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06/07/2006 8:21 PM  
O.K., here's all of the monsters sized tiny through large in the MM1. Not included is advanced creatures that don't look significantly different from the base creature (such as the Mummy/Mummy Lord) or the example templated creatures (such as the half-black dragon human fighter). Creatures we've gotten or that I consider "Close Enough For Government Work" will be Scratched Out. Decent proxies will be italicized. As we get these creatures confirmed for future sets, I'll continue to strike them from the list.

Achaierai
Allip
Angel, Astral Deva
Angel, Planetar
Angel, Solar
Animated Object, Tiny
Animated Object, Small
Animated Object, Medium
Animated Object, Large
Ankheg
Ape
Aranea
Archon, Lantern
Archon, Hound
Archon, Trumpet
Arrowhawk, Juvenile
Arrowhawk, Adult
Arrowhawk, Elder
Assassin Vine
Azer

Baboon
Badger
Barghest
Barghest, Greater
Basilisk
Basilisk, Abyssal Greater
Bear, Black
Bear, Brown
Beholder
Beholderkin, Gauth
Belker
Bison
Blink Dog
Boar
Bodak
Bugbear

Camel
Carrion Crawler
Centaur
Chaos Beast
Cheetah
Chimera
Choker
Chuul
Cloaker
Cockatrice
Couatl
Crocodile

Darkmantle
Demon, Babau
Demon, Balor
Demon, Dretch
Demon, Hezrou
Demon, Marilith
Demon, Quasit
Demon, Succubus
Demon, Vrock
Derro
Destrachan
Devil, Barbed
Devil, Bearded
Devil, Bone
Devil, Chain
Devil, Erinyes
Devil, Hellcat
Devil, Horned
Devil, Ice
Devil, Imp
Devil, Lemure
Devil, Pit Fiend
Devourer
Digester
Dinosaur, Deinonychus
Dire Ape
Dire Badger
Dire Bat
Dire Bear
Dire Boar
Dire Lion
Dire Rat
Dire Tiger
Dire Weasel
Dire Wolf
Dire Wolverine
Displacer Beast
Dog
Dog, Riding
Donkey
Doppleganger
Dragon, Tiny Black
Dragon, Small Black
Dragon, Medium Black
Dragon, Large Black
Dragon, Small Blue
Dragon, Medium Blue
Dragon, Large Blue
Dragon, Small Green
Dragon, Medium Green
Dragon, Large Green
Dragon, Medium Red
Dragon, Large Red
Dragon, Tiny White
Dragon, Small White
Dragon, Medium White
Dragon, Large White
Dragon, Tiny Brass
Dragon, Small Brass
Dragon, Medium Brass
Dragon, Large Brass
Dragon, Small Bronze
Dragon, Medium Bronze
Dragon, Large Bronze
Dragon, Tiny Copper
Dragon, Small Copper
Dragon, Medium Copper
Dragon, Large Copper
Dragon, Medium Gold
Dragon, Large Gold
Dragon, Small Silver
Dragon, Medium Silver
Dragon, Large Silver
Dragonne
Drider
Dryad
Dwarf
Dwarf, Duergar

Eagle
Eagle, Giant
Eladrin, Bralani
Eladrin, Ghaele
Elemental, Small Air
Elemental, Medium Air
Elemental, Large Air
Elemental, Small Earth
Elemental, Medium Earth
Elemental, Large Earth
Elemental, Small Fire
Elemental, Medium Fire
Elemental, Large Fire
Elemental, Small Water
Elemental, Medium Water
Elemental, Large Water
Elf
Elf, Drow
Ethereal Filcher
Ethereal Marauder
Ettercap
Ettin

Formian Worker
Formian Warrior
Formian Taskmaster
Formian Myrmarch
Formian Queen
Fungus, Shrieker
Fungus, Violet

