subliminalmf
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Maine
 | | 05/19/2008 9:28 PM |
| Expect the packs to be slightly larger...by the spoiler pictures it looks like they added the upward angle to a WotDQ box from the DuDr boxes....which should add the extra room needed for the over hang on some of the minis.
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Cthulhufnord
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| | 05/19/2008 9:58 PM |
| The cyclone with the right paint job and maybe some green stuff would make a nice flying polyop.
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LCS
Underboss
1887 Posts
| | 05/19/2008 11:54 PM |
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I thought Maxminis spoiler policy had changed since the greenback days.
The posting of unreleased "spoiler/leaked" photos and stats are allowed on Maxminis, per the rules that Host posted in the stickied thread in the Forums section.
If WotC requests that the pictures be removed, they will be removed (at least temporarily) while we get confirmation from Host about how he wants to handle the specific situation.
If you would like to discuss or have questions about spoiler/leak policy at Maxminis, please start a thread in the Forums section for that purpose.
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yack
Commander
3197 Posts
Gatineau Canada
| | 05/20/2008 5:01 AM |
| Huge Fire giant - not a huge wish for me but will keep one
Huge CC - it's ok I'll keep one
Huge White - love it!
Huge Red - meh I have 2 of the ones would of sooner got a blue/green or black
Huge Cyclone - might pass as a huge air
Huge Yuan-ti - ok for one
Huge Umber hulk - cool I'll take one.
Other then the White I'm not very excited for theses choices. I would of sooner likes a demonape, huge plant and some elementals | |
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5663 Posts
| | 05/20/2008 5:27 AM |
| Huge Fire giant - not a huge wish for me but will keep one
I beleive the fire giant is not huge. The fire titan is huge, but not the fire giant raider. | |
Originally posted by Schooly_D
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freedeath
Sneak
89 Posts
Great White North
| | 05/20/2008 5:38 AM |
| Thunderblast Cyclone- Uh...No thanks. If it had been large, it at least could've proxied somewhat for a Phaerimm, but it's just a waste of a slot as is.
Terrible Mini. This will be the UC (it better not be a rare) that we get massive amounts of in boosters & cases. It actually makes the Blue Armourtard look desirable.
Hopefully, it didn't make it to the set, but having a set number (9/60) probably means it did. Did we really need this? It might proxy for a Huge Air Elemental (like yack said) if it's painted "airish" colours.
I have a new 'worst. mini. ever.' I sometimes question the design team's logic.
Diff'rent Strokes for different folks, I guess. "What you talkin' 'bout, WotC?" | |
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Anaxagoras
Warrior
307 Posts
| | 05/20/2008 9:05 AM |
| Ummmnnnnn.....The Huge Umber Hulk might be because there is a huge umber hulk in the current MM. Also the Carrion Crawler can easily be advanced to Huge.Â
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Anaxagoras
Warrior
307 Posts
| | 05/20/2008 9:08 AM |
| Posted By Wraithborne on 05/19/2008 6:46 PM
Thanks for posting Stephen. We needed some spoilers since WotC is rationing them out like Platinum Pieces.
Fire Giant Raider- looks nice. The sculpt helps to ease some of my fears that were brought on by the Titans.
Enormous Carrion Crawler- Not one of my first choices for sure, but I'll take one nonetheless.
Shadow Hulk- Remains to be seen if the name change will result in a paint change as well. Again, not something
I would've chosen for a huge slot, but I'll take one.
Yuan-Ti Anathema- Didn't like the preview and nothing's changed.
Thunderblast Cyclone- Uh...No thanks. If it had been large, it at least could've proxied somewhat for a Phaerimm, but it's
just a waste of a slot as is.
Elder White Dragon- I'm not one to complain about overhang, but this is just silly. You could put a Treant between it's base
and the wing would overhang it as well.
Elder Red Dragon- This looks like a reasonable overhang to me, though the angle could be hiding a bit. I agree with Michael
that the pose looks more like one for a good dragon, but ultimately I'll have to see the paint before deciding if I'll pick one
up or continue my futile quest to get one from GoL.
So...in the same post you complain about the overhang on the white-which is in a very aggressive pose....and then complain the the Huge Red is in too placid a pose-which is one of the few ways to get no overhang.....
