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zoroaster100
Sergeant
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minatoman38
Underboss
1345 Posts
Minaniuonuma-shi, Japan
| | 04/05/2008 4:57 AM |
| That griffon looks horrible. After seeing that only four rares I want (although Big Red...Dragon that is looks pretty sweet). A lot of uncommons I'll definitely want at least one of. One or two I'd want more than one of. | |
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Wraithborne
Commander
3546 Posts
West Virginia
| | 04/05/2008 7:02 AM |
| I added a couple Unc's I was on the fence about to my wants, but removed several rares...I think the Drow Spiderguard has the least paint of any mini ever released.
Would be interesting to see if actual looks of the minis changed other folks lists as well.
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Two thousand years later, Earth is reborn...
A strange new world rises from the old: a world of savagery, super science, and sorcery. But one man bursts his bonds to fight for justice! With his companions Ookla the Mok and Princess Ariel, he pits his strength, his courage, and his fabulous Sunsword against the forces of evil.
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 04/05/2008 8:16 AM |
| The griffon is a pretty nice sculpt, the paintjob is subpar.
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wicked cool
Underboss
2083 Posts
| | 04/05/2008 8:41 AM |
| | im not liking new griffon and some others bu after seeing the gallery i do like the new hook horror. how many people got large reds with wings raised like the picture? | |
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Salsero
Sneak
91 Posts
México City
| | 04/05/2008 9:00 AM |
| Posted By Wraithborne on 04/05/2008 7:02 AM
...I think the Drow Spiderguard has the least paint of any mini ever released.
I think that award is fiercely protected by the Spider of Lolth...I have one (and seen many more) that is just plain 100% black.
On the set, there are many minis that I like: Ascendant Hellsword, Vampire Vizier, Rakshasa Baron and many more (I'm not THAT strongly attached to 3.5).
Totally agree on the Griffon...way to kill a nice sculpt.
Overall, for me this is an awesome set that will take a noticeable amount of cash from my wallet. | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
5841 Posts
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Username
Warlord
5638 Posts
| | 04/05/2008 9:54 AM |
| | I wonder if they will put a gallery for the starter minis up. | |
Originally posted by Schooly_D
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Heavenstorm
Skirmisher
14 Posts
| | 04/05/2008 10:05 AM |
| Ascendant Hellsword gets my vote as well. I hope the actual piece retains all the intricacies.
(Dwarf Warlord is my other choice)
The griffon kinda reminds me of some chocolate dessert.
The Defiant Rake and Warrior Wight seem to be pointing at the same thing.
I found the Angel of Valor disappointing. It doesn't strike me at all as angelic. I wonder, will they ever redo the classic angel look on future sets?
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AnarionZelle
Underboss
1104 Posts
USA
| | 04/05/2008 11:41 AM |
| Some of these are truly unacceptable = I would be outraged if I drew these in a booster  | |
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Beware of Kobold
Sneak
68 Posts
| | 04/05/2008 11:53 AM |
| | wow this set is teribble. its like stunningly bad. this is the first set where there are fewer than 10 minis from the whole set that I'd ever want. The paint jobs are what really makes it looks bad. half the creatures in the set have only 2 colors on them. I doubt if I will even bother to buy anything from this set | |
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iluvxtina
Underboss
1497 Posts
Spain
| | 04/05/2008 1:24 PM |
| | It is only my opinion but, for me, this is the worst set ever (for both 2.0 rules and sculpt/paintjob).Griffon, magma brute, wyvern and green dragon are simply an incredibly bad sculpt/paintjob combo.Not to mention the new desing of certain creatures (the new troglodyte is...).But I have to say that the lamia and the new silver dragon are awesome. | |
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zoroaster100
Sergeant
873 Posts
| | 04/05/2008 1:54 PM |
| | The paint jobs look really poor on most of this set, below the standard I'd become accustomed to from DDM. Unfortunately I already ordered two cases and they are on their way, so too late to cancel. Some minis look good, but overall there seems to have been a definite drop in quality. I will hope that they look better in person. But if they look as bad as in the pics, I will hold off on ordering cases next time and wait for reviews from people who have seen them in hand before deciding whether to just order singles. | |
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vanrulzz
Underboss
2468 Posts
¯\(°_o)/¯
| | 04/05/2008 2:33 PM |
| | i like the minis, i always like the minis. sure the griffin and magma guy are turds but you cant win em all can you? | | | |
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JodyJ
Warrior
258 Posts
| | 04/05/2008 2:36 PM |
| Distribution remains reliable and I thought the paint jobs were fine given the paint steps economy.
The common/uc/rare distribution was better than most starter sets with only one character race as a common and only a couple character figs in the rare slots.
Things you need large numbers of for encounters were common, things you need few of were rare and things in between were uncommon. | |
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wicked cool
Underboss
2083 Posts
| | 04/05/2008 5:11 PM |
| | i now have a new large green dragon in hand. i will be proud to use him in a rpg encounter | |
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arbados
Underboss
1407 Posts
New York, USA
| | 04/05/2008 9:15 PM |
| I was on the fence about ordering cases this time but did (2). Looking at the gallery makes me wish I hadn't. I am a completist and want every mini. However, I am starting to have significant reservations in continuing to buy cases if future minis look like this. The paint jobs look terrible. There are so many which seem to have 1 or 2 colors and with no shading. Very disappointed. I will probably be getting my cases some time next week so then I will be able to comment first hand. So far...NO GOOD! | |
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Thenameless
Warlord
9043 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 04/05/2008 10:27 PM |
| Posted By minatoman38 on 04/05/2008 4:57 AM That griffon looks horrible.