Gargoyle
Gargoyle, Kapoacinth
Genie, Djinni
Genie, Efreeti
Genie, Janni
Ghost
Ghoul
Ghoul, Lacedon
Ghast
Giant, Cloud
Giant, Fire
Giant, Frost
Giant, Hill
Giant, Stone
Giant, Storm
Giant Ant, Worker
Giant Ant, Soldier
Giant Ant, Queen
Giant Bee
Giant Bombardier Beetle
Giant Fire Beetle
Giant Stag Beetle
Giant Praying Mantis
Giant Wasp
Gibbering Mouther
Girallon
Githyanki
Githzerai
Gnoll
Gnome
Gnome, Svirfneblin
Goblin
Golem, Clay
Golem, Flesh
Golem, Iron
Golem, Stone
Gorgon
Grey Render
Grick
Griffon
Grimlock
Guardinal, Avoral
Guardinal, Leonal

Hag, Annis
Hag, Green
Hag, Sea
Halfling
Harpy
Hellhound
Hellhound, Nessian Warhound
Hippogriff
Hobgoblin
Homunculus
Horse, Heavy
Horse, Light
Horse, Heavy War
Horse, Light War
Howler
Hyena

Inevitable, Kolyarut
Inevitable, Marut
Inevitable, Zelekhut
Invisible Stalker

Kobold
Krenshar
Kuo-Toa

Lamia
Lammasu
Lammasu, Golden Protector
Leopard
Lich
Lillend
Lion
Lizard, Monitor
Lizardfolk
Locathah
Lycanthrope, Werebear
Lycanthrope, Wereboar
Lycanthrope, Wererat
Lycanthrope, Weretiger
Lycanthrope, Werewolf
Lycanthrope, Werewolf Lord
Lycanthrope, Hill Giant Dire Wereboar

Magmin
Manta Ray
Manticore
Medusa
Mephit, Air
Mephit, Dust
Mephit, Earth
Mephit, Fire
Mephit, Ice
Mephit, Magma
Mephit, Ooze
Mephit, Salt
Mephit, Steam
Mephit, Water
Merfolk
Mimic
Mind Flayer
Minotaur
Mohrg
Monstrous Centipede, Tiny
Monstrous Centipede, Small
Monstrous Centipede, Medium
Monstrous Centipede, Large
Monstrous Scorpion, Tiny
Monstrous Scorpion, Small
Monstrous Scorpion, Medium
Monstrous Scorpion, Large
Monstrous Spider, Tiny
Monstrous Spider, Small
Monstrous Spider, Medium
Monstrous Spider, Large
Mule
Mummy

Naga, Dark
Naga, Guardian
Naga, Spirit
Naga, Water
Night Hag
Nightmare
Nymph

Octopus
Octopus, Giant
Ogre
Ogre, Merrow
Ogre Mage
Ooze, Gelatinous Cube
Ooze, Gray
Ooze, Ochre Jelly
Orc
Otyugh
Owl, Giant
Owlbear

Pegasus
Phantom Fungus
Phase Spider
Phasm
Planetouched, Aasimar
Planetouched, Tiefling
Pony
Pony, War
Porpoise
Pseudodragon

Rakshasa
Rast
Ravid
Rhinoceros
Roper
Rust Monster

Sahuagin
Sahuagin Mutant
Salamander, Flamebrother
Salamander, Average
Salamander, Noble
Satyr
Sea Cat
Shadow
Shadow Mastiff
Shark, Medium
Shark, Large
Shambling Mound
Shield Guardian
Shocker Lizard
Skeleton, Human Warrior
Skeleton, Wolf
Skeleton, Owlbear
Skeleton, Troll
Skeleton, Chimera
Skeleton, Ettin
Skum
Slaad, Blue
Slaad, Death
Slaad, Green
Slaad, Grey
Slaad, Red
Snake, Constrictor
Snake, Tiny Viper
Snake, Small Viper
Snake, Medium Viper
Snake, Large Viper
Specter
Sphinx, Andro
Sphinx, Crio
Sphinx, Gyno
Sphinx, Hieraco
Spider Eater
Sprite, Grig
Sprite, Nixie
Sprite, Pixie
Squid
Stirge
Swarm, Bat
Swarm, Centipede
Swarm, Hellwasp
Swarm, Locust
Swarm, Rat
Swarm, Spider

