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07/05/2008 9:41 AM  

.....and we finally have an answer to the age old question of whether mind flayers have feet. I woulda voted pseudopod myself.



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07/05/2008 10:05 AM  
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07/05/2008 10:56 AM  
Wonder what the other two boosters are. The one on the left looks like some kind of drow, but I can't pin down the dragon.

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07/05/2008 11:41 AM  
Posted By Rakhamon on 07/05/2008 10:56 AM
Wonder what the other two boosters are. The one on the left looks like some kind of drow, but I can't pin down the dragon.


The 6 armed drow is prolly some sort of Lolth blessed thing, giving it 8 limbs like a spider. As for the dragon, I figure it's Lead, Bromine or whatever other random element it was that came back with 4e.

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07/05/2008 11:56 AM  
maybe it's the new deep dragon?

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07/05/2008 1:54 PM  
i hope the dragons pose matchs the artwork

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07/05/2008 2:31 PM  
Thanks dude for the peak thats awesome!

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07/05/2008 2:34 PM  
Nice pics.The dragon is a shadow or deep dragon?I suppose it should be one of these two

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07/05/2008 4:23 PM  
Interesting....

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07/05/2008 4:32 PM  
The drow does appear to have 6 arms on my poster.

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07/05/2008 5:55 PM  
Thanks for posting. The illithid looks interesting. I won't find any use for a six-armed drow or another 4th edition dragon, though.
I hope for an uncommon illithids in Demonweb - just as I hoped for uncommon giants in this set.

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07/05/2008 7:52 PM  
Cripes, Against the Giants isn't even on shelves yet.


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07/05/2008 8:42 PM  
So that's off the set poster for AtG? Anything on the reverse side?
Nice find btw!

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07/05/2008 9:57 PM  
Posted By shazam01 on 07/05/2008 8:42 PM
So that's off the set poster for AtG? Anything on the reverse side?
Nice find btw!

I think an updated version of the King's Road map.

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07/06/2008 2:05 AM  
Yeah!
Its Kings road thats been "updated", it has no start or Victory areas! :P
So its really a RPG map.

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07/06/2008 8:07 AM  
Posted By Michael on 07/05/2008 5:55 PM
Thanks for posting. The illithid looks interesting. I won't find any use for a six-armed drow or another 4th edition dragon, though.
I hope for an uncommon illithids in Demonweb - just as I hoped for uncommon giants in this set.


There are supposed to be several Mind Flayers in the set, so you might just get your wish.

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07/06/2008 8:45 AM  
To clear up any "random element" confusion... If that's a metallic dragon, my bet's on Iron. Iron and Adamantine are the two new ones, and we're getting the latter in AtG.

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07/06/2008 10:28 AM  
Not sure I like an Mind Flayer with weapons.

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07/06/2008 10:48 AM  
Posted By Username on 07/06/2008 10:28 AM
Not sure I like an Mind Flayer with weapons.

I thought the same thing.

A Mind Flayer Weapons Master just doesn't fit the spirit of the creature. Not in the way I've came to picture them anyway.

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07/06/2008 8:23 PM  
Posted By Username on 07/05/2008 9:57 PM
Posted By shazam01 on 07/05/2008 8:42 PM
So that's off the set poster for AtG? Anything on the reverse side?
Nice find btw!

I think an updated version of the King's Road map.
Thanks for the clarification! Based on the other poster "updated" means without "exits"?


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07/06/2008 8:56 PM  
The Mind Flayer might be an Illithid Body Tamer.


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07/06/2008 9:37 PM  
Could the dragon be the as yet unseen (Swack) Iron Dragon that is mentioned in World & Monsters?


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07/07/2008 2:51 AM  
Posted By MarioCleanstuff on 07/06/2008 8:45 AM
To clear up any "random element" confusion... If that's a metallic dragon, my bet's on Iron. Iron and Adamantine are the two new ones, and we're getting the latter in AtG.

Iron is a good call, you can see some rust on the tail in the pic.

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07/08/2008 9:21 AM  
Could the drow be an "Aspect of Lolth"?
And the Dragon an Iron Dragon?

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07/08/2008 9:41 AM  
The more I look at it, the more I really dislike the weapon-upped Mind Flayer. Goes totally against my idea of Mind Flayers.

Your mileage may vary.

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07/08/2008 9:42 AM  
Posted By Darth Torment on 07/08/2008 9:21 AM
Could the drow be an "Aspect of Lolth"?
And the Dragon an Iron Dragon?


That would be interesting if that is the new Aspect of Lolth.  Wonder if she would be medium?

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07/08/2008 9:51 AM  
Is there already an Aspect of Lolth? I don't remember.  I just got into DDM after 2.0, so not as familiar with the older sets :)

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07/08/2008 9:54 AM  
Posted By Darth Torment on 07/08/2008 9:51 AM
Is there already an Aspect of Lolth? I don't remember.  I just got into DDM after 2.0 :)

Yes, way back when in Archfiends (3rd set released):



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07/08/2008 10:12 AM  

Oh ok, then probibily not I would think...or hope.

