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Sneak
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Wraithborne
Commander
3546 Posts
West Virginia
| | 05/05/2008 4:36 PM |
| Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a brand new king of base overhang....bleh.
Not liking either of the 3 that are in the 1st pic.....the Yuan-Ti Anathema looks terrible and the weird blue lizard/dog with the strapless armor just looks silly.
Pretty sure the large to the left of the Yuan-Ti is the Fire Giant Raider we heard about. Looks like possibly another Dragon to the right of the Huge White, probably one of the new ones. | |
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Two thousand years later, Earth is reborn...
A strange new world rises from the old: a world of savagery, super science, and sorcery. But one man bursts his bonds to fight for justice! With his companions Ookla the Mok and Princess Ariel, he pits his strength, his courage, and his fabulous Sunsword against the forces of evil.
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Teflon Jeff
Warlord
7146 Posts
Idaho. Yes, we have Gamers in Idaho.
| | 05/05/2008 4:40 PM |
| wow, yeah, that is a lot of overhang. That's like 20 game feet of overhang.
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Wraithborne
Commander
3546 Posts
West Virginia
| | 05/05/2008 5:23 PM |
| So, how do we go from this:
To that thing? | |
The year: 1994. From out of space comes a runaway planet, hurtling between the Earth and the Moon, unleashing cosmic destruction! Man's civilization is cast in ruin!
Two thousand years later, Earth is reborn...
A strange new world rises from the old: a world of savagery, super science, and sorcery. But one man bursts his bonds to fight for justice! With his companions Ookla the Mok and Princess Ariel, he pits his strength, his courage, and his fabulous Sunsword against the forces of evil.
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stephengroy
Underboss
1362 Posts
Tempe AZ Beeyotch
| | 05/05/2008 5:28 PM |
| Posted By Wraithborne on 05/05/2008 5:23 PM So, how do we go from this: To that thing?
Ooh, snakety bumcakes!
I'd hit her!
Then again, I heard she's a cold blooded woman
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Turboman
Warrior
212 Posts
| | 05/05/2008 5:33 PM |
| | I think that is an Age of Worms creature or some Aspect of Set. Kind of creepy. | |
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MarioCleanstuff
Warrior
323 Posts
San Diego, CA
| | 05/05/2008 5:33 PM |
| | We go from the old Anathema to the new one by deciding that there should be one head and that the body should be a mass of snakes. Think of the old one as a fraction, and the new one as its reciprocal! | |
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Corim Danex
Warlord
6621 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 05/05/2008 5:42 PM |
| Thanks for the post. Holy base overhang, Batman! Talk about a terrible introduction to the set. That base overhang is so beyond the pale that it has solidified my decision to not buy cases again. Well done WotC, completely ignoring people complaining of base overhang for the past 1.5 years. This set was definitely made after the uproar.
Have fun with your entire D&D line. With each passing release of something you further distance yourself from a game I want to play. | |
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Warlord
5637 Posts
| | 05/05/2008 5:42 PM |
| The dog thing is a Worg. Makes me sad....
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Turboman
Warrior
212 Posts
| | 05/05/2008 5:43 PM |
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Username
Warlord
5637 Posts
| | 05/05/2008 5:43 PM |
| | All the others look pretty cool. I wish the second pic was a bit more clear. | |
Originally posted by Schooly_D
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bshugg
Underboss
1820 Posts
| | 05/05/2008 5:51 PM |
| the huge battle worg: Looks cool to me. Somewhat narrow use but will definatly feature somewhere in my future campaigns.
White dragon: Ackward pose, still its a mssing dragon slot and fairly cool looking. Will always take another huge dragon of any flavor.
Yaun-ti snake god: I'm not crazy about yaun-ti but this one looks pretty neat. Not a lot of cross use. Maybe as something from Age of Worms. Least favorite of the 3 but still a good sculpt.