I thought it looked pretty nice when I first saw it in pictures, but you're right, it's pathetic in person. Way too small. | |
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LCS
Underboss
1867 Posts
| | 04/05/2008 10:43 PM |
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In my opinion, most of the minis look better in hand.
It looks like the gallery pictures were over lit, which lost a lot of real-life shading and details in the process. For example, the centipede actually has a dark grey metallic paint on its upper carapace, even though it looks like unpainted black plastic in the picture.
Ironically, the large scale of the images also emphasis some of the "solid-color" areas a lot more than in real life, and the lighting probably also contributed to making colors look more saturated than they really are. All of the Bugbear Headreaver minis I've seen are more brownish-yellow than bright yellow.
There are a few minis that have bad paint jobs, but that's normal for every set (the lack of paint on the Drow Spiderguard is pretty bad; if you didn't already dislike the new Grick because of the sculpt, the bright blue paint might just do it; the Mind Flayer Scourge has also been holding its breath far too long...)
There are also a couple of noticeable errors in the paint order that slipped through (Dwarf Warlord as a duergar, Drow Spiderguard has a flaming sword instead of a frost sword, etc...), although I'm willing to be forgiving on that point, since they probably had significantly more outside changes that disrupted the process and caused minis to be added or removed from the set as work on 4E progressed.
Overall, I don't think this paint of this set is any better or worse than other recent sets, and I think we'll gradually see some overall improvement a few sets down the road as WotC learns to take better advantage of the "texturing" effects that CAD has allowed them to add to many sculpts. There's actually a lot more sculpted detail on many of the minis than there would have been in past sets.
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vanrulzz
Underboss
2468 Posts
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| | 04/05/2008 10:56 PM |
| | as i have said before the spiderguards sword is frostBURN... it probably is a fire/ice mix that just ended up showing too much flame | | | |
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zoroaster100
Sergeant
873 Posts
| | 04/06/2008 5:59 AM |
| | I was wondering, did WOTC release information about a new paint method or approach? I see two comments on this thread about it (the "paint step economy" and "texturing effects that CAD has allowed them to add". Was this info from a convension seminar, or from the Wizards' website, or somewhere else? | |
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Pedro
Commander
3922 Posts
Czech Republic
| | 04/06/2008 9:28 AM |
| | The Griffon and Drow Spiderguard are disgusting. I hope the gallery is just overlit and that they will look much better in hand. | |
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Sean-Khan
Commander
2714 Posts
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Teflon Jeff
Warlord
7146 Posts
Idaho. Yes, we have Gamers in Idaho.
| | 04/06/2008 7:42 PM |
| Underwhelming online, but some of them are definitely bettr in person.
Completely agree on the Griffon's undersizedness. | |
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gausse
Sergeant
951 Posts
Wisconsin
| | 04/07/2008 10:33 AM |
| This sets is the WORST yet. Can sure tell their attentions were elsewhere (4e?) when they developed this mess.
The truely horrid include Wyvern, Vampire Spawn, Runecarved Eidolon, Orc Raider!, Lamia, Magma Brute, Griffon, Goblin Picador, Grick, Gnoll Marauder, Chillborn, Bralani.
The Orc Raider is the worst! WTH Looks like those 70's D&D toys. And why redo the Wyvern, Griffon and grick with minis that are fugly compared to originals?
The Bulette, Cleric of Pelor, Eye of Flame, Vrock, Shadow Demon, Giant Centipede, Gargoyle and Young Silver Dragon are worth owning, but not much else. The Fen Hydra sculpt is decent, but the paint is so nasty.
Vrock and Eye of Flame are the only minis I am excited about. Oh and the Yuan-Ti Swiftscale from the starter!
The upside is I will be spending almost nothing on this set.
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Pedro
Commander
3922 Posts
Czech Republic
| | 04/12/2008 1:04 PM |
| | The drow is almost not painted at all. It's even worse in person. don't like the Wyvern, magma thing and wimpy griffon. That griifon sucks. | |
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Wraithborne
Commander
3546 Posts
West Virginia
| | 04/12/2008 7:04 PM |
| Posted By gausse on 04/07/2008 10:33 AM This sets is the WORST yet. Can sure tell their attentions were elsewhere (4e?) when they developed this mess.
It's definitely the set I've bought the least of. I spent $96 including shipping and including 5 Yuan-Tis from the starter and 3 Vrocks(want more please!!) and with a couple trades am pretty much done with the set.
The thing I think is really sad is that the set list is awesome for the most part. Just going by the list, I would figure 2-3 cases, but the execution is so poor, there were only 19 minis I even wanted and only 8 of them in multiples. | |
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Two thousand years later, Earth is reborn...
A strange new world rises from the old: a world of savagery, super science, and sorcery. But one man bursts his bonds to fight for justice! With his companions Ookla the Mok and Princess Ariel, he pits his strength, his courage, and his fabulous Sunsword against the forces of evil.
He is Thundarr, the Barbarian!
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Pedro
Commander
3922 Posts
Czech Republic
| | 04/13/2008 2:34 AM |
| True, the paintjob really sucks. Two colours on most of the minis and at the top the drow. I like about 10 minis for paint. There are some cool sculpts, but they are either sucky in colours, or the Griffon is so so small and badly painted.
Plus, have you noticed the Dwarf Shieldmaiden looks like a Warhammer Space Marine? :) | |
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