Thoqqua
Tiger
Tojanida, Juvenile
Tojanida, Adult
Tojanida, Elder
Triton
Trogloyte
Troll
Troll, Scrag

Umber Hulk
Unicorn

Vampire
Vampire Spawn
Vargouille

Wight
Will-O-Wisp
Winter Wolf
Wolf
Wolverine
Worg
Wraith
Wraith; Dread
Wyvern

Xill
Xorn, Minor
Xorn, Average
Xorn, Elder

Yeth Hound
Yuan-ti, Pureblood
Yuan-ti, Halfblood
Yuan-ti, Abomination

Zombie, Kobold
Zombie, Human Commoner
Zombie, Troglodyte
Zombie, Bugbear
Zombie, Ogre
Zombie, Minotaur
Zombie, Wyvern
Zombie, Gray Render

393 total, 218 down, 175 to go...

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06/07/2006 8:33 PM  
Grey Render is listed twice. The second version is at the end and not crossed out.

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06/07/2006 8:44 PM  
That's a zombie.

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06/07/2006 10:28 PM  
That list is AWSOME. Keep on top of it.
If I may make a suggestion though. I think the vermin and thier sizes and the animals should be on the list.
If anything Animated Objects should be removed. Whats a Medium Animated Object mini? It could be hundreds of different things.

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06/07/2006 10:44 PM  
Wow, if you remove those which are pretty repetitive or already covered, or not worth covering, that leaves a significantly smaller list, which has some glaring omissions, however, such as most white dragons, hags, mephits, fey and many cool aquatic monsters. But many Monster Manual creatures have indeed been covered:

Angel, Solar; Archon, Lantern; Arrowhawk, Juvenile; Arrowhawk, Adult; Arrowhawk, Elder; Assassin Vine; Barghest, Greater; Basilisk, Abyssal Greater; Blink Dog; Bodak; Chaos Beast; Cloaker; Cockatrice; Darkmantle; Demon, Babau; Demon, Marilith; Demon, Succubus; Devil, Hellcat; Devil, Horned; Devil, Ice; Devil, Pit Fiend; Devourer; Digester; Dinosaur, Deinonychus; Dire Tiger; Doppleganger; Dragon, Tiny Black; Dragon, Large Black; Dragon, Medium Blue; Dragon, Small Green; Dragon, Tiny White; Dragon, Medium White; Dragon, Large White; Dragon, Tiny Brass; Dragon, Small Brass; Dragon, Large Brass; Dragon, Medium Bronze; Dragon, Tiny Copper; Dragon, Medium Copper; Dragon, Large Gold; Dragon, Small Silver; Dryad; Eagle, Giant; Eladrin, Bralani; Elemental, Small Air; Elemental, Small Earth; Elemental, Small Water; Elemental, Large Water; Ethereal Marauder; Formian Worker; Formian Taskmaster; Formian Myrmarch; Formian Queen; Fungus, Shrieker; Fungus, Violet; Genie, Janni; Gnome, Svirfneblin; Gorgon; Guardinal, Avoral; Guardinal, Leonal; Hag, Annis; Hag, Green; Hag, Sea; Hellhound, Nessian Warhound; Hippogriff; Homunculus; Howler; Inevitable, Kolyarut; Inevitable, Zelekhut; Invisible Stalker; Krenshar; Lamia; Lammasu; Lillend; Locathah; Mephit, Air; Mephit, Dust; Mephit, Earth; Mephit, Fire; Mephit, Ice; Mephit, Magma; Mephit, Ooze; Mephit, Salt; Mephit, Steam; Mephit, Water; Merfolk; Mimic; Mohrg; Naga, Guardian; Naga, Spirit; Naga, Water; Nightmare; Nymph; Ooze, Gelatinous Cube; Ooze, Gray; Owl, Giant; Phantom Fungus; Phase Spider; Pseudodragon; Rast; Ravid; Rust Monster; Salamander, Noble; Sea Cat; Shadow; Shadow Mastiff; Shield Guardian; Shocker Lizard; Skeleton, Owlbear; Skeleton, Troll; Skeleton, Chimera; Skeleton, Ettin; Skum; Sphinx, Andro; Sphinx, Crio; Sphinx, Gyno; Sphinx, Hieraco; Spider Eater; Sprite, Grig; Sprite, Nixie; Sprite, Pixie; Swarm, Bat; Swarm, Centipede; Swarm, Hellwasp; Swarm, Locust; Swarm, Rat; Thoqqua; Triton; Wraith; Dread; Xorn, Minor; Xorn, Elder; Yeth Hound; Zombie, Bugbear; Zombie, Gray Render


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06/08/2006 12:20 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by Count Dooku

If anything Animated Objects should be removed. Whats a Medium Animated Object mini? It could be hundreds of different things.



