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09/14/2006 10:57 AM  
He contacted me again today and assured me that