Vrecknidj
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| So, anyone else like crossword puzzle clues?
I see that next summer's set will be another Huge set. And, I wanted to troll for posts about it, so, hence my title.
What's your opinion of having another Huge set so soon?
I am not in favor.
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| | 08/16/2008 6:31 AM |
| | I just hope they have better huges. | |
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Wraithborne
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The Red Light District
| | 08/16/2008 7:12 AM |
| | In theory, I love huge sets. In practice, not so much. GoL was a really good set, but the huge rares were too rare. Doing one set a year, they're bound to give us some desireable huges eventually. | |
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Wolfgang
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| | 08/16/2008 7:56 AM |
| | i think they should do a huge set every 5th set that way it's not to expensive but hey why would they listen to us now? | |
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zoroaster100
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| | 08/16/2008 9:48 AM |
| | I'm glad they are doing another huge set so that hopefully they can now give us a huge blue dragon, a huge black dragon without a rider, a huge green dragon, a huge water elemental-looking creature, a huge beholder hive mother, a huge balor, a goristro demon, a soulspike devourer, a gibbering orb, a mordant hydra, a winterfrost owlbear, an even maybe a thunderhawk or chuul juggernaut. | |
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JodyJ
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| | 08/16/2008 10:55 AM |
| Posted By Wolfgang on 08/16/2008 7:56 AM
i think they should do a huge set every 5th set that way it's not to expensive but hey why would they listen to us now?
Problem is when you say "us" it really means 'some of us'. A bunch of folks including myself have been asking for huge sets every year since 2004 after GoL.
This is welcome news for some of us. | |
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Corim Danex
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| | 08/16/2008 1:06 PM |
| | Huge sets aren't so bad when you buy singles. | |
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| | 08/16/2008 1:10 PM |
| Posted By Corim Danex on 08/16/2008 1:06 PM
Huge sets aren't so bad when you buy singles.
Ha! Pretty much true unfortunately. I can't say I'm that much in favor of huge sets anymore. I've been picking up the Tod McFarlane Dragons lately. The latest DDM dragons are really sad looking in comparison.
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Mjollnir
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| | 08/16/2008 2:48 PM |
| Posted By Wraithborne on 08/16/2008 7:12 AM
In theory, I love huge sets. In practice, not so much.
I agree. Absolutely.
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| | 08/16/2008 2:51 PM |
| Posted By zoroaster100 on 08/16/2008 9:48 AM
I'm glad they are doing another huge set so that hopefully they can now give us a huge blue dragon, a huge black dragon without a rider, a huge green dragon, a huge water elemental-looking creature, a huge beholder hive mother, a huge balor, a goristro demon, a soulspike devourer, a gibbering orb, a mordant hydra, a winterfrost owlbear, an even maybe a thunderhawk or chuul juggernaut.
You forget the Nalfeshnee, the Aboleth (are they still huge in 4th ed.?), the Retriever and Bebilith demons and more as we recall them.
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Warlord
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| | 08/16/2008 4:15 PM |
| | I believe the aboleth is large (need to recheck with my MM 4E). | |
Originally posted by Schooly_D
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zoroaster100
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873 Posts
| | 08/16/2008 6:23 PM |
| | The aboleth is large in 4th edition. It looks like there is already a large aboleth planned for the set after Demonweb, the Feywild set, per information released at Gencon today. I've switched to 4th, so that is fine with me, but it would be cool if they developed an advanced huge aboleth creature so they could still do a huge aboleth some time in the future. I've never been too excited about a bebilith mini, because I use the minis for RPG and they've already produced a fiendish huge spider that substitutes just fine. | |
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stephengroy
Underboss
1415 Posts
Tempe AZ Beeyotch
| | 08/16/2008 10:07 PM |
| as for buying:
two at PreRelease, seven after that.
Finally three more netted me:
Huge Red x2
Huge White
Death Titan x2
Fire Titan x2
Aspect of Kokopelli x2
Big Swirly Air Thing
Bluespawn Armortard
Shadow Hulk
So that's what, Eight Rares, four Uncommons?
I traded for some Uncommons and went to Auggie's for the rest.
I'd hafta say I was much more pleased with AtG than WotDQ
Still need Tomebound Arcanist, so pls hit my list | |
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Denmark
| | 08/17/2008 9:32 AM |
| Posted By JodyJ on 08/16/2008 10:55 AM Posted By Wolfgang on 08/16/2008 7:56 AM
i think they should do a huge set every 5th set that way it's not to expensive but hey why would they listen to us now? Problem is when you say "us" it really means 'some of us'. A bunch of folks including myself have been asking for huge sets every year since 2004 after GoL. This is welcome news for some of us.
It is indeed welcome news... There are several huge creatures I would like to see - balor, goristro, mordant hydra, gibbering orb (well, if we get a gibbering abomination, that's cool too), and, if they make into 4th edition, nalfeshnee, frost worm, remorhaz, and catopblepas (but it could work as a large).