While it could be many things. It currently is nothing.
I think the animated objects could gain a lot by having a good scuplture. A dining room chair that is lunging to get someone would look pretty cool on the game table. Even better: a large aninimated gaming table miniature to put on your gaming table.

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06/08/2006 12:25 AM  
Its interesting to see how just big the list is. But while I like to see a lot of the MM minis being made, its starting to get harder and harder. As we see more products coming out featuring new stuff (some of it cool), and new adventures featuring old minis we already have but are harder to get, its not as easy for them to make all the new MM minis we need. At least thats my opinion.

As long as we get a few each set, I'm pretty happy.

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06/08/2006 12:51 AM  
If I might make a suggestion; Would you mind breaking the list apart by letter of the alphabet? That massive list, while handy, is intimidating to peruse.

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06/08/2006 1:14 AM  
The question is, will you be able to maintain this list/post and update it after each set is released =). It'd be nice to have somewhere to reference to see how many more we have to go, in order to see all the MM entries done.

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06/08/2006 2:34 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by True_Blue

The question is, will you be able to maintain this list/post and update it after each set is released =). It'd be nice to have somewhere to reference to see how many more we have to go, in order to see all the MM entries done.

It would be very easy to have stickied in the RP forum or someplace similar. He (or someone else that was willing to maintain it) could periodically update the list as new sets were released.

I also agree that separating them alphabetically would be helpful. Otherwise, it's a very nice list!

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06/08/2006 3:24 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by Can of the Cave Beer

If I might make a suggestion; Would you mind breaking the list apart by letter of the alphabet? That massive list, while handy, is intimidating to peruse.



This was the reason I missed the second listing of the gray render being a Zombie. The "zombie" portion didn't register, just the words, "Gray Render." It all bled together by the end of the list.

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06/08/2006 5:47 AM  
such a list is handy indeed, I second the request for different formatting however. for readability's sake.

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06/08/2006 6:35 AM  
How about this?
quote:
Originally posted by taliesin

O.K., here's all of the monsters sized tiny through large in the MM1. Not included is vermin, animals, and advanced creatures that don't look significantly different from the base creature (such as the Mummy/Mummy Lord). As we get these creatures confirmed for future sets, I'll continue to strike them from the list.

Achaierai
Allip
Angel, Astral Deva
Angel, Planetar
Angel, Solar
Animated Object, Tiny
Animated Object, Small
Animated Object, Medium
Animated Object, Large
Ankheg
Aranea
Archon, Lantern
Archon, Hound
Archon, Trumpet
Arrowhawk, Juvenile
Arrowhawk, Adult
Arrowhawk, Elder
Assassin Vine
Azer

Barghest
Barghest, Greater
Basilisk
Basilisk, Abyssal Greater
Beholder
Beholderkin, Gauth
Belker
Blink Dog
Bodak
Bugbear

