Pedro Commander
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 Czech Republic
 | | 04/11/2008 3:38 PM |
| Found this:
T3. Redirect targeting Powers that can modify or nullify a target can be used. i.e. Golden Wyvern Initiate’s Golden Wyvern power, which allows an Area or Close attack to ignore one creature; or the Merchant Guard’s Bodyguard special power, which changes the target of an attack. If the new target would not normally be a legal target for that attack, then for steps B1 and B2, the new target is considered to be occupying the same space as the original target. Follow up attacks are considered part of the initial attack, and may not be retargeted.
...from the errata.
I haven't seen it here yet.
is it a cleric, since it's an initiative, or can it be the flying creature? | | 2007 & 2008 Czech Republic Champion 2008 Czech Republic's Player of the Year
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Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
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 Sector 2814
 | | 04/11/2008 3:46 PM |
| Ooh, good catch Pedro.
I wonder if we're gettin a new Wyvern...
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Raland Sergeant
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 | | 04/11/2008 3:55 PM |
| Think there's mention of the Golden Wyvern Initiate in the rule book too.
http://ddmspoilers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1199
Oh it was in the XP document that this was mentioned so makes sense it was incorporated into the errata. There was some insight offered into what the Golden Wyvern Initiate might be in that previous thread. | | Champion of the Kender ckissee - "providing TPK's since 2007" Albert Einstein never once said that if the bees disappeared, "man would have only four years of life left" but the theory is a scary prospect. | |
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 Vrecknidj Warlord
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 United States
 | | 04/11/2008 3:59 PM |
| Posted By Raland on 04/11/2008 3:55 PM Think there's mention of the Golden Wyvern Initiate in the rule book too. Yup.
I've been hoping to find out more about this thing.
Dave
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Knight of Argenis Corim Danex Warlord
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 West Valley City, Utah
 | | 04/11/2008 5:45 PM |
| | I heard an explanation earlier when the fact it was in the rulebook was brought up. I believe one of the designers said it was a PC. The Golden Wyvern Initiate (golden wyvern being a type of initiate not a creature) | | "Look to God and live." Alma 37:47 Vindicated Champ of Hippogriff (Arcadian Hippogriff) and Uncommon Horse | |
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moonglum Skirmisher
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 | | 04/11/2008 6:17 PM |
| I believe I remember reading on enworld that the golden wyvern initiate is something like a wizard feat (it might be a feat for wizards, it might be a power for some wizard paragon path) that in DnD 4.0 lets the wizard exclude a number of squares equal to their wisdom bonus from the area of effect of a spell. So we know that in Against the Giants, there will be a high level wizard figure that has a gnarly area attack or two and get ignore 1 target within it.
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Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
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 Sector 2814
 | | 04/11/2008 7:10 PM |
| Posted By Corim Danex on 04/11/2008 5:45 PM I heard an explanation earlier when the fact it was in the rulebook was brought up. I believe one of the designers said it was a PC. The Golden Wyvern Initiate (golden wyvern being a type of initiate not a creature)
Kind of like te Lion Falcon Monk not being a Lion or a Falcon?
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Knight of the Round Table Thenameless Warlord
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 The Fortress of Solitude
 | | 04/11/2008 9:28 PM |
| | Good find, Pedro, thanks for sharing. I wonder how many sets that WotC has stats for in advance. | | Over 270 successful online DDM trades. | |
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E Thug of the Round Table Wolfgang Warlord
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 Milton, Ontario Canada
 | | 04/12/2008 10:22 AM |
| | way to go pedro and thanks | | Proud member since March 26 2005 Champion of the SIVAK DRACONIAN Completed trades: (94) Bad traders(2) DJchuckles, sardal Called shots:Sivak Draconian in DD Trade References Email Me | |
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Pedro Commander
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 Czech Republic
 | | 04/12/2008 11:09 AM |
| Posted By moonglum on 04/11/2008 6:17 PM I believe I remember reading on enworld that the golden wyvern initiate is something like a wizard feat (it might be a feat for wizards, it might be a power for some wizard paragon path) that in DnD 4.0 lets the wizard exclude a number of squares equal to their wisdom bonus from the area of effect of a spell. So we know that in Against the Giants, there will be a high level wizard figure that has a gnarly area attack or two and get ignore 1 target within it.
