manual. This doesn't make your old Bulette from Giants of Legend useless, however, becasue the dire incarnation of this creature is a Huge, 18th-level monster. Skirmishers are a type of monster that should benefit from frequent battlefield movement, and the Bulette is a great example of this. This creature has two powers that involve burrowing. Earth Furrow allows it to burrow under enemies and knock them to the ground. It also has a 2-square burst attack to use when it surfaces, spraying rocks and dirt in every direction. As you would expect, the Bulette has the ability to burrow under opponents in the skirmish game as well. When it surfaces, it can use the Earthcrest attack to shower rocks on all creatures within 2 squares. Every round. Yeah. Dire Wolf  A Dire Wolf is a creature that people want in numbers, and Dungeons of Dread delivers! This set has the 5th-level skirmisher as an uncommon figure, so you won't have any problems putting together a Dire Wolfpack to threaten your players. The Dire Wolf is a pack fighter that benefits when it has other wolf allies around. In the role-playing game, the Dire Wolf has the ability to bring prey down into a prone condition. The miniatures battle game reflects this with the immobilized condition. Once a foe is down, the Dire Wolf packs additional damage onto it. That's it for this week. Be sure to join us next week for more peeks into Dungeons of Dread! | |
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| | 03/05/2008 9:15 PM |
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Wraithborne
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West Virginia
| | 03/05/2008 9:17 PM |
| The dire wolf looked better slightly blurry. I much prefer the UH one. The Bulette looks much better than any of the pics I'd seen thus far, but it's still not enough to make me want a representation for a baby Bulette. Another pointless size change just to be changing something.
I was really hoping we'd get DoD cards tonight, but alas. | |
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Two thousand years later, Earth is reborn...
A strange new world rises from the old: a world of savagery, super science, and sorcery. But one man bursts his bonds to fight for justice! With his companions Ookla the Mok and Princess Ariel, he pits his strength, his courage, and his fabulous Sunsword against the forces of evil.
He is Thundarr, the Barbarian!
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| | 03/05/2008 9:33 PM |
| | Okay, I'm giving WotC 2-for-2 on this one. Both look very nice, at least in pictures anyway. The new Bulette's colours are good, and the Dire Wolf doesn't seem to have any bones sticking out of it (I didn't like the bones sticking out of the old one). I like the statement about the old, huge Bulette not becoming an orphan. | |
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| | 03/05/2008 10:08 PM |
| I'm not real big on the landshark.... not that I liked them in the first place. I do like the new Dire Wolf. Although it does have a certain feline look to it.
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maijstral
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| | 03/05/2008 10:09 PM |
| | I really like both these minis, I pulled a Dire Wolf at XP and can't wait to get my hands on a Bulette. | | | |
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| | 03/05/2008 11:38 PM |
| I suspect a lot of creatures were reduced from huge to large to make them more available as minis. Think about it. We only get huges once if a blue moon, so result would be a lot of creatures perhaps never getting made.
Also, the shift from huge to large doesn't seem as big as a shift from large to medium, and very few creatures conceptually depend on being huge rather than large.
Oh, and both of these minis look great from here. The bulette has a far better colour scheme than its predecessor, and the wolf has a very pleasing sculpt. | |
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| | 03/06/2008 1:07 AM |
| Posted By Alamanther's comeback on 03/05/2008 11:38 PM
Oh, and both of these minis look great from here. The bulette has a far better colour scheme than its predecessor, and the wolf has a very pleasing sculpt.
Indeed. I much prefer the earthy look of the new landshark over the mithril shell of the old one.
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Abennazer
Skirmisher
8 Posts
| | 03/06/2008 1:08 AM |
| ''This creature has two powers that involve burrowing. Earth Furrow allows it to burrow under enemies and knock them to the ground.''
I don't see it on the card...
Edit: Must be on the RPG side only... | |
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yack
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| | 03/06/2008 5:19 AM |
| | Cool a female or baby Bulette and a dire wolf , I can change into abyssal wolves cool. 2 thumbs up. | |
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| | 03/06/2008 6:36 AM |
| | Both are very cool pieces | |
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| | 03/06/2008 6:58 AM |
| Pretty cool, but I still wish the Dire Wolf was a Saber-tooth Cat.
Oh well! | |
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| Posted By Wraithborne on 03/05/2008 9:17 PM
The dire wolf looked better slightly blurry. I much prefer the UH one. The Bulette looks much better than any of the pics I'd seen thus far, but it's still not enough to make me want a representation for a baby Bulette. Another pointless size change just to be changing something.