Centaur
Chaos Beast
Chimera
Choker
Chuul
Cloaker
Cockatrice
Couatl

Darkmantle
Demon, Babau
Demon, Balor
Demon, Dretch
Demon, Hezrou
Demon, Marilith
Demon, Quasit
Demon, Succubus
Demon, Vrock
Derro
Destrachan
Devil, Barbed
Devil, Bearded
Devil, Bone
Devil, Chain
Devil, Erinyes
Devil, Hellcat
Devil, Horned
Devil, Ice
Devil, Imp
Devil, Lemure
Devil, Pit Fiend
Devourer
Digester
Dinosaur, Deinonychus
Dire Ape
Dire Badger
Dire Bat
Dire Bear
Dire Boar
Dire Lion
Dire Rat
Dire Tiger
Dire Weasel
Dire Wolf
Dire Wolverine
Doppleganger
Dragon, Tiny Black
Dragon, Small Black
Dragon, Medium Black
Dragon, Large Black
Dragon, Small Blue
Dragon, Medium Blue
Dragon, Large Blue
Dragon, Small Green
Dragon, Medium Green
Dragon, Large Green
Dragon, Medium Red
Dragon, Large Red
Dragon, Tiny White
Dragon, Small White
Dragon, Medium White
Dragon, Large White
Dragon, Tiny Brass
Dragon, Small Brass
Dragon, Medium Brass
Dragon, Large Brass
Dragon, Small Bronze
Dragon, Medium Bronze
Dragon, Large Bronze
Dragon, Tiny Copper
Dragon, Small Copper
Dragon, Medium Copper
Dragon, Large Copper
Dragon, Medium Gold
Dragon, Large Gold
Dragon, Small Silver
Dragon, Medium Silver
Dragon, Large Silver
Dragonne
Drider
Dryad
Dwarf
Dwarf, Duergar

Eagle, Giant
Eladrin, Bralani
Eladrin, Ghaele
Elemental, Small Air
Elemental, Medium Air
Elemental, Large Air
Elemental, Small Earth
Elemental, Medium Earth
Elemental, Large Earth
Elemental, Small Fire
Elemental, Medium Fire
Elemental, Large Fire
Elemental, Small Water
Elemental, Medium Water
Elemental, Large Water
Elf
Elf, Drow
Ethereal Filcher
Ethereal Marauder
Ettercap
Ettin

Formian Worker
Formian Warrior
Formian Taskmaster
Formian Myrmarch
Formian Queen
Fungus, Shrieker
Fungus, Violet

Gargoyle
Genie, Djinni
Genie, Efreeti
Genie, Janni
Ghost
Ghoul
Ghast
Giant, Cloud
Giant, Fire
Giant, Frost
Giant, Hill
Giant, Stone
Giant, Storm
Gibbering Mouther
Girallon
Gnoll
Gnome
Gnome, Svirfneblin
Goblin
Golem, Clay
Golem, Flesh
Golem, Iron
Golem, Stone
Gorgon
Grey Render
Grick
Griffon
Grimlock
Guardinal, Avoral
Guardinal, Leonal

Hag, Annis
Hag, Green
Hag, Sea
Halfling
Harpy
Hellhound
Hellhound, Nessian Warhound
Hippogriff
Hobgoblin
Homunculus
Howler

Inevitable, Kolyarut
Inevitable, Marut
Inevitable, Zelekhut
Invisible Stalker

Kobold
Krenshar

Lamia
Lammasu
Lammasu, Golden Protector
Lich
Lillend
Lizardfolk
Locathah
Lycanthrope, Werebear
Lycanthrope, Wereboar
Lycanthrope, Wererat
Lycanthrope, Weretiger
Lycanthrope, Werewolf
Lycanthrope, Werewolf Lord

Magmin
Manticore
Medusa
Mephit, Air
Mephit, Dust
Mephit, Earth
Mephit, Fire
Mephit, Ice
Mephit, Magma
Mephit, Ooze
Mephit, Salt
Mephit, Steam
Mephit, Water
Merfolk
Mimic
Mind Flayer
Minotaur
Mohrg
Mummy

Naga, Dark
Naga, Guardian
Naga, Spirit
Naga, Water
Night Hag
Nightmare
Nymph

Ogre
Ogre Mage
Ooze, Gelatinous Cube
Ooze, Gray
Ooze, Ochre Jelly
Orc
Otyugh
Owl, Giant
Owlbear

Pegasus
Phantom Fungus
Phase Spider
Phasm
Planetouched, Aasimar
Planetouched, Tiefling
Pseudodragon

