Vrecknidj
Warlord
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| I'm expecting we'll see a lot of resculpts for quite a few sets into the next couple of years. There are a lot of minis for 4e that players and DMs will want, and they'll want them to match the new art, and so the skirmishers will just have to deal with that.
Honestly, it doesn't really bother me. From a skirmish perspective, pieces are pieces. From an RPG perspective, I like having variety so I actually like the resculpts.
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MarioCleanstuff
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| | 06/15/2008 8:40 AM |
| | I agree with Vreck on those counts. | |
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Wraithborne
Commander
3531 Posts
West Virginia
| | 06/15/2008 9:16 AM |
| I don't mind resculpts so much when they look good, but dross like the recent Ettercap, Gnoll, Orc, Vampire Spawn, Grick, etc. would embarass me to put on the gaming table beside their older counterparts.
Some turn out great, like the Mummy, but it seems that they've been more to the crappy side lately.
Personally, I slightly disagree with Dave on the skirmish aspect. It does have nothing to do with win/lose etc. and maybe a lot of people really don't care what the minis in their warband look like, but I prefer to have better looking pieces on the table in my bands. Not only does it make you look like a hypercool beacon of awesomitudeinousness (tm), but it can catch folks interest that may be passing by.
We were doing some skirmishing to pass a little time at a local Con a while back and this guy asked what we were playing. We were using (and had more on the table) some good looking pieces like Balor, Dragons etc. We taught him to play and after a couple games,  he went and spent like $250 on boosters. He was totally pumped about the game and planned on getting all of his friends to play too. | |
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| | 06/15/2008 1:19 PM |
| Posted By Wraithborne on 06/15/2008 9:16 AM
I don't mind resculpts so much when they look good, but dross like the recent Ettercap, Gnoll, Orc, Vampire Spawn, Grick, etc. would embarass me to put on the gaming table beside their older counterparts.
Some turn out great, like the Mummy, but it seems that they've been more to the crappy side lately.
Personally, I slightly disagree with Dave on the skirmish aspect. It does have nothing to do with win/lose etc. and maybe a lot of people really don't care what the minis in their warband look like, but I prefer to have better looking pieces on the table in my bands. Not only does it make you look like a hypercool beacon of awesomitudeinousness (tm), but it can catch folks interest that may be passing by.
We were doing some skirmishing to pass a little time at a local Con a while back and this guy asked what we were playing. We were using (and had more on the table) some good looking pieces like Balor, Dragons etc. We taught him to play and after a couple games,  he went and spent like $250 on boosters. He was totally pumped about the game and planned on getting all of his friends to play too.
Nice!
I agree with Wraith; I prefer nicer-looking minis when I play. It's not the most important factor, but it can very easily catch other people's interest.
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Dordledum
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| | 06/16/2008 3:15 AM |
| I agree that for RPG it is much more fun to use 3 different Owlbear sculpts in an encounter with 3 owlbears. I only hope that they looke a bit like the 3.x versions for compatibility.
I hate what they did to the Grick for instance,
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Vrecknidj
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| | 06/16/2008 7:36 AM |
| Posted By Wraithborne on 06/15/2008 9:16 AM
I don't mind resculpts so much when they look good, but dross like the recent Ettercap, Gnoll, Orc, Vampire Spawn, Grick, etc. would embarass me to put on the gaming table beside their older counterparts. Good point. A lot of those minis aren't so happy looking. I really don't like the Mind Flayer Scourge--all the previous Mind Flayers look better to me.Personally, I slightly disagree with Dave on the skirmish aspect. It does have nothing to do with win/lose etc. and maybe a lot of people really don't care what the minis in their warband look like, but I prefer to have better looking pieces on the table in my bands. Not only does it make you look like a hypercool beacon of awesomitudeinousness (tm), but it can catch folks interest that may be passing by. That's why I wear my cool Hawaiian shirt, or carry my pink ribbon line of sight string. If my minis don't look awesome, at least I will.
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Teflon Jeff
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| | 06/16/2008 10:19 AM |
| I'll take the resculpts, it's a win-draw situation. If they're worse, I have the old ones to use. If they're better, Score!
Win or draw. No-lose situation, to me.
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Wraithborne
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3531 Posts
West Virginia
| | 06/16/2008 8:21 PM |
| Posted By Teflon Jeff on 06/16/2008 10:19 AM
I'll take the resculpts, it's a win-draw situation. If they're worse, I have the old ones to use. If they're better, Score!
Win or draw. No-lose situation, to me.
I guess technically, it's really a win/win for me. If they're nice then I want 'em and if not, then I save $. Problem is that I want to spend $ on minis, so my brain turns saving $ into a loss.
Posted By Vrecknidj on 06/16/2008 7:36 AM That's why I wear my cool Hawaiian shirt, or carry my pink ribbon line of sight string. If my minis don't look awesome, at least I will. Dave
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| | 06/17/2008 7:20 AM |
| Here, nearly complete.
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| Posted By FriendlyAlienist on 06/17/2008 7:20 AM
Here, nearly complete.
http://ddmspoilers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1489&start=0
Seen it. This thread was started before that list came up. I'm still waiting for the official set list (#, rarity, epic, etc). I think it's about time for some green backs!