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Shottglazz
Underboss
1031 Posts
Quinte West, Ontario, Canada
| | 05/20/2008 9:27 AM |
| | I like the Fire Giant Raider (if it's large, not huge)...the Carrion Crawler will prob get a paintjob and be a remorhaz...won't be buying any of the others... | |
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Umass Amherst Baby!
| | 05/20/2008 9:32 AM |
| Minus the tentacles it makes a decent proxy for a huge centipede.
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Mjollnir
Underboss
1454 Posts
Canary Islands - Spain
| | 05/20/2008 10:16 AM |
| | Thanks for the pics. Hope the Fire Giant is an Uncommon! | |
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berus316
Sergeant
646 Posts
Markham, Ontario Canada
| | 05/20/2008 11:06 AM |
| Wow, this set is in free fall right now... There are already three 0/10 miniatures in this set, which already ties the record for the most in a set.
The dragons are good, though the red is completely unneeded.
The Huge Umberhulk is kinda cool.
I was hoping for a better Fire Giant but we'll see with the paint job.
You know, in a set called Against the Giants I was hoping for more.
Who in the Blue Blazes would ever want a giant cyclone thingee or a giant carrion crawler? Like are we lacking in other interesting Huges to make?
Of all the Huges so far, only the Elder White is a good thing to me.
Not happy at all.
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Pedro
Commander
3922 Posts
Czech Republic
| | 05/20/2008 11:54 AM |
| Cool RD.
I don't care about the overhang.
I like the cyclone thingy. And also the carrion crawler. Nifty. Can't wait for coloured pics. | |
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10357 Posts
United States
| | 05/20/2008 12:47 PM |
| Posted By LCS on 05/19/2008 11:54 PM
If WotC requests that the pictures be removed, they will be removed (at least temporarily) while we get confirmation from Host about how he wants to handle the specific situation.
Thanks LCS. That's pretty much what I expected would be the case.
Everyone else: the whole reason I simply made a warning post and didn't do anything silly like lock the thread was because I wanted to let folks know that the situation described by LCS might come into play, but that as far as I knew, there wasn't yet any request to take down the images.
I like spoilers about as much as everyone else, but I like having the respect of WotC even more.
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angelfiend
Sneak
85 Posts
| | 05/20/2008 1:15 PM |
| | I'm not excited in any way about most of the huges. Why another huge Red? There are so many other dragons that could use a huge. Their choices for huges are absurd. So disappointed right now. I'm getting closer and closer to throwing in the towel. | |
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| | 05/20/2008 1:18 PM |
| Posted By angelfiend on 05/20/2008 1:15 PM
I'm not excited in any way about most of the huges. Why another huge Red? There are so many other dragons that could use a huge. Their choices for huges are absurd. So disappointed right now. I'm getting closer and closer to throwing in the towel.
You have to remember, they're trying to get new players in as well, and a majority of new players don't have the GOL huge red.
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greyhaze
Warlord
6030 Posts
| | 05/20/2008 1:31 PM |
| I'm gonna be straight up with you Teflon, that argument holds ZERO water - the new players also don't have HUGE GREENS, HUGE BLUES or HUGE BLACKS... so, doing any of those 3 would have been just fine for new players too (imho).
I empathize with Angelfiend's sentiments.
Oh, and I'm not mad at you dude, just heard the same argument made many many times before.
The Mountain Titan and Cyclone will fill in suitably for huge elementals (albeit lamely), I like the huge carrion crawler and I'm ok with the umberhulk (it was begged for ceaselessly for quite some time - not by me), and who doesn't like dragons. The only two I'm meh about are the Gulvorg and Anathema, but they're ok in small doses.
I'm getting the feeling that the new set should be called "Against the Repeats". | |
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| | 05/20/2008 2:02 PM |
| Posted By greyhaze on 05/20/2008 1:31 PM
I'm gonna be straight up with you Teflon, that argument holds ZERO water - the new players also don't have HUGE GREENS, HUGE BLUES or HUGE BLACKS... so, doing any of those 3 would have been just fine for new players too (imho).
I empathize with Angelfiend's sentiments.
Oh, and I'm not mad at you dude, just heard the same argument made many many times before.