Rakshasa
Rast
Ravid
Roper
Rust Monster

Sahuagin
Salamander, Flamebrother
Salamander, Average
Salamander, Noble
Satyr
Sea Cat
Shadow
Shadow Mastiff
Shambling Mound
Shield Guardian
Shocker Lizard
Skeleton, Human Warrior
Skeleton, Wolf
Skeleton, Owlbear
Skeleton, Troll
Skeleton, Chimera
Skeleton, Ettin
Skum
Specter
Sphinx, Andro
Sphinx, Crio
Sphinx, Gyno
Sphinx, Hieraco
Spider Eater
Sprite, Grig
Sprite, Nixie
Sprite, Pixie
Stirge
Swarm, Bat
Swarm, Centipede
Swarm, Hellwasp
Swarm, Locust
Swarm, Rat
Swarm, Spider

Thoqqua
Tojanida, Juvenile
Tojanida, Adult
Tojanida, Elder
Triton
Troglodyte
Troll

Unicorn

Vampire
Vampire Spawn
Vargouille

Wight
Will-O-Wisp
Winter Wolf
Worg
Wraith
Wraith; Dread
Wyvern

Xill
Xorn, Minor
Xorn, Average
Xorn, Elder

Yeth Hound
Yuan-ti, Pureblood
Yuan-ti, Halfblood
Yuan-ti, Abomination

Zombie, Kobold
Zombie, Human Commoner
Zombie, Troglodyte
Zombie, Bugbear
Zombie, Ogre
Zombie, Minotaur
Zombie, Wyvern
Zombie, Gray Render




Great job, taliesin! I agree with Count Dooku in that you probably should add all the vermins and animals. But please keep the animated objects in your list. They would make for really cool dungeon dressing if nothing else! Don't you think having huge, gargantuan and colossal creatures in the list as well would make sense? After all, they are producing miniatures of those sizes, too. Knowing what we have and what we could wish for in upcoming products would be equally important for these. Well, that's my take on it, anyway. I would've added Lycanthrope, Hill Giant Wereboar. It doesn't resemble any other creature that much. [:)] All this may come out as negative, but I really appreciate your great list! Well done!

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06/08/2006 10:26 AM  
nice work, sticky this!

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06/08/2006 10:36 AM  
Good stuff here. This list makes me realize that they're not doing a terrible job of getting the core beasties out to us. The list of covered beasties is larger than I thought.


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06/08/2006 10:54 AM  
Moreover, the list of unfinished minis contains a lot of dragons of various sizes, as well as quite a few skeletons and zombies. I've never used a zombie wyvern, doubt its too common an occurance, and sinze zombie is a template, in theory you need a zombie for each corporeal living creature to be complete. I'd settle for uncommon large skeleton/zombie for various sizes.

Shriekers and violet fungi are also virtually identical, so I'd remove shriekers.

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06/08/2006 11:12 AM  
I origionally had it formatted the way Oyvind re-formatted it, but was worried it would be too long. I'll edit it. And yes, I intend to keep this updated. I even modified my signature, so that anyone can click on my "Champion Of" line to see how close I am to vindication.

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06/08/2006 11:13 AM  
Still some good stuff there to be made into minis but it does a nice job of showing how many classic monsters they have done.

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06/08/2006 11:16 AM  
Great list!
quote:
Originally posted by nyjastul69

This list makes me realize that they're not doing a terrible job of getting the core beasties out to us. The list of covered beasties is larger than I thought.


I'm really not sure about this analysis. In ten sets, 166 of the list have been crossed off and 148 remain. Another two knowns for Blood War have also been crossed off, taking these numbers to 168 and 146. (Apologies for any mistakes I may have made in arithmetic.)

This might make it seem as though another 10 sets might finish the job. Dig a little deeper and you see that a fairly pathetic 8 have been crossed off in WotDQ (Deinonychus, Small Black Dragon, Large Green Dragon, Small Copper Dragon, Small Fire Elemental, Golden Protector, Nightmare, Stirge) I believe. If that is the new 'norm', then it'll take another 18 sets to cross everything off the list [)].

I'll add two things to that analysis. Some people are bound to feel that producing everything on the list isn't necessary or desirable anyway. (I am not one of those people, though[:D].) As others have pointed out, the animals and vermin are not on the list - and the situation is massively worse there (no beetles, centipedes, small dogs, etc.)