A rehash of an existing mini would suck (Tiefling Warlock :p ).


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07/08/2008 10:41 AM  
[...] Is that Mindflayer rocking out to a [...] guitar solo?
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:looks at better scan:

Damn. Mindflayer Shredder would have been awesome.

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07/08/2008 10:49 AM  
That's cool. A multi-armed drow, and a mind flayer with a weapon in hand.

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07/08/2008 11:08 AM  
Posted By Darth Torment on 07/08/2008 10:12 AM

Oh ok, then probibily not I would think...or hope.

A rehash of an existing mini would suck (Tiefling Warlock :p ).

Get used to it.  Happens all the time.  Against the Giants has about 13 (by my count) resculpts.


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07/08/2008 11:29 AM  
Yikes.  Really? That's a high % for one set!

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07/08/2008 11:43 AM  
Posted By Darth Torment on 07/08/2008 11:29 AM
Yikes.  Really? That's a high % for one set!

It's a prevalent gripe about this set.  WotC rehased monsters that are readily available on the secondary market (and perhaps some are still on the shelf) instead of doing new/4.0 monsters.

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07/08/2008 12:04 PM  
Posted By Username on 07/08/2008 11:43 AM
Posted By Darth Torment on 07/08/2008 11:29 AM
Yikes.  Really? That's a high % for one set!

It's a prevalent gripe about this set.  WotC rehased monsters that are readily available on the secondary market (and perhaps some are still on the shelf) instead of doing new/4.0 monsters.


Yeah that is dissapointing.  One or two per set, sure, but if your count is right that is just lazy. And in most cases the resulpts (from what I have seen or heard) are worse the second time around.
I hope Demonweb doesn't have that many.
 

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07/08/2008 2:13 PM  
To be fair, aren't a lot of the monsters they rehashed from older sets that new collectors like myself wouldn't necessarily find easily? Old Rares are a lot harder to snag than New Rares, so it makes sense for some Iconic monsters. I'm not a fan of rehashed minis, but, well, yeah. Complaining about rehashes from sets as old as Archfiends or Giants of Legend is just silly...from what I've seen the majority of players who were playing then are different folks now.
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I'm biased. I'd rather get a 4th edition monster/creature now rather than wait until they restat it for a set that's 7th in line to be restat'd and still no date for that is set.

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07/08/2008 2:45 PM  
Posted By OhGodtheRats on 07/08/2008 2:13 PM
To be fair, aren't a lot of the monsters they rehashed from older sets that new collectors like myself wouldn't necessarily find easily? Old Rares are a lot harder to snag than New Rares, so it makes sense for some Iconic monsters. I'm not a fan of rehashed minis, but, well, yeah. Complaining about rehashes from sets as old as Archfiends or Giants of Legend is just silly...from what I've seen the majority of players who were playing then are different folks now.
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:sigh:

I'm biased. I'd rather get a 4th edition monster/creature now rather than wait until they restat it for a set that's 7th in line to be restat'd and still no date for that is set.

Here are the minis I counted (plus an addition or two) as rescultps (which do vary in price/availability and may have a very reasobable proxy for RPG use):

Boneclaw Impaler (Boneclaw)
Blazing Skeleton (Burning Skeleton)
Cave Bear (Celestial Black Bear)
Elf Arcane Archer (Arcane Archer, Half-Elf Bow Initiate, almost any elf with a bow not in armor)
Efreeti Flamestrider (Efreeti)
Elder Red Dragon (Huge Red Dragon)
Fire Giant Raider (Fire Giant)
Furious Owlbear (Owlbear, Owlbear Rager)
Goblin Runner (Goblin Skirmisher, Goblin Picador)
Lizardfolk Raider (Lizardfolk, Darktalon Champion)
Ochre Jelly (Ochre Jelly)
Orc Zombie (Horde Zombie)
Roper (Roper)
Ravenous Dire Rat (Dire Dart, Diseased Dire Rat, Rat Swarm)
Voracious Ice Devil (Ice Devil)
Xorn Ravager (Xorn)


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07/09/2008 3:07 AM  
That's a nice list and good to actually see.
A few of those rehashings do piss me off....The Goblin Runner is like the Goblin Picador (though I've never seen/heard of a Goblin Skirmisher) and the Lizardfolk did get a pretty good common fairly recently. I still say that most of those are pretty dang old by 2.0 player standards...new players might not want to go to secondary markets and have to print their own cards at home to use some classic monsters, or creatures the 4th edition books hype through some hardcore artwork (boneclaw, for instance). But you're right. Some of those are unnecessary.

You know what I'm surprised they didn't rehash? Those Kruthik things from the Miniature Manual. In the 4th edition MM they got two full pages of stats and lore, which is one more than beholders got. And they kruthik things they did release are older than some of the stuff they rehashed. (Owlbear, I'm looking at you.)
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