Check out the Earth Elamental or Rock titan thingy on the side of the box. | |
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Bert the Troll
Commander
3858 Posts
Adelaide
| | 05/05/2008 5:55 PM |
| The blue thing is a worg? Hmmm. The huge white looks the same size as icing death.
The Yaunti love contiues.
Thanks lots for posting the pictures. Very very cool to see.
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MarioCleanstuff
Warrior
323 Posts
San Diego, CA
| | 05/05/2008 6:03 PM |
| | The new Worg looks surprisingly like a Guulvorg ( http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/MM5_Gallery/106326.jpg ) from the Monster Manual V, right down to the size category. It also looks like a rat / dragon / wolf thing. I liked when Worgs looked like regular wolves, myself. This is the first reconcepting to truly disappoint me. | |
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Wraithborne
Commander
3546 Posts
West Virginia
| | 05/05/2008 6:07 PM |
| Posted By MarioCleanstuff on 05/05/2008 5:33 PM
We go from the old Anathema to the new one by deciding that there should be one head and that the body should be a mass of snakes. Think of the old one as a fraction, and the new one as its reciprocal!
Heh, I think of it as the old one looked nifty and the new one looks goofy 
That's a Worg....I like it even less now. | |
The year: 1994. From out of space comes a runaway planet, hurtling between the Earth and the Moon, unleashing cosmic destruction! Man's civilization is cast in ruin!
Two thousand years later, Earth is reborn...
A strange new world rises from the old: a world of savagery, super science, and sorcery. But one man bursts his bonds to fight for justice! With his companions Ookla the Mok and Princess Ariel, he pits his strength, his courage, and his fabulous Sunsword against the forces of evil.
He is Thundarr, the Barbarian!
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wicked cool
Underboss
2083 Posts
| | 05/05/2008 6:16 PM |
| | nice scoop vfults!!!!. the rest are to busy complaining but kudos for getting these pics. im really curious about the mediums/larges | |
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stephengroy
Underboss
1362 Posts
Tempe AZ Beeyotch
| | 05/05/2008 6:27 PM |
| | That is not a worg, it's a Bluespawn Armortard | |
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tendar
Skirmisher
24 Posts
Phoenix AZ USA
| | 05/05/2008 6:34 PM |
| | Think they look pretty good. Dont know what you people expect for $22 with 1 hugh and 7 other figs. You want to pay more then Im sure they could come out with even nicer pieces but for the price and coming from CHINA I dont think they are that bad. The over hang on the dragon is a little much but does make it look cooler. | | | |
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Wolfgang
Commander
3002 Posts
Milton, Ontario Canada
| | 05/05/2008 6:35 PM |
| | bleh i just hope there are lots that people want because i am getting 2 cases to trade so it better be good | |
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Username
Warlord
5637 Posts
| | 05/05/2008 7:07 PM |
| Posted By MarioCleanstuff on 05/05/2008 6:03 PM
The new Worg looks surprisingly like a Guulvorg ( http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/MM5_Gallery/106326.jpg ) from the Monster Manual V, right down to the size category. It also looks like a rat / dragon / wolf thing. I liked when Worgs looked like regular wolves, myself. This is the first reconcepting to truly disappoint me.
You are correct.
from ENWorld: Originally Posted by WotC_Logan
Before Lurkalot loses money betting on worgs, I’ll confirm that the
picture is a guulvorg (a Huge variant of the worg), and that the worg
looks different from that. Wonder why the above pic I posted was called a worg on the Daily Art
page (going by scale, if the helmet in the pic is from a medium
creature, that worg would be large)? | |
Originally posted by Schooly_D
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AnarionZelle
Underboss
1101 Posts
USA
| | 05/05/2008 7:25 PM |
| | Is that a medium Wriath next to what some are calling the Huge Angel (it's the third mini from the left on the blurry pic)? | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
5841 Posts
| | 05/05/2008 8:07 PM |
| Posted By stephengroy on 05/05/2008 6:27 PM
That is not a worg, it's a Bluespawn Armortard LOL
Yeh, nice find! | |
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MarioCleanstuff
Warrior
323 Posts
San Diego, CA
| | 05/05/2008 8:15 PM |
| Posted By AnarionZelle on 05/05/2008 7:25 PM
Is that a medium Wriath next to what some are calling the Huge Angel (it's the third mini from the left on the blurry pic)?