I was really hoping we'd get DoD cards tonight, but alas.
To be fair, given the size of the new large bases and the overhang, this Bulette probably isn't much smaller physically than the old one.
And a Large Bulette (maybe Dungeonbred?) would be a frightening encounter. Smaller and more mobile, maybe faster...think Ghost and the Darkness.
Personally, whil I don't want to upgrade to 4th, the size change seems a positive thing. Large was such a goofy category in terms of scale...I'd rather see Large figs be large, and huge and bigger figs a rarity...
Both get a big thumbs up from me.
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lingster
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| | 03/06/2008 8:44 AM |
| | I like the new bulette. I'd love to try three in a team... would be quite fun... | |
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| | 03/06/2008 9:35 AM |
| Bulette is pure awesome sauce. I'm liking it a lot.
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| | 03/06/2008 12:53 PM |
| 1 - i like the dire wolf but do we need another wolf?
2 - i think the bulette is kinda silly looking but hey what can ya do | |
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| | 03/06/2008 1:19 PM |
| love the baby bullete sculpt and stats are impressive...
Wolf sculpt is great... But it's another wolf... And the stats don't really do a lot for me. Solid but only ok. | |
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| | 03/06/2008 1:28 PM |
| | I like the bulette as a juvenile specimen - the Dire Wolf is a nice sculpt, but I agree, why another one so soon? | |
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Oryan77
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| | 03/06/2008 1:48 PM |
| I understand this set is
the Rehash of Dread set, but man, throw us veteran collectors a
bone. There's still classic monsters that we don't have that could be
very good for a first time set. Three Dire Wolves and not a single Rust
Monster?
The dire wolf looks like
he's taking a crap. When I needed 12 Dire Wolves, my only option was to
spend a fortune for GOL dire wolves. Then right after I finally ran the
encounter in my campaign, they release the cooler looking Unhallowed
version. I could have saved myself about $100 bucks. Now we get a third
Dire Wolf and this fella is marking his territory.
The Bullete looks great...it's not something I wish I had, but it's a nice looking mini to find in a booster.
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| | 03/06/2008 1:58 PM |
| Bit of a silly question, but is the Dire Wolf a large mini? I think I may be mixing up Dire Wolves and Whargs in my head.... although I've always felt them to be the same.
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PaSquall
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1395 Posts
| | 03/06/2008 2:12 PM |
| Cool, another bulette. My 3 GoL ones will get new friends. I'm quite happy on this one.
Dire wolf... OK but as it has been said : so soon ? I'd prefer a smaller one, like the Harbinger version. Not that it matters that much anyway, I have a dozen DK wolves... | |
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Adelaide, Australia
| | 03/06/2008 2:13 PM |
| I think they're both nice looking minis but I'm still not that thrilled about having them in the set. A Dire Wolf was released only a few sets ago in Unhallowed. While it is nice to have a different sculpt I would have preferred to see a Bearded Devil or something like that in the slot instead.
As for the Bulette, I'm not happy with the size change. I can understand some of the reasons for it, but I still think it was fine as a Huge mini.
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5638 Posts
| | 03/06/2008 2:27 PM |
| Three Dire Wolves and not a single Rust Monster?
Because WotC knows that dire wolves rock and rust monsters are pretty dumb.
The dire wolf looks like he's taking a crap.
I don't know what kind of dogs you've seen, but I've never seen a dog take a crap like that. Complaining just to complain?
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5841 Posts
| | 03/06/2008 2:44 PM |
| Posted By Cthulhufnord on 03/06/2008 1:58 PM
Bit of a silly question, but is the Dire Wolf a large mini? I think I may be mixing up Dire Wolves and Whargs in my head.... although I've always felt them to be the same.
Worgs are medium. Dire Wolves are large. Unless it's LotR in which case the Wargs are definately large. | |
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| | 03/06/2008 5:41 PM |
| Posted By Username on 03/06/2008 2:27 PM Three Dire Wolves and not a single Rust Monster? Because WotC knows that dire wolves rock and rust monsters are pretty dumb. The dire wolf looks like he's taking a crap. I don't know what kind of dogs you've seen, but I've never seen a dog take a crap like that. Complaining just to complain? ;)
Rust monsters dumb? All encounters have to be the same? Must fight orcs, goblins, dire wolves, and dragon type monsters. Can't ever have a fight with a creature the scares the poor melee warriors.
