CM
Sneak
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| While I have occasionally seen some cyanoacrylate haze on glued-together figures (which wipes off easily), I have to say that I am not seeing any kind of dust developing on my figures, and they don't get any special treatment--just a toss in a shoebox.
I have seen some bases with satiny finishes and others with flat or glossy finishes, is that what you're talking about?
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Corim Danex
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| | 06/03/2008 3:43 PM |
| Posted By CM on 06/03/2008 1:56 PM
I have seen some bases with satiny finishes and others with flat or glossy finishes, is that what you're talking about?
No. This is more of a greyish white powdery look. Not black at all--satiny, glossy, nor flat. That would be how they are supposed to look, I would think.
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| | 06/03/2008 6:32 PM |
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gausse
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| | 06/04/2008 12:05 PM |
| | Not to worry, that haze is just the excess lead leeching out. They are fine once you pop them in your mouth for a second. | |
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| | Nuthin like poppin a little haze in u'r mouth... | |
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| | 06/04/2008 12:45 PM |
| Posted By greyhaze on 06/04/2008 12:28 PM
Nuthin like poppin a little haze in u'r mouth...
I didn't know your dating was going so well.
Do we have an chemists around who might be able to figure this out? I'm digging out my NB minis to check when I get home.
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kniterangr
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285 Posts
| | 06/04/2008 12:59 PM |
| | I have not checked to see if my minis are affected by this but I do recall that Wizards had to change their formula to meet EU standards. That change may be the cause of this. It may have taken a set to figure out the formula correctly. | |
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Dordledum
Commander
3194 Posts
Netherlands
| | 06/05/2008 7:56 AM |
| Almost all my NB minis do have this problem, it rubs off, but you have to rub hard. And it's hardly possible to get off the hard to reach areas. In my experience it's not only the bases, but in some cases the entire minis, my Verdant Reavers are the worst. They turned from brown to grey.
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| | 06/05/2008 8:06 AM |
| Not all of my Night Below minis are effected. Some are slightly dusty, others are very dusty.
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| | 06/05/2008 8:27 AM |
| Posted By Dordledum on 06/05/2008 7:56 AM
my Verdant Reavers are the worst. They turned from brown to grey.
D.
My Verdant Reavers were all dead-wood-gray the moment I got them. I don't recall them ever being brown. They appear to also be that gray color in the gallery. | |
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| | 06/05/2008 9:18 AM |
| Posted By MarioCleanstuff on 06/05/2008 8:27 AM Posted By Dordledum on 06/05/2008 7:56 AM
my Verdant Reavers are the worst. They turned from brown to grey.
D. My Verdant Reavers were all dead-wood-gray the moment I got them. I don't recall them ever being brown. They appear to also be that gray color in the gallery.
Ditto, mine were all a gray ashy color.
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| | 06/05/2008 10:32 AM |
| Posted By Teflon Jeff on 06/05/2008 9:18 AM Posted By MarioCleanstuff on 06/05/2008 8:27 AM Posted By Dordledum on 06/05/2008 7:56 AM
my Verdant Reavers are the worst. They turned from brown to grey.
D. My Verdant Reavers were all dead-wood-gray the moment I got them. I don't recall them ever being brown. They appear to also be that gray color in the gallery. Ditto, mine were all a gray ashy color.
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zenthrus
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| | 06/05/2008 10:47 AM |
| While the plastic may be decreasing in quality, I can assure you the glue is not. Just had an hour-long struggle with an Oni to remove its arms. The glue nearly won 
I really wish they'd go back to the old base formula, though. The new bases are too soft and tend to warp far too easily. | |
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| | 06/05/2008 11:59 AM |
| Posted By zenthrus on 06/05/2008 10:47 AM While the plastic may be decreasing in quality, I can assure you the glue is not. Just had an hour-long struggle with an Oni to remove its arms. The glue nearly won  I really wish they'd go back to the old base formula, though. The new bases are too soft and tend to warp far too easily.
Completely agree there. I didn't get any warped bases till Marut...
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paladin72
Sneak
88 Posts
| | 06/05/2008 12:12 PM |
| The one I really had problems with was the Ogre War Hulk. I pulled 3 or 4 and they were all warped badly.
I did finally get a couple to stay semi flat, but the bases are far from round. | |
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DreamstalkerWolf
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| | 06/12/2008 5:49 PM |
| Posted By Corim Danex on 06/03/2008 3:43 PM Posted By CM on 06/03/2008 1:56 PM
I have seen some bases with satiny finishes and others with flat or glossy finishes, is that what you're talking about?