What some are calling the Huge Angel looks to be a Large to me. | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
5841 Posts
| | 05/05/2008 8:19 PM |
| Yeh, I'm in the large angel boat.
Mediums (guesses):
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Dragonborn
Tiefling
Cockatrice
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Corim Danex
Warlord
6621 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 05/05/2008 9:33 PM |
| | That's not just base overhang on the huge white--its left wing could fit across an entire huge mini, like it was trying to put its arm (wing) around it--like it's introducing a buddy. | |
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Nyarlathotep333
Warrior
282 Posts
Alaska
| | 05/05/2008 10:19 PM |
| Yeah, admittedly I am a little saddened by the overhang of the White Dragon. Still though, it is a Huge White...
I'm a little more excted by the Yuan-Ti as they can double for weird Yig-related monsters in Cthulhu. Not real sure I care much for the Big Blue Drake/Dragon/Worg/Whatever it is.
Still though, I like the Fire Giant and blazing skeleton I've seen so far and it does look like I'll finally get the chance to own a Huge Red Dragon. Here's to hoping the sculpt for the Huge Red is as good as the Sculpt for the Large Silver from DoD2 is.
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Corim Danex
Warlord
6621 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 05/05/2008 11:41 PM |
| You liked the sculpt for the Large Sliver? I might have if the overhang hadn't knocked over any mini trying to stand next to it.
Sorry to be a downer, but the recent trends are just killing me (well, my interest). | |
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Cthulhufnord
Warlord
10802 Posts
Umass Amherst Baby!
| | 05/05/2008 11:46 PM |
| Posted By Nyarlathotep333 on 05/05/2008 10:19 PM
Yeah, admittedly I am a little saddened by the overhang of the White Dragon. Still though, it is a Huge White...
I'm a little more excted by the Yuan-Ti as they can double for weird Yig-related monsters in Cthulhu. Not real sure I care much for the Big Blue Drake/Dragon/Worg/Whatever it is.
Still though, I like the Fire Giant and blazing skeleton I've seen so far and it does look like I'll finally get the chance to own a Huge Red Dragon. Here's to hoping the sculpt for the Huge Red is as good as the Sculpt for the Large Silver from DoD2 is.
Yeah, that's pretty much my feelings on the Yuan-Ti figure. I'll be wanting one as a Yig mini.
The blue thing made me think of Skeletor's battle cat critter.
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Snu
Skirmisher
30 Posts
| | 05/05/2008 11:46 PM |
| Posted By greyhaze on 05/05/2008 8:19 PM
Yeh, I'm in the large angel boat.
Mediums (guesses):
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Cockatrice
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iluvxtina
Underboss
1497 Posts
Spain
| | 05/06/2008 12:02 AM |
| Yuan ti thing: ridiculous sculpt.
Blue thing: it is a worg?Really?Oh,men that hurts.
Huge white: very good sculpt.Remembers icingdeath.Overhanged but it does not matter to me.Oh...And I do not need more white dragons.
I suspect in the near future more people leaving the game because new horrible sets | |
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Arandae
Sergeant
699 Posts
UK
| | 05/06/2008 1:21 AM |
| Posted By tendar on 05/05/2008 6:34 PM
Think they look pretty good. Dont know what you people expect for $22 with 1 hugh and 7 other figs. You want to pay more then Im sure they could come out with even nicer pieces but for the price and coming from CHINA I dont think they are that bad. The over hang on the dragon is a little much but does make it look cooler.
I don't think the issues being raised here are whether (in some sense) the minis are worth the price - it's more a matter of whether people actually want them.