However, my beefs with Against the Giants was not so much about distribution as about quality. Most of the minis were awful. The next set looks promising, and hopefully, Wizards can sustain that quality through their next huge set. | |
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Wolfgang
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Milton, Ontario Canada
| | 08/17/2008 9:36 AM |
| Problem is when you say "us" it really means 'some of us'. A bunch of folks including myself have been asking for huge sets every year since 2004 after GoL.
i just hope they listen to somebody
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paladin72
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| | 08/17/2008 10:27 AM |
| Posted By Wolfgang on 08/17/2008 9:36 AM
i just hope they listen to somebody
Besides the ones they have been listening to the last couple of sets anyway. | |
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Vrecknidj
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10446 Posts
United States
| | 08/17/2008 7:54 PM |
| I had a long talk with Shoe at GenCon. They are very aware of the problems that skirmish players face with Huge sets. Both in terms of collecting minis (such as the regular rares in Huge sets) and in terms of organized play (such as what to do about DCI rankings for 500-point play, etc.). The folks who make these things for us and for the RPG folks know what's going on. They're keeping up on the chatter on all the boards, etc.
What we can do is continue to express our concerns, but also give merit where it's due. I came away with the impression that several ideas are under consideration.
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paladin72
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| | 08/17/2008 8:31 PM |
| Posted By Vrecknidj on 08/17/2008 7:54 PM
I had a long talk with Shoe at GenCon. They are very aware of the problems that skirmish players face with Huge sets. Both in terms of collecting minis (such as the regular rares in Huge sets) and in terms of organized play (such as what to do about DCI rankings for 500-point play, etc.). The folks who make these things for us and for the RPG folks know what's going on. They're keeping up on the chatter on all the boards, etc.
What we can do is continue to express our concerns, but also give merit where it's due. I came away with the impression that several ideas are under consideration.
Dave
This is good news indeed.
I really hope they revisit some of the All Star stats, and maybe offer some official cards for the players that can't go to the cons. | |
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Wolfgang
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| | 08/18/2008 4:54 AM |
| Posted By Vrecknidj on 08/17/2008 7:54 PM
I had a long talk with Shoe at GenCon. They are very aware of the problems that skirmish players face with Huge sets. Both in terms of collecting minis (such as the regular rares in Huge sets) and in terms of organized play (such as what to do about DCI rankings for 500-point play, etc.). The folks who make these things for us and for the RPG folks know what's going on. They're keeping up on the chatter on all the boards, etc.
What we can do is continue to express our concerns, but also give merit where it's due. I came away with the impression that several ideas are under consideration.
Dave
This is good news indeed.
I really hope they revisit some of the All Star stats, and maybe offer some official cards for the players that can't go to the cons.
yea i have to say i think it is a bad idea to give the 2.0 card sets away just at gen con because the average joe is never going to see any because they are pulling good money on ebay and really who is going to buy a set of cards for $25+ | |
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Arandae
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| | 08/18/2008 5:12 AM |
| As others have said, in theory I'm happy with huge sets. There are so many great huge creatures not yet made - the problem is, WotC seem to have great difficulty putting any of them into their huge sets.
If they put in useful creatures - hydra, nalfeshnee, spider eater, huge water elemental (type thing) - then I'll be excited. The last two huge sets were mostly pointless. | |
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zoroaster100
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| | 08/18/2008 5:22 AM |
| | I'm looking to another huge set next year. From Against the Giants, I was really pleased with the fire titan and the earth titan (which also makes a great huge earth elemental for third edition players), as well as being pretty pleased with the huge white dragon, shadow umber hulk and thunderblast cyclone. I was not too excited about the other huges in that set however. So that set was a 50/50 hit or miss. That is an acceptable, though not ideal level of hit or miss for the huge slots. | |
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Shottglazz
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| | 08/18/2008 7:21 AM |
| | I too hope they do a huge water-elemental-type mini next summer...with Huge Fire, Huge Earth (Earth Titan) and Huge Air (Thunderblast Cyclone); we 3e groups are only missing the water... | |
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| | 08/18/2008 11:57 PM |
| | I would love to have a huge set once a year. I would also love for the huges to be better than AtG huges. | |
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Warlord
5690 Posts
| | 08/19/2008 6:15 AM |
| | I'd like to see more riderless huge dragons. I think there should be at least 1 chromatic and 1 metallic per huge set. | |
Originally posted by Schooly_D
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freedeath
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Great White North
| | 08/19/2008 9:40 AM |
| | 1 huge set every 2 years worked for me. There are only so many huges to make. | |
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5690 Posts
| | 08/19/2008 10:17 AM |
| Posted By freedeath on 08/19/2008 9:40 AM
1 huge set every 2 years worked for me. There are only so many huges to make.