No. This is more of a greyish white powdery look. Not black at all--satiny, glossy, nor flat. That would be how they are supposed to look, I would think.
I found that on a few of my NB minis, not all of them though. Storage method is less than ideal; plastic box and my apartment has been warmer than usual the past few days.
It wiped right off, nothing came off on my fingers like it would if it were dust.
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Corim Danex
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| | 06/13/2008 9:19 AM |
| | Yeah, it sort of wipes off. But not very well from the cracks. | |
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vanrulzz
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| | 06/13/2008 10:48 AM |
| | mine are stored on shelves and i have never had the powdery stuff on mine. just saying. | | | |
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DreamstalkerWolf
Skirmisher
42 Posts
| | 06/13/2008 10:51 AM |
| Yeah, exposure to air seems to be a factor. Mine that are on an open shelf don't have the gray stuff.
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yack
Commander
3164 Posts
Gatineau Canada
| | 06/13/2008 10:52 AM |
| Mine are in air tight plexi glass cabinets... man I better go check.
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| | 06/13/2008 11:53 AM |
| Posted By DreamstalkerWolf on 06/13/2008 10:51 AM
Yeah, exposure to air seems to be a factor. Mine that are on an open shelf don't have the gray stuff.
Hmm, yeah, most of mine are fine, when i was keeping them in mostly ventilated areas. I'll have to check them in bins now.
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| | 06/16/2008 3:58 PM |
| I found the white "powder" on a lot of my SWM when I dug them out for a skirmish game. Very low airflow in the storage they have (it's close to airtight)
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paladin72
Sneak
88 Posts
| | 06/16/2008 4:41 PM |
| Posted By Teflon Jeff on 06/16/2008 3:58 PM
I found the white "powder" on a lot of my SWM when I dug them out for a skirmish game. Very low airflow in the storage they have (it's close to airtight)
I would think if the airflow was the causing this all of them would have this problem. I threw a prisoner on my shelf the night I got him and he has the powder. He's never been in one of my tackle boxes.
I'm more inclined to believe the plastic formula, or paint was changed for certain sets.
None of my D&D minis before UH have it. I haven't checked my SW minis but I will.
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paladin72
Sneak
88 Posts
| | 06/16/2008 7:07 PM |
| None of my SW minis have the powder, but I haven't bought any since CotF.
Which of yours had it TJ? | |
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mege
Sneak
67 Posts
| | 06/17/2008 8:12 AM |
| | Biggest thing that I can see happening is with the summer sets. My NB and WotDQ are the most warped of all the sets (aka the summer releases). Perhaps one of the cuts they made was in how they stored the minis after manufacturing and prior to shipping. | | | |
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| | 06/17/2008 9:10 AM |
| I noticed it most on the square bases, but I thin it was the sets around that time. None of the huges had it, nor any promos.
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ScruffyRanger
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Central Coast AUSTRALIA
| | 06/21/2008 6:44 PM |
| Serious increase of warped bases, hey, zenthrus? I hope the price has also increased to cover said flexibility of the new product :)
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Ridureyu
Underboss
1622 Posts
| | 06/23/2008 11:35 AM |
| | Okay, is it plastic oxidation, or dust somehow attaching itself to certain pieces? I've noticed that if I "use" Night Below pieces (whether in game, RPG, or just messing around), then the "film" never appears on them. It's just the ones that lie fallow that seem to collect dust, but it only happens to that set. | |
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Teflon Jeff
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| | 06/23/2008 12:10 PM |
| Posted By Ridureyu on 06/23/2008 11:35 AM
Okay, is it plastic oxidation, or dust somehow attaching itself to certain pieces? I've noticed that if I "use" Night Below pieces (whether in game, RPG, or just messing around), then the "film" never appears on them. It's just the ones that lie fallow that seem to collect dust, but it only happens to that set.
Are you thinking it might be Charged particles causing attraction?
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Ridureyu
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| | 06/23/2008 1:46 PM |
| Dammit, Jeff! I'm a historian, not a chemist!
But yeah, does that sound feasible? | |
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| | 06/23/2008 2:38 PM |
| Posted By Ridureyu on 06/23/2008 1:46 PM
Dammit, Jeff! I'm a historian, not a chemist!
But yeah, does that sound feasible?
I've been wondering if it's a unique interaction with either the paint or clear plastic...
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| | 06/23/2008 2:53 PM |
| Well, if Gnoll Claw Fighters, Carnage Demons, those tree guys whose name escapes me, and Greyhawk Militia Sergeants use clear plpastic, then maybe. Those are the ones that get it the worst in my collection. | |
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