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Dordledum
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| Posted By Username on 06/17/2008 7:53 AM Posted By FriendlyAlienist on 06/17/2008 7:20 AM
Here, nearly complete.
http://ddmspoilers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1489&start=0
Seen it. This thread was started before that list came up. I'm still waiting for the official set list (#, rarity, epic, etc). I think it's about time for some green backs! 
We want pictures!
Stats!
the works...
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greyhaze
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| | 06/17/2008 8:36 AM |
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Pictures! Pictures! Pictures!
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| | 06/17/2008 8:38 AM |
| Posted By greyhaze on 06/17/2008 8:36 AM
Pictures! Pictures! Pictures!
If you got new ones, please, please send them to matthew  d  mccullough  AT  gmail  DOT  com
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Originally posted by Schooly_D
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Teflon Jeff
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| | 06/17/2008 9:09 AM |
| Posted By Wraithborne on 06/16/2008 8:21 PM Posted By Teflon Jeff on 06/16/2008 10:19 AM
I'll take the resculpts, it's a win-draw situation. If they're worse, I have the old ones to use. If they're better, Score!
Win or draw. No-lose situation, to me.
I guess technically, it's really a win/win for me. If they're nice then I want 'em and if not, then I save $. Problem is that I want to spend $ on minis, so my brain turns saving $ into a loss. Posted By Vrecknidj on 06/16/2008 7:36 AM That's why I wear my cool Hawaiian shirt, or carry my pink ribbon line of sight string. If my minis don't look awesome, at least I will. Dave I'm glad there's an or in that sentence, otherwise that would be too much awesome for the human mind to handle 
As Master of the Awesome Sauce, I concur.
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greyhaze
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5804 Posts
| | 06/17/2008 9:27 AM |
| Posted By Username on 06/17/2008 8:38 AM Posted By greyhaze on 06/17/2008 8:36 AM
Pictures! Pictures! Pictures! If you got new ones, please, please send them to matthew  d  mccullough  AT  gmail  DOT  com I need a pick-me-up!
Sorry, I meant that as a chant (demanding pictures)... | |
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| | 06/17/2008 9:38 AM |
| Posted By greyhaze on 06/17/2008 9:27 AM Posted By Username on 06/17/2008 8:38 AM Posted By greyhaze on 06/17/2008 8:36 AM
Pictures! Pictures! Pictures! If you got new ones, please, please send them to matthew  d  mccullough  AT  gmail  DOT  com I need a pick-me-up! Sorry, I meant that as a chant (demanding pictures)...
NP. *sigh*
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Originally posted by Schooly_D
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zenthrus
Commander
4811 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 06/17/2008 10:21 AM |
| Posted By greyhaze on 06/16/2008 6:35 AM
Yep, new Grick sucks. The new grick is identical to the D&D 3rd Edition Grick sculpt. I've got a bunch of them.
The GoL grick is a substantially better sculpt.
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| | 06/17/2008 10:48 AM |
| Its way thinner it is like it's has starved!!!
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| | 06/17/2008 11:31 AM |
| Posted By zenthrus on 06/17/2008 10:21 AM Posted By greyhaze on 06/16/2008 6:35 AM
Yep, new Grick sucks. The new grick is identical to the D&D 3rd Edition Grick sculpt. I've got a bunch of them. The GoL grick is a substantially better sculpt.
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| | 06/17/2008 12:54 PM |
| Posted By Username on 06/17/2008 11:31 AM Posted By zenthrus on 06/17/2008 10:21 AM Posted By greyhaze on 06/16/2008 6:35 AM
Yep, new Grick sucks. The new grick is identical to the D&D 3rd Edition Grick sculpt. I've got a bunch of them. The GoL grick is a substantially better sculpt. It would have looked much better if it wasn't blue.
Agreed. Electric blue is not a good color for the Grick.
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Vrecknidj
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United States
| | 06/17/2008 2:33 PM |
| Posted By Teflon Jeff on 06/17/2008 12:54 PM
Agreed. Electric blue is not a good color for the Grick.
Hey man, stop dissing the blue Grick.
Actually, it was kinda disconcerting to see a bright blue Grick; it didn't fit at all with my conception of what a Grick should be.
Dave
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Corim Danex
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| | 06/17/2008 3:59 PM |
| | I kept zero of the new gricks. Looks like a worm whose head exploded in teeth. Zero cartoony muscular new trogs, too. | |
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Dordledum
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Netherlands
| | 06/17/2008 11:42 PM |
| Kept only 1 new Grick for collection purposes. I like the new trog and ettercap sculpts, even though they just don't look like trogs or ettercaps. Can use em in rpg for other stuff.
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| | 06/18/2008 5:13 AM |
| Posted By greyhaze on 06/17/2008 5:54 PM
Zero Gricks, zero Ettercaps.
I kept both as I like variety.
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| | 06/18/2008 5:19 AM |
| | I find the new Ettercap is actually worse then the grick. | |
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Rakhamon
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| | 06/18/2008 5:45 AM |
| I could have accepted the ettercap if it had looked as it does in the 4th ed Monster Manual. It doesn't. It has a weird old-man-face. Poopie.
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| | 06/18/2008 5:55 AM |
| It's a cool bugman, but no ettercap,
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| | 06/18/2008 10:16 PM |
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