Probably true, but I am wondering if WotC is trying to get more huges out faster to support 4E RPG sessions. | |
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Warlord
5690 Posts
| | 08/19/2008 10:18 AM |
| | I wonder if the the new fomorian will show up in this set. | |
Originally posted by Schooly_D
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Teflon Jeff
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| | 08/19/2008 11:17 AM |
| Meh, they mess with limited.
I'll go singles for it, for sure.
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GnollMercy
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| | 08/21/2008 12:03 PM |
| I like huges, always thought they should divide the package distribution, have packs w/ huges and packs w/ the normal mix for the normal price. Maybe that makes the process to complex but could make everyone happy. Water elemental would be awesome btw.
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SneakyJoeKDB
Sergeant
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Utah
| | 08/21/2008 12:33 PM |
| | I am a supporter of huge sets. ATG was a good step for skirmish balance. Keep the rare titanisc minis, but increase the minis per booster to 9. This would solve a lot of problems. | |
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Vrecknidj
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10446 Posts
United States
| | 08/21/2008 6:13 PM |
| The thing is, there are a lot of Huge figures that DMs would love to have their hands on. The problem is with getting them into DMs' hands. The current method, distribution through the normal boosters, works, but not as well as it could. There might be a better way, and WotC staff, I think, is looking into alternatives. (Not that this means that they won't decide that the present method is still best.)
There are quite a few Huge pieces I'd like to see, and so, in that regard, I'm happy with Huge figures being available at least once a year. However, I'm not so keen on having them distributed that often through the skirmish sets. I'm just not interested in the loss of value I suffer by buying cases with Huge figures.
How many Armored Guulvorgs does one guy need? I have four already (or more), and I don't even need one. I suppose I could use one as a substitute for a Huge dire wolf or something, except for the blue, and the armor, and the scales...
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Teflon Jeff
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| | 08/22/2008 1:49 PM |
| I'm all for trying something new, if they think it will help.
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Bert the Troll
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Adelaide
| | 08/25/2008 4:16 PM |
| Posted By Corim Danex on 08/16/2008 1:06 PM
Huge sets aren't so bad when you buy singles.
I agree. This huge set cost me almost nothing.
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I dont wont another huge set that recyles the bulk of huges. | |
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| | 08/25/2008 4:23 PM |
| Posted By GnollMercy on 08/21/2008 12:03 PM
I like huges, always thought they should divide the package distribution, have packs w/ huges and packs w/ the normal mix for the normal price. Maybe that makes the process to complex but could make everyone happy. Water elemental would be awesome btw.
I'd like that. | |
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Dordledum
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Netherlands
| | 08/26/2008 12:37 AM |
| AtG turned out better than expected from all the spoilers and previews, in the end I was quite pleased. The only really f*** up was WotDQ IMHO.
But a huge water elemental creature would be awesome, I loved the wave from Bloodwar, that in huge form would rule!
For sealed play environments huge sets are awful though
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5690 Posts
| | 08/26/2008 6:07 AM |
| Posted By Dordledum on 08/26/2008 12:37 AM
The only really f*** up was WotDQ IMHO.
D.
How so? Huge wise, it had a couple of stinkers (DBPL, BSGS & Eldritch Giant), but I believe I liked the rest of the huges. So, 9/12 isn't so bad (some may add Sorcerer and Tundra Scout to the stinker list though). | |
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SneakyJoeKDB
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593 Posts
Utah
| | 08/26/2008 7:06 AM |
| | I so hope they make a Mordant Hydra! Hydra is my favorite D&D monster of all time! Now please dont make the stats suck as you did the Fen Hydra... Please! | |
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Dordledum
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Netherlands
| | 08/26/2008 7:49 AM |
| Posted By Username on 08/26/2008 6:07 AM Posted By Dordledum on 08/26/2008 12:37 AM
The only really f*** up was WotDQ IMHO.
D. How so? Huge wise, it had a couple of stinkers (DBPL, BSGS & Eldritch Giant), but I believe I liked the rest of the huges. So, 9/12 isn't so bad (some may add Sorcerer and Tundra Scout to the stinker list though).
I guess it's mostly expectations vs realisations. I expected a lot from WotDQ, and I found it dissapointing. I expected not much from AtG and was pleasantly surprised.
The huges from WotDQ weren't terrible, but not awesome either:
Huge fire, purple worm, huge spider, mountain troll, and Dracolich were good ones.
Tundra scout, Bahamut, and Eldritch dude were neutral.
Tiamat, Barney, SoBD, and DBPL sucked.
the major gripe with WotDQ were no normal huge dragons and a load of crappy non-huge rares!!! The rares from huge sets are a pain to complete, and if they are Wizened Elder Watchers, I get annoyed!
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Dordledum
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Netherlands
| | 08/26/2008 7:50 AM |
| Posted By SneakyJoeKDB on 08/26/2008 7:06 AM
I so hope they make a Mordant Hydra! Hydra is my favorite D&D monster of all time! Now please dont make the stats suck as you did the Fen Hydra... Please!
Is that a huge one? we need a huge hydra (and beholder, aboleth, etc)
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