The Mountain Titan and Cyclone will fill in suitably for huge elementals (albeit lamely), I like the huge carrion crawler and I'm ok with the umberhulk (it was begged for ceaselessly for quite some time - not by me), and who doesn't like dragons. The only two I'm meh about are the Gulvorg and Anathema, but they're ok in small doses.
I'm getting the feeling that the new set should be called "Against the Repeats". Agreed, All of those would be good as well, and perhaps better choices. But the Red is more iconic than any other color of Dragon. I wouldn't be surprised to see sales go very well just on that basis. Also, that tends to bring out the collector market. How many RPG players will buy a few boosters in the new HRD lottery? Business wise, it's a pretty decent decision, even if it's not great for the sebment of enternched player. I also wish it would have been HGD, HBkD or HBuD.
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10357 Posts
United States
| | 05/20/2008 2:46 PM |
| I'm thinking that whoever was in charge of deciding on Huges for AtG wasn't a D&D player. Honestly. I can think of a dozen creatures that DMs would LOVE to have at their games. For the most part, the minis in this set don't appeal to me.
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Cthulhufnord
Warlord
10863 Posts
Umass Amherst Baby!
| | 05/20/2008 3:01 PM |
| Seems like par for the course unfortuntly. 
Posted By Vrecknidj on 05/20/2008 2:46 PM
I'm thinking that whoever was in charge of deciding on Huges for AtG wasn't a D&D player. Honestly. I can think of a dozen creatures that DMs would LOVE to have at their games. For the most part, the minis in this set don't appeal to me.
Dave
I do like the new Huge Red. I've got the Gol version, but I find the new sculpt much more apealing.
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stephengroy
Underboss
1382 Posts
Tempe AZ Beeyotch
| | 05/20/2008 3:02 PM |
| How about calling the set Against All Odds?
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Warlord
5663 Posts
| | 05/20/2008 3:03 PM |
| My take on the known (seen) huges so far:
Earth Titan - awesome stuff! Doubles as a huge earth elemental!
Fire Titan - meh...I would rather it be more fire elementally (3.5 speaking), but we already have one of those (Huge Fire Elemental).
Guulvorg - yuck, no thanks!
Yuan-Ti Anathema - again, I prefer the 3.5 art/concept of a single huge snake. This one is ok...
Enormous Carrion Crawler - meh, eh. I would have been ok without it. With it though, I think there could have been a better pick for a huge
Shadow Hulk - pretty cool, I'll take one
Thunderblast Cyclone - it may proxy as a huge air elemental, but it still doesn't look cool (do people still use that word?)
Elder White Dragon - AWESOME! So glad it wasn't some sort of static/standing pose.
Elder Red Dragon - eh, I would have rather a huge black/blue (not green! I love me some 3.5 green, but not 4.0 green). Wish the pose was more dynamic (more overhang please!)
Remember, with huges (and some larges) overhang could well be over all the other minis' heads. Imagine a elder (huge) black with his wings held up out and high as it descends on some hapless prey... | |
Originally posted by Schooly_D
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Cthulhufnord
Warlord
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Umass Amherst Baby!
| | 05/20/2008 3:07 PM |
| Where did we see the fire Titan?
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stephengroy
Underboss
1382 Posts
Tempe AZ Beeyotch
| | 05/20/2008 3:43 PM |
| | D&D XP or something | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
6030 Posts
| | 05/20/2008 3:54 PM |
| Posted By Cthulhufnord on 05/20/2008 3:07 PM
Where did we see the fire Titan?
It's also on my site... | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
6030 Posts
| | 05/20/2008 3:57 PM |
| Posted By Teflon Jeff on 05/20/2008 2:02 PM
But the Red is more iconic than any other color of Dragon.
I'm not buying what you're lying down. If they're new players - there's no such thing as "more iconic", they're new players! LOL. A huge black or blue (yes, green sucks) would be just as "iconic" as a red.
Traditionally speaking I believe standard dragons were green anyways (no?). | |
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Wraithborne
Commander
3722 Posts
West Virginia
| | 05/20/2008 4:18 PM |
| Posted By Anaxagoras on 05/20/2008 9:08 AM So...in the same post you complain about the overhang on the white-which is in a very aggressive pose....and then complain the the Huge Red is in too placid a pose-which is one of the few ways to get no overhang.....
