Posted By Teflon Jeff on 03/08/2008 9:05 AM

Good post, Grey...

The one thing though, WotC is not designing these minis for the 3.5 customer. If you choose to stay with 3.5, which is fine, just know that you are choosing to be left behind. Complaining that the D&D minis don't fit your 3.5 game is the same as complaining that Horrorclix don't fit your Call of Cthulhu game. It's not what they are designed for, and you are rying to fit a square peg in a rectangular hole. It might look fine most of the time, but it's not the right fit.

Posted By Teflon Jeff on 03/08/2008 9:05 AM

Complaining that the D&D minis don't fit your 3.5 game is the same as complaining that Horrorclix don't fit your Call of Cthulhu game. It's not what they are designed for, and you are rying to fit a square peg in a rectangular hole. It might look fine most of the time, but it's not the right fit.

Posted By greyhaze on 03/08/2008 12:44 PM
This is what I'm talking about.  Even though it's specifically a 4e game, a whole new game, 3.5 ppl are gonna complain... it's just that simple.  It's still D&D and there will still be figures that are awesome for 3.5 edition players (or further back).  Telling people that they're getting left behind repeatedly is part of the problem.  I say let them complain like everyone else, they have that right.  I'm hoping that the designers will keep that in mind when they have a choice between satisfying 1 portion of the gamers or both.

Posted By iluvxtina on 03/08/2008 11:04 AM

(all my old sets become useless for skirmish play)

Posted By Lord_rock on 03/09/2008 12:46 PM
the truth truely is that you are focusing on this rather than enjoying a game (1.0 or 2.0) that you love...

Posted By Lord_rock on 03/09/2008 12:46 PM
the truth truely is that you are focusing on this rather than enjoying a game (1.0 or 2.0) that you love...

Posted By Dordledum on 03/09/2008 9:28 AM
Ok, I understand, fair enough. I have good faith that we will get the stats in time, Night Below hopefully this week or the week after.

D.

Posted By nyjastul69 on 03/09/2008 5:24 PM

Much like the chainmail converts?  I have zero faith in WotC updating all the stat cards.

Posted By Dagaron on 03/09/2008 5:54 PM

The difference with this restatting is WotC has already created a format (Vintage) for the DDM game using all older figures. They also have already annouced a Championship for this format.

They'll restat it all over time.


On topic I agree, I've for the most part stopped reading things in the general forums on this site due to the fact that the community posts here have become so negative.

Posted By iluvxtina on 03/09/2008 9:21 AM
Dear dordledum: Right now,my old minis are useless.Maybe they will release the cards in the future or maybe nor (who knows?).But the fact is that it will pass a long ,long time until this moment.And during this time,the minis are useless in skirmish play

Posted By Username on 03/08/2008 8:23 PM
I'm also really getting tired of all the whining and moaning.

Posted By Dagaron on 03/09/2008 5:54 PM

On topic I agree, I've for the most part stopped reading things in the general forums on this site due to the fact that the community posts here have become so negative.

I've seen plenty of negative comments about minis that I think are great minis and I've never once been annoyed by it & felt the need to "prove" them wrong. I don't understand the mentality behind a person trying to prove they are right and your opinion is wrong. That's as pathetic as a person who whines about a stupid issue. I might be disappointed with an issue & complain about it, but I never feel so strongly that I have to belittle someone else's opinion about it.

So if someone complains about gaming issues it's whining, but if you complain about gaming issues it's not? I didn't realize your complaints are the only valid ones.

In the end, everyone is playing the same thing...D&D. So who gives a crap what edition someone prefers and what minis they like/dislike.

Posted By auggest on 03/10/2008 1:47 PM


Anyone else see some irony here?

Posted By Username on 03/10/2008 1:57 PM
We don't have all the info yet on 4.0 so it doesn't make sense to bash it (whine, complain, etc). Once we get that info, then let the whining and griping begin!

Posted By Username on 03/10/2008 1:57 PM
[try not to get your panties in a knot ;) :P]

Posted By Wraithborne on 03/08/2008 5:10 PM
At the worst, if someone's posting typically bothers you enough to make you irate, most of the folks here have pretty distinct avatars. It's not that hard to just skim past someone's posts.

The only things that really bother me now are people (pointing the finger at WotC here) telling me that I'm not having fun playing D&D 3.5 and the shilling, which is not as bad here as other places.

As for minis, if they redo something for 4e that I like (Ettin, Minotaur, Manticore) I'll say it's good and I'll buy some, but I won't be buying stuff that I think is garbage (Lamia, Eidolon, Angels, Immolith, hideous commons).

The main reason I complain as much as I do has a lot to do with sadness. I *Want* to buy minis by the case and trade like a madman like I have the last few years, but that is just no longer sensible to do when I only want 23/60(DoD1) or 20/60(DoD2) and can get everything I want from a set, including multiples, for ~$100. I keep hoping they'll make me want cases again, but this set makes 3 out of the last 4 that I've gone singles.

Posted By greyhaze on 03/08/2008 12:44 PM

Ok, I'm gonna pick on your post a little here (hope you don't mind).

This is what I'm talking about.  Even though it's specifically a 4e game, a whole new game, 3.5 ppl are gonna complain... it's just that simple.  It's still D&D and there will still be figures that are awesome for 3.5 edition players (or further back).  Telling people that they're getting left behind repeatedly is part of the problem.  I say let them complain like everyone else, they have that right.  I'm hoping that the designers will keep that in mind when they have a choice between satisfying 1 portion of the gamers or both.

Also, it is not like horrorclix vs Cthulhu, it's like Cthulhu vs Cthulhu New.  Some things will be compatable, others won't.

Posted By Oryan77 on 03/10/2008 2:41 PM

Your first ever post that didn't have anything to do with your miniatures business and it's an attempt to make another minis seller look like a bafoon. If your comment actually had merit towards what you quoted then I wouldn't see your alterior motives at all

...I'm just not seeing the irony you're trying to cleverly point out to everyone else.