We can argue about whether the pose of the white dragon looks 'cool' or not, but two thirds of the market for these minis is RPG - and a miniature with that much overhang is a real pain to try to use. It might not fit on the map, and it makes it impossible to get any other miniatures anywhere near it. Because of the overhang, I won't be buying one - why waste money on something I'll never use?
I think Corim's point is the important one - their customers have been saying repeatedly that overhang is a problem, but WotC keep coming out with more 'undesirable' overhang minis, and the overhang is becoming ever more absurd. WotC could well find that they bring out a set that looks 'cool', but which sits on the shelves because their market doesn't want minis that won't be used.
I'm not excited about any of these huges. The huge creatures I want to use in RPG, and for which I still want minis, are the Aboleth, the Nalfeshnee, elementals and a Spider-Eater. I think there'll be slim pickings in this huge selection for me. | |
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Alamanther's comeback
Sneak
168 Posts
Denmark
| | 05/06/2008 1:38 AM |
| Posted By greyhaze on 05/05/2008 8:19 PM
Mediums (guesses):
Wraith
Cockatrice
I hope that you are right.
I generally like what I see of the white dragon and the snake-that-walks/yuan-ti anathema. The white dragon does have some serious overhang issues, but I can forgive those if sculpt and paint job are good (and the things isn't riddled with conspicuous seams). I think I'll pass on the worg. I hope it's an uncommon.
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Tooninki
Warrior
272 Posts
Finland
| | 05/06/2008 1:57 AM |
| | Hmm, the reddish thing in the second pic far right (not the new huge red dragon) looks like Efreeti! (Huge!?) | |
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yack
Commander
3164 Posts
Gatineau Canada
| | 05/06/2008 4:59 AM |
| I love the huge white Dragon.... give me 2
Blue thing no idea what it is and please do not be uncommon. (don't need more then one)
Yuan-ti no idea what it is, one is enough. | |
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Alamanther's comeback
Sneak
168 Posts
Denmark
| | 05/06/2008 5:29 AM |
| Posted By yack on 05/06/2008 4:59 AM
Blue thing no idea what it is and please do not be uncommon. (don't need more then one)
Judging by the complexity of the paint job, I'd say it's an uncommon. I also hope it's an uncommon, as I would rather have a rare slot taken up by, say, and aboleth, remorhaz, or nalfeshnee (assuming they're still huge). In any event, I hope the white dragon rather than the worg is indicative of the quality of the huge rares.
Not liking the seam on the anathema's right hand, btw. - I think they could have worked it into the sculpt better to make it less visible.
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Username
Warlord
5637 Posts
| | 05/06/2008 5:49 AM |
| Guulvorg from MM5:
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Originally posted by Schooly_D
Username - he deals in minis
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berus316
Sergeant
632 Posts
Markham, Ontario Canada
| | 05/06/2008 5:59 AM |
| Like the White Dragon, could care less about the overhang.
The Yuan-ti is different, I like it more than the original drawing that's for sure...
Loving the Cockatrice, and the giants... way cool.
Not so big on the Bluespawn Armourtard (Canadian eh).
Don't really like the Angel, but he does look pretty cool.
The Fire Giant is awesome.
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10288 Posts
United States
| | 05/06/2008 6:16 AM |
| I am really looking forward to the pre-release for this set. I hope that there isn't any particular Huge that totally dominates.
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bshugg
Underboss
1820 Posts
| | 05/06/2008 7:05 AM |
| | That is definatly 100% a Guulvorg from the picture. I'm guessing calling it a worg was a mistake on the main page, or else they are including Guulvorgs as some sort of bad ass dire worg. | |
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Dordledum
Commander
3188 Posts
Netherlands
| | 05/06/2008 7:13 AM |
| yuck on the Guulvorg and the Yuan-Ti. I love the huge white, but as usual it comes out a couple of months too late (fought 2 of em in our campaign yesterday evening).
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