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Cthulhufnord
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Umass Amherst Baby!
| | 05/20/2008 4:40 PM |
| Oh yeah, that guy.....
Posted By greyhaze on 05/20/2008 3:54 PM Posted By Cthulhufnord on 05/20/2008 3:07 PM
Where did we see the fire Titan?
It's also on my site...
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Cthulhufnord
Warlord
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Umass Amherst Baby!
| | 05/20/2008 4:41 PM |
| Pretty much whatever color they want.Â
I'm generaly remembering greens and browns for the most part. You know what, I'm going to do some image searches for dark age dragon images and post them in ot.
Posted By greyhaze on 05/20/2008 3:57 PM Posted By Teflon Jeff on 05/20/2008 2:02 PM
But the Red is more iconic than any other color of Dragon. I'm not buying what you're lying down. If they're new players - there's no such thing as "more iconic", they're new players! LOL. A huge black or blue (yes, green sucks) would be just as "iconic" as a red. Traditionally speaking I believe standard dragons were green anyways (no?).
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Sector 2814
| | 05/20/2008 5:21 PM |
| Posted By greyhaze on 05/20/2008 3:57 PM Posted By Teflon Jeff on 05/20/2008 2:02 PM
But the Red is more iconic than any other color of Dragon. I'm not buying what you're lying down. If they're new players - there's no such thing as "more iconic", they're new players! LOL. A huge black or blue (yes, green sucks) would be just as "iconic" as a red. Traditionally speaking I believe standard dragons were green anyways (no?).
The iconic bit is meant for traditional RPGers. For new irmish players, same deal, because generally, we are former RPGers who play skirmish, so when tying to lure in new players, the goal is more RPGers who recognize a Giant Red Dragon as Iconic. Heck, even outside of D&D, Smaug was a Red Dragon as well.
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stephengroy
Underboss
1382 Posts
Tempe AZ Beeyotch
| | 05/20/2008 5:27 PM |
| Posted By Teflon Jeff on 05/20/2008 5:21 PM Posted By greyhaze on 05/20/2008 3:57 PM Posted By Teflon Jeff on 05/20/2008 2:02 PM
But the Red is more iconic than any other color of Dragon. | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
6030 Posts
| | 05/20/2008 6:04 PM |
| Posted By Teflon Jeff on 05/20/2008 5:21 PM
The iconic bit is meant for traditional RPGers. For new irmish players, same deal, because generally, we are former RPGers who play skirmish, so when tying to lure in new players, the goal is more RPGers who recognize a Giant Red Dragon as Iconic. Heck, even outside of D&D, Smaug was a Red Dragon as well.
If it's for the ol timers they probably already have the GoL Red, if it's for new players it doesn't matter. If it's to convert new players from RPGers, then they know the 5 chromatics are the "iconics". Still not sold.
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LCS
Underboss
1887 Posts
| | 05/20/2008 8:45 PM |
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There are plenty of old-timers who don't own the GoL huge red, unless "old-timers" doesn't include people that haven't been collecting DDM for more than four years, didn't have plenty of disposable income to buy cases or sets or lots of boosters from the set, that didn't feel the need to collect one of every mini in every set, that were driven away from buying GoL because of the people taking advantage of case patterns to rip other people off, that just didn't like huge sets for whatever reason back then, or that didn't want to trade the equivalent of a half case of Ab/Dk/Af/Ud for a huge rare that spends almost as much time sitting on one person's shelf as it does on the gaming table of everyone west of the Rockies.
Personally, I'm hoping it's tall enough that the new huge red (and any future huge black and green dragons) doesn't look too small next to the icon Blue or Icingdeath. I really only want one "no one told us it was that big" dragon of each chromatic variety, and I'd like them to be more or less the same scale. I'd also prefer to avoid some of the ones that we've gotten already (like the icon Black which has a pose that I really dislike, and the icon Red that I consider to be just too big to be useable).
Unfortunately, I like Icingdeath's pose so much better than the huge white, that I know I won't decide to keep the huge white instead... so there's pretty much guaranteed to be some rebasing in my future.