I' looking forward to something like this. He should have golden clothing and be civilized. | | 2007 & 2008 Czech Republic Champion 2008 Czech Republic's Player of the Year
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Knight of Argenis Corim Danex Warlord
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 West Valley City, Utah
 | | 04/12/2008 5:08 PM |
| Posted By Teflon Jeff on 04/11/2008 7:10 PM Posted By Corim Danex on 04/11/2008 5:45 PM I heard an explanation earlier when the fact it was in the rulebook was brought up. I believe one of the designers said it was a PC. The Golden Wyvern Initiate (golden wyvern being a type of initiate not a creature) Kind of like te Lion Falcon Monk not being a Lion or a Falcon?
Good example. That would have been funny having a monk that was a lion or a falcon. Or a combo. Well, a dud rare, but funny. | | "Look to God and live." Alma 37:47 Vindicated Champ of Hippogriff (Arcadian Hippogriff) and Uncommon Horse | |
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Pedro Commander
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 Czech Republic
 | | 04/13/2008 2:39 AM |
| Posted By moonglum on 04/11/2008 6:17 PM I believe I remember reading on enworld that the golden wyvern initiate is something like a wizard feat (it might be a feat for wizards, it might be a power for some wizard paragon path) that in DnD 4.0 lets the wizard exclude a number of squares equal to their wisdom bonus from the area of effect of a spell. So we know that in Against the Giants, there will be a high level wizard figure that has a gnarly area attack or two and get ignore 1 target within it.
He's an initiate, so he should be low-level. | | 2007 & 2008 Czech Republic Champion 2008 Czech Republic's Player of the Year
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Man of Renown Wraithborne Warlord
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 The Red Light District
 | | 04/13/2008 8:06 AM |
| Posted By Corim Danex on 04/12/2008 5:08 PM Posted By Teflon Jeff on 04/11/2008 7:10 PM Posted By Corim Danex on 04/11/2008 5:45 PM I heard an explanation earlier when the fact it was in the rulebook was brought up. I believe one of the designers said it was a PC. The Golden Wyvern Initiate (golden wyvern being a type of initiate not a creature) Kind of like te Lion Falcon Monk not being a Lion or a Falcon? Good example. That would have been funny having a monk that was a lion or a falcon. Or a combo. Well, a dud rare, but funny.
So it wouldn't have changed his status much then. | | Eye dun no why youse guys think im not relly a person im jimgang from canada but im moving to cali as soon as i get a master card -Jimgang So, you stand at your grave, Has your soul yet been taken away? So you can't read what's engraved, Is this Heaven or merely Decay? Was there a light, enchantingly bright, A Question, just how did it end? Just let me sift through your calm remains, And tear you away from your skin. -Sumerias Fain. | |
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iluvxtina Underboss
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 Spain
 | | 04/13/2008 8:43 AM |
| | Oh...It would be amazing for me if this piece will be a black woman fighter in a dragon full plate armor (like the red samurai,s one but much cooler) and wielding a great dragon double edged halberd.Only dreaming | | LOVE THIS GIRL | |
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Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
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 Sector 2814
 | | 04/13/2008 1:06 PM |
| Posted By iluvxtina on 04/13/2008 8:43 AM Oh...It would be amazing for me if this piece will be a black woman fighter in a dragon full plate armor (like the red samurai,s one but much cooler) and wielding a great dragon double edged halberd.Only dreaming
That wold be pretty cool, if it was a paladin initiate. | | Official Delegate, Wizards of the Coast Icons Called Shot: Gargantuan Prismatic Dragon "Rejoice, for bad things are about to happen." | |
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Pedro Commander
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 Czech Republic
 | | 04/13/2008 4:19 PM |
| Posted By Teflon Jeff on 04/13/2008 1:06 PM Posted By iluvxtina on 04/13/2008 8:43 AM Oh...It would be amazing for me if this piece will be a black woman fighter in a dragon full plate armor (like the red samurai,s one but much cooler) and wielding a great dragon double edged halberd.Only dreaming That wold be pretty cool, if it was a paladin initiate. Yeah, why did we get that wimpy woman instead of this?
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 Bert the Troll Commander
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 Adelaide
 | | 04/13/2008 4:55 PM |
| | Good find | | "Mutton yesterday, mutton today, and blimey, if it don't look like mutton again tomorrer." Bert the Troll - The Hobbit Semi-Secret sig business: "In the age of the internet attaching a famous name to your personal opinion to give more weight to it is a very valid strategy." - Benjamin Franklin Champion of Epic Lolth, Orcus, & Demogorgon and bring us Asmodeus! | |
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Dordledum Commander
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 Netherlands
 | | 04/15/2008 4:33 AM |
| old news, but still interested in what it is
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