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11/19/2007 11:39 PM  
Posted By Salsero on 11/17/2007 9:17 PM
Some more ideas:

I really like what you did with King Obould and the Chosen of Gruumsh SA, so here's a little suggestion:

Chosen of Gruumsh (CE commanders whose names contain Gruumsh are legal in your warband and gain Willing to Follow. This ability supersedes Domineering)

That would make for much more fun and sinergetic warbands, like:

Epic Obould
Eye of Gruumsh x 5
Cleric of Gruumsh

Maybe they should follow just King Obould, like Wulfgar follows only Heroes.

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11/21/2007 11:08 AM  
Great job on all these cards!!

Kudos to all!!

Thanks for sharing.

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11/26/2007 10:13 AM  
How do you create these cards?

Which program do you use?

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11/26/2007 1:06 PM  
Posted By Pedro on 11/26/2007 10:13 AM
How do you create these cards?

Which program do you use?

I used Photoshop. I made a template, then typed everything in and put the picture in.
 


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11/26/2007 11:35 PM  
Posted By angelfiend on 11/26/2007 1:06 PM
Posted By Pedro on 11/26/2007 10:13 AM
How do you create these cards?

Which program do you use?

I used Photoshop. I made a template, then typed everything in and put the picture in.
 


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11/30/2007 3:53 PM  
Angelfiend,

Could we get a link to a zip file with these images. I'd love to play a skirmish game where every player had to build a warband around one of these CREATED epics.

If you need a site to host the zip I can volunteer the storage space.

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12/01/2007 2:52 AM  
Okay. I made an Ulmo card now, and updated the Obould card on the first page.

As far as making a zip file, I will work on that. I will also work on making more cards.
(EDIT: Changed up Ulmo's ranged attacks. If he can hide, it was too much)







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12/01/2007 9:52 PM  
Thank you very much Angelfiend!

I really like this epic Ulmo. If LG lacks anything, it is good low point-cost epic cards.

This will go straight to my "Justice League" warband (1000 point uniques-only Drizzt warband).


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12/01/2007 11:13 PM  
Awesome!!! Epic Ulmo looks great, playable and possible competitive ..... THX!!! I will test it, I can't wait more longer....

Maybe this topic would be sticky, everyone love it!

Thx Angel


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12/03/2007 10:49 AM  
Nice build...

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12/05/2007 1:21 PM  

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12/05/2007 2:42 PM  
I like slither !

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12/05/2007 4:52 PM  
I love all of these cards, do you have a plan to make epic cards for creatures of all stars? I'd like to see epic cards of Champ of Eli, Red wizard, or others.

Quality is great except Ulmo.. what happened font of Ulmo's card?

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12/05/2007 6:59 PM  
I miss both Lareth and the Behir from GoL. Wish these were real cards for them.

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12/05/2007 10:49 PM  
Posted By virginis on 12/05/2007 4:52 PM
Quality is great except Ulmo.. what happened font of Ulmo's card?


I have no idea what happened in the conversion of the PSD file to JPG. I fixed it though, so if you refresh the page,  it should look like all the rest now.


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12/07/2007 1:00 PM  
The same font issue happened with some of the Obould text.

Great job with the epic Behir, BTW. I would like to try it with a skyfire captain and/or crow shamans. Perhaps with a Brass Samurai.


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12/09/2007 3:36 PM  
Posted By desiderata on 11/18/2007 8:13 PM
Level 23 and spells only up to 6th level???!!!  How weak!!!  LOL


With 32 points...psh, my 200 point epic band will own yours anyday lol

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12/10/2007 8:39 PM  
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12/10/2007 8:44 PM  
I also have plans for other cards like this one:
(EDIT: I adjusted Urthok a bit based on people's feedback.)






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12/10/2007 9:18 PM  
I like that titan-like version of Urthok. You can probably reduce his cost by quite a bit. He looks like he fights around as well as a Fire Giant Forgepriest, but since he is a commander, you could probably price him somewhere in the 95-105 pt range. Remember that being unique is supposed to give you some allowance in costing a piece more aggressively. At 121 pts your Urthok wouldn't have much of a warband around him, but if you made it around 20 pts less, he could work reasonably well.

And, thanks for the ideas.  Keep 'em coming.

Edit:  Also, you can probably give Urthok magic damage.  At that lofty level, he would have probably acquired a magic weapon already.

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12/11/2007 1:58 AM  
I agree. That urthok is a bit overcosted. LE is lack of providing magic weapon. So no magic dmg is somehow critical. Also low speed and almost same HP/cost ratio but I can't find any good characteristics to him. And main disadvantage is there are not so good mid-cost goblinoid who provide backup. I also agree to set his cost 95-105pt range.

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12/11/2007 2:02 AM  
BTW, is Aspect of Bane's dread can stack with itself? he is titan, but while every enemys are trying to knock down him, he can make full 80 dmg to all surrounding enemy, like great cleave.

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12/11/2007 9:28 AM  
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12/11/2007 10:52 AM  

I personally think the beefy titan commander unit is usually limited in it's use for 200 point games.  I'd rather see Urthok pumped up a bit more and made epic rather than given a non-epic tougher version.  Add some more HP, AC and attack and maybe another unique special ability and push him into the higher hundreds for cost.



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12/12/2007 1:35 AM  
Thanks for everyone's thoughts. I am taking them all into account.

Here's my favorite card we have made so far:
(EDIT: Changed Woodland Stride to Stable Footing)







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12/12/2007 2:24 AM  
Vadania is very nice! But give her some more life, she will go down too quickly this way for this cost.