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greyhaze
Warlord
6030 Posts
| | 05/20/2008 8:50 PM |
| Posted By LCS on 05/20/2008 8:45 PM
There are plenty of old-timers who don't own the GoL huge red, unless "old-timers" doesn't include people that haven't been collecting DDM for more than four years...
*snip*
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gausse
Sergeant
959 Posts
Wisconsin
| | 05/20/2008 9:53 PM |
| | Finally a couple decent minis for this set. Dragons, Umber Hulk and Fire Giant. The Red Dragon looks very nice. Though it looks more like the Silver to me? The GOL Huge Red Dragon is so fugly I could never bring myself to keep one. The burning skelly and carrion look promising. | |
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xuthal
Sergeant
649 Posts
Boulder, CO
| | 05/20/2008 10:18 PM |
| I'm still kind of shocked by the carrion crawler... Why a huge? I'm pleased with the Umber Hulk, though, but if the set doesn't have a huge Nalfeshnee I'll be pretty sad.
Did anyone catch Shoe's comments on hordelings implying that there may be a large aboleth in this set?
http://www.hordelings.com/forums/postView.php?viewPage=0&post_id=146919
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| | 05/21/2008 1:46 AM |
| Posted By Teflon Jeff on 05/20/2008 5:21 PM Posted By greyhaze on 05/20/2008 3:57 PM Posted By Teflon Jeff on 05/20/2008 2:02 PM
But the Red is more iconic than any other color of Dragon. I'm not buying what you're lying down. If they're new players - there's no such thing as "more iconic", they're new players! LOL. A huge black or blue (yes, green sucks) would be just as "iconic" as a red. Traditionally speaking I believe standard dragons were green anyways (no?). The iconic bit is meant for traditional RPGers. For new irmish players, same deal, because generally, we are former RPGers who play skirmish, so when tying to lure in new players, the goal is more RPGers who recognize a Giant Red Dragon as Iconic. Heck, even outside of D&D, Smaug was a Red Dragon as well.
Who's Smaug?
I believe a red dragon is iconic and traditional to all people. Go and ask someone (not DD player) how a dragon looks like. Everyone will tell you it breathes fire and most of them will add that it's red. Red is the colour of the devil, and dragons were seen as forces of the devil some time ago. Plus, it goes well with fire.
I think this is how people see a dragon - like the red version. Claws, this type of wings (so no golden one's wing-like things), horns on head in this position (not like the black one's for example), red, intimidating and fire-breathing.
The Chinese have a red fire-breathing dragon as an important part of their mythology.
A lot of comp games have a red dragon as its "base" dragon, as the first and most traditinal and iconic one. | |
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| | 05/21/2008 1:49 AM |
| Posted By Wraithborne on 05/20/2008 4:18 PM Posted By Anaxagoras on 05/20/2008 9:08 AM So...in the same post you complain about the overhang on the white-which is in a very aggressive pose....and then complain the the Huge Red is in too placid a pose-which is one of the few ways to get no overhang.....
 Yup indeed. And here I thought the easiest way to avoid overhang was to design minis that fit on their base. Both the Red and the White are simply too big. he White's leaning pose and outstretched wings just make it ridiculously so.I didn't say he needed a G.I. Joe Super Ninja action pose, but the way it is, it just doesn't look intimidating.
I think it's good to give them overhang. It looks bigger (even if only optically), more intimidating (=not boring) and more interesting. Look at the old Dire Bear. He has the old "small" Large base and looks mega big and mega powerful. Now, compare to the Verdant Reaver. Ugh. | |
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| | 05/21/2008 1:55 AM |
| Earth Titan - utter crap.
Fire Titan - meh...I would rather it be more fire elementally (3.5 speaking), but we already have one of those (Huge Fire Elemental). agree
Guulvorg - i like him, cool beastie.
Yuan-Ti Anathema - many snakes...need to wait to see in person. this will be harder to judghe
Enormous Carrion Crawler - looks cool. will keep one. hjope it's unc
Shadow Hulk - another umber hulk? Meh.
Thunderblast Cyclone -if unc, then i will keepone. and it can proxy as a living spell.
Elder White Dragon - Why are they making another white? Isn't the gar one and large one enough? I want a Huge Gold!
Elder Red Dragon - nice, intimidating and reigning pose. I like him and will keep one.
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