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06/08/2006 11:18 AM  
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Shriekers and violet fungi are also virtually identical, so I'd remove shriekers.


Please don't do that - they are quite different, and it's not as if we've been overburdoned with fungus [)].

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06/08/2006 12:01 PM  
Well if I had to pick a top 10 want from that list I'd have to go with:

Mohrg
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06/08/2006 12:05 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by Arandae
it's not as if we've been overburdoned with fungus [)].


Just make sure to avoid storing your minis in a cool, dark environment [:D]

Nice list. The paragraph block format was about impossible to read. The new format is very streamlined and easy on the eyes [^]

10 sets to finish the MM1 = ~3 years
18 sets to finish the MM1 = ~6 years

I'd guess that 18 sets seems somewhat likelier. Considering the scope of things to cover, I'd say we've seen a pretty good scope of coverage (except for mephits).

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06/08/2006 12:26 PM  
By popular demand, animals have been added, with strikes through those we basically have (lion and dire lion are both the same size, fer instance). I'll add the vermin when I have time later.

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06/08/2006 12:33 PM  
Danger! Everything from Bear, Black on has been crossed out. I think there's a formatting error.

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06/08/2006 12:39 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by Arandae

Great list!
quote:
Originally posted by nyjastul69

This list makes me realize that they're not doing a terrible job of getting the core beasties out to us. The list of covered beasties is larger than I thought.


I'm really not sure about this analysis. In ten sets, 166 of the list have been crossed off and 148 remain. Another two knowns for Blood War have also been crossed off, taking these numbers to 168 and 146. (Apologies for any mistakes I may have made in arithmetic.)

This might make it seem as though another 10 sets might finish the job. Dig a little deeper and you see that a fairly pathetic 8 have been crossed off in WotDQ (Deinonychus, Small Black Dragon, Large Green Dragon, Small Copper Dragon, Small Fire Elemental, Golden Protector, Nightmare, Stirge) I believe. If that is the new 'norm', then it'll take another 18 sets to cross everything off the list [)].

I'll add two things to that analysis. Some people are bound to feel that producing everything on the list isn't necessary or desirable anyway. (I am not one of those people, though[:D].) As others have pointed out, the animals and vermin are not on the list - and the situation is massively worse there (no beetles, centipedes, small dogs, etc.)



The 'not doing a terrible job' should not be confused with a good or excellent job. And I am still of the opinin that the list is longer than I had thought it would be. [)]


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06/08/2006 12:48 PM  
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Originally posted by taliesin

By popular demand, animals have been added, with strikes through those we basically have (lion and dire lion are both the same size, fer instance). I'll add the vermin when I have time later.


Thank you for adding animals and vermin.
I do not agree however in crossing out animals we "Basically have".
By that logic we could have crossed off Wolf if we got a Worg or crossed off Winter Wolf when we got a Dire Wolf.

Please dont cross off Apes and Lions until we really get them.

And I personally wouldnt cross off Nightmare and Deinonychus until we get regular unmounted ones...But I guess thats debatable. :(

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06/08/2006 12:53 PM  
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quote:
Originally posted by ehren37

Shriekers and violet fungi are also virtually identical, so I'd remove shriekers.


Please don't do that - they are quite different, and it's not as if we've been overburdoned with fungus [)].




They LOOK exactly the same though, thus no need for a different figure. You may as well request a separate figure for an orc with an axe who enjoys playing scrabble and his identical twin who hates scrabble. If theres no visual difference, they can be covered by the same figure.

There comes a time to accept something thats "close enough for government work". If we have a large ape, it counts as a dire ape and a regular ape in my book. At the very least, it should be LOW LOW priority before other creatures with unique appearances in the various monster manuals if we are just trying to get 1 of everything.

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06/08/2006 12:56 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by ehren37

quote:
Originally posted by Arandae

quote:
Originally posted by ehren37

Shriekers and violet fungi are also virtually identical, so I'd remove shriekers.


Please don't do that - they are quite different, and it's not as if we've been overburdoned with fungus [)].