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12/12/2007 2:37 AM  
the Bodyguard ability for Dire Bear should be clarified. You know there are two types of bodyguard right now. About life or point, she is CG commander and somehow it is ok that she is squashy. lots of summon ability and great save... I just think that a little higher HP(about 10~15) is enough for her.

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12/12/2007 2:39 AM  
That devis superstar has lots of ambiguous ability that I don't like., specially Ironskin Chant and others

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12/12/2007 9:36 AM  
That epic Vadania is very nice, ideed. The HP is good as it is, as she has a 105 HP bodyguard included as a minion, and adding the 2 extra summons I think thats plenty to keep her alive long enough.
The only drawback is that I don't have a Shambling Mound...nor a Vadania for that matter .

The epic Bane is just great (I can see him easily defeating epic Tordek warbands, for instance) and I love epic Bulette, it was one of my favorite huges back in GoL days.
Perhaps you want to change "Not Subject to Commander Effects" to "Wild" as in the non-epic version, I found that less restrictive and you can play an Epic Bulette-Epic Vadania warband, that should be fun.

Keep 'em comming!


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12/12/2007 10:52 AM  
DO MEEPO DO MEEPO PLEASE!!!!!!!

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12/13/2007 1:27 AM  
I am having so much fun making these. For those of you who wanted to print them, I haven't forgotten. I am still working on making each into a PDF, and then putting them all in a zip file.
(EDIT: Oops, I never put a box on the Hard to Kill.)











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12/13/2007 4:06 PM  
How are you creating these? Do you have a template that you would be willing to share?

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12/15/2007 1:21 AM  
Posted By Qucalion of Celene on 12/13/2007 4:06 PM
How are you creating these? Do you have a template that you would be willing to share?


I can get you as far as the blank card and the faction symbols. After that, you are on your own. I had to purchase a commercial font to get it to look close to Wizards' cards (Tyrnavia), but the other font for the title you can find pretty easily. It is Benguiat.

What format would you want a template in? I can e-mail it easily enough.


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12/15/2007 11:43 AM  
That Epic Orcus looks mean. Hard to kill could be very nasty (to your opponent's warband, that is) if it goes off at the right time(s).

But I liked Alusair more. I guess it's time to use her with a Slaughterstone Eviscerator and some War Weavers to set a nice Powerful Charge - Enhanced Mobility combo for a possible 140 damage full attack.
Also, High Command is a very nice and versatile Special Ability and Vorpal is a nice touch too.


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12/15/2007 11:54 AM  
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12/15/2007 12:29 PM  
meepo is pretty kewl.
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12/15/2007 1:06 PM  
That Devis, Superstar looks like the ultimate team buffer. He could make the Storm Giant playable again in 1000 pt games.

Vadania looks fantatstic. I like her improved summoning ability in Shambler. Another 20 HP on her would be nice - bodyguard doesn't work against spells and breath weapons.

Alusair's High Command abilities are very thematic. Nice.

Orcus' Hard to Kill ability could win you the game if it goes off a few too many times. Maybe keep it to 1 or 2 uses.

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12/15/2007 2:21 PM  
Posted By Salsero on 12/15/2007 11:43 AM
That Epic Orcus looks mean. Hard to kill could be very nasty (to your opponent's warband, that is) if it goes off at the right time(s).

But I liked Alusair more. I guess it's time to use her with a Slaughterstone Eviscerator and some War Weavers to set a nice Powerful Charge - Enhanced Mobility combo for a possible 140 damage full attack.
Also, High Command is a very nice and versatile Special Ability and Vorpal is a nice touch too.

You forgot the Sword Archon:)

Very nice cards.

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12/16/2007 7:21 AM  
I have to say Epic Orcus is just great after seeing him in action.

So far we have played Epic Treant (the trample is just mean), Ulmo (finished off an Epic Mina with a 140 damage full attack), Lady Vol (very powerful AoEs), Mina (who failed to shine due to Ulmo), Mummy Lord (just one attack is nothing to look down at...this has to be one of my favorites so far), Bulette and Behir (those didn't go as well as they should have due to bad luck...natural 1 on the Bulette's Leap, etc.)

But the mini of the night was the Epic Aspect of Orcus. He failed to land his Death Blow attack and a lot of his other attacks, but he made up escaping certain death...9 times!!! He dealt more damage (360 damage) after he should have been strictly dead than he did at the begginig.
We all agreed that he has gained his right to leave the display shelves more often.

Still looking forward to play with Epic Demogorgon, King Obould with his pile of Eyes of Gruumsh, Centaur Hero, Epic Bane and many more...
These cards are great, very nice of you to share'em.


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12/16/2007 7:13 PM  
Posted By Salsero on 12/16/2007 7:21 AM
I have to say Epic Orcus is just great after seeing him in action.

So far we have played Epic Treant (the trample is just mean), Ulmo (finished off an Epic Mina with a 140 damage full attack), Lady Vol (very powerful AoEs), Mina (who failed to shine due to Ulmo), Mummy Lord (just one attack is nothing to look down at...this has to be one of my favorites so far), Bulette and Behir (those didn't go as well as they should have due to bad luck...natural 1 on the Bulette's Leap, etc.)

But the mini of the night was the Epic Aspect of Orcus. He failed to land his Death Blow attack and a lot of his other attacks, but he made up escaping certain death...9 times!!! He dealt more damage (360 damage) after he should have been strictly dead than he did at the begginig.
We all agreed that he has gained his right to leave the display shelves more often.

Still looking forward to play with Epic Demogorgon, King Obould with his pile of Eyes of Gruumsh, Centaur Hero, Epic Bane and many more...
These cards are great, very nice of you to share'em.

Probably much to your dismay, I never put a box on Hard to Kill because I forgot to, so now Orcus has Hard to Kill that he can use once. :) Thanks for playing with my cards though. Awesome!


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