Wizards and archers don't have too much trouble with rust monsters.
From what I have heard about reviews for 4e at D&DXP, one of the complaints is that there isn't enough variety.
It isn't the rust monster that's dumb, it's the players who don't know how to handle them.
With D&D, it's much easier for a DM to give out too much treasure than to take it back. If the party loses some key weapons or armor, it isn't that hard to give them stuff later to compensate if the rust monster(s) cause too many problems.
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xuthal
Sergeant
649 Posts
Boulder, CO
| | 03/06/2008 6:37 PM |
| I would welcome a rust monster. I like both of these sculpts, but I have no use for the minis. My GOL Bulette works just fine and I've got 2 GOL Dire Wolves and a dozen of the vampiric variety from UH. I really wish that they would have filled these slots with minis of monsters we haven't seen yet...
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| | 03/06/2008 7:39 PM |
| | Since we're at it, I'd like a Rust Monster as well. Even though they are rehashes, at least these two look quite nice. | |
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Wraithborne
Commander
3546 Posts
West Virginia
| | 03/06/2008 8:29 PM |
| Maybe if we all start talking about how lame things like rust monsters and bearded devils are, they'll make them.
Giving us what we want has oftimes seemed to conflict with the design philosophy. | |
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A strange new world rises from the old: a world of savagery, super science, and sorcery. But one man bursts his bonds to fight for justice! With his companions Ookla the Mok and Princess Ariel, he pits his strength, his courage, and his fabulous Sunsword against the forces of evil.
He is Thundarr, the Barbarian!
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Oryan77
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955 Posts
| | 03/06/2008 9:28 PM |
| Posted By Wraithborne on 03/06/2008 8:29 PM
Maybe if we all start talking about how lame things like rust monsters and bearded devils are, they'll make them.
I like the way you think! You are much smarter than those dumb Rust Monsters!
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Temperance
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| | 03/06/2008 9:51 PM |
| | I like rust monsters and bearded devils. | |
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| | 03/07/2008 12:08 AM |
| Posted By Temperance on 03/06/2008 9:51 PM
I like rust monsters and bearded devils.
Good to hear from an insider. | |
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Denmark
| | 03/07/2008 12:47 AM |
| Posted By Wraithborne on 03/06/2008 8:29 PM
Maybe if we all start talking about how lame things like rust monsters and bearded devils are, they'll make them.
Giving us what we want has oftimes seemed to conflict with the design philosophy.
Every set has a lot of things I don't care for - warforged, dragonspawn, anything that is is poorly painted/sculpted, has very visible seams, etc.. That's why I'm on the singles market.
However, I must note that the last three sets have seen a dramatic increase in minis I want, so I'm not complaining! :)
...And I have faith that we'll eventually see a rust monster and another bearded devil, just like we'll eventually see a cockatrice. | |
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iluvxtina
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1497 Posts
Spain
| | 03/07/2008 12:48 AM |
| | I do not find rust monsters a dumb thing.In fact, I need a rust monster for one of my RPG campaings.But you,re right: if they see we are interested,they will never release it (replacing it with another dire wolf) | |
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5638 Posts
| | 03/07/2008 7:11 AM |
| Oryan - Hmm, you know what? Those pics don't look ANYTHING alike. You're complaining just to complain. And stretching it a bit.
Let me clarify what I mean about rust monsters - the concept is dumb. The past designs for it look dumb. No thanks.
Bearded devils on the other hand....... | |
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| | 03/07/2008 7:26 AM |
| Posted By Temperance on 03/06/2008 9:51 PM
I like rust monsters and bearded devils.
This is fabulous news. Thanks for sharing your opinion.
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Oryan77
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| | 03/07/2008 10:36 AM |
| Posted By Username on 03/07/2008 7:11 AM
Oryan - Hmm, you know what? Those pics don't look ANYTHING alike.
This coming from a guy that thinks the Rust Monster looks dumb. Yeah, I'm really going to value your visual opinion haha.
Posted By Username on 03/07/2008 7:11 AM
Let me clarify what I mean about rust monsters - the concept is dumb. The past designs for it look dumb. No thanks.
The concept is not dumb, the designs look nothing close to dumb. Sounds like you're complaining just to complain.
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Pedro
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3922 Posts
Czech Republic
| | 03/07/2008 10:55 AM |
| | I like'em both, esp. the wolf. | |
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| | 03/07/2008 11:56 AM |
| | we will probably get a rust monster in the huge set it it will proably sell for $50 on the singles market | |
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