They LOOK exactly the same though, thus no need for a different figure. You may as well request a separate figure for an orc with an axe who enjoys playing scrabble and his identical twin who hates scrabble. If theres no visual difference, they can be covered by the same figure.


The same could be said of Ghouls and Ghasts...Yet there are still MANY people on these boards who stubbornly say the Harbinger Ghoul is the only Ghoul that we have and the Ghast is not a resculpt.

I say let both be listed for completion's sake.

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06/08/2006 1:01 PM  
Heh, methinks you missed a [/s] somewheres in that as theres a loooot of strikeouts that we dont have yet [:P]

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06/08/2006 1:04 PM  
Oh not to be a pain..but one more thing...There are Aquatic Ghouls (Lacedons), Aquatic Ogres (Merrow), Aquatic Trolls (Scrags) and I think even Aquatic Gargoyles (dont remember) that are mentioned in the Monster Manual. They arent statted out because stats are the same but they are physically different.

They really should be added to the list.

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Oh not to be a apin..but one more thing...There are Aquatic Ghould (Lacedons), Aquatic Ogres (Merrow), Aquatic Trolls (Scrags) and I think even Aquatic Gargoyles (dont remember) that are mentioned in the Monster Manual.

They really should be added to the list.



The aquatic Gargoyles are called Kapoacinths, IIRC.

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06/08/2006 1:22 PM  
To the list with them!

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06/08/2006 2:27 PM  
For formatting, I would recommend using the strikeout like you have done only for miniatures that we have gotten an exact match for, and then use a different format for creatures that we have received a workable proxy for (i.e., Huge Black Dragon, nightmare, etc.) like making the text a different color.

Or alternatively, you could do a strikethrough in black to indicate that the mini is an exact match and a strikethrough in red to indicate that we sort of have the mini available.

Just some thoughts.

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06/08/2006 2:29 PM  
I would also like to see this same thing done with all of the other books that contain monsters so that we can monitor the progress on those books as well. MM2, MM3, MM4, Fiend Folio, Minatures Handbook, etc.

I would volunteer to maintain lists for these if taliesin does not care to do so.

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06/08/2006 2:31 PM  
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I would also like to see this same thing done with all of the other books that contain monsters so that we can monitor the progress on those books as well. MM2, MM3, MM4, Fiend Folio, Minatures Handbook, etc.

I would volunteer to maintain lists for these if taliesin does not care to do so.



Respect! I once thought to do the same, but got tired after just doing the MM. Would like to see it done properly though.

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06/08/2006 2:49 PM  
Still none crossed off my list of wants:

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What? Just because I really want Mephits, Phase Spiders and those little rabbits with the horns on their heads, doesn't mean they're making my list.[:D]

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06/08/2006 4:51 PM  
Vermin now added.

I decided to strike Lions because we have Dire Lions (etc) because I have to draw a line somewhere when it comes to figure purity. Otherwise, our Fiendish Giant Praying Mantis wouldn't count as a Giant Praying Mantis, since the mantis in the MM1 doesn't have a template applied to it in the book.

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06/08/2006 5:06 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by taliesin

Vermin now added.

I decided to strike Lions because we have Dire Lions (etc) because I have to draw a line somewhere when it comes to figure purity. Otherwise, our Fiendish Giant Praying Mantis wouldn't count as a Giant Praying Mantis, since the mantis in the MM1 doesn't have a template applied to it in the book.



I dunno..I still think theres a big difference betwen a regular animal and a Dire Animal compared to a monster and the same monster with a template.
But its your list.

Thanks for adding the vermin :)
Now dont forget to add the 4 aquatic varients! :)

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06/08/2006 5:16 PM  
this awesome.. now if we can get this sticky and if someone can update it per set. Put a sticky on them RPG Heaven!
thanks for all the work people.

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06/08/2006 8:04 PM  
Yes, many thanks!

The reformatting helps immensely.

If you're still looking for a way to differentiate between "close" and "spot on" (except for templates), I would recommend italics for things that we have that are very close (like Lion/Dire Lion) but not really matches. I would still strikethrough things like the Fiendish Giant Praying Mantis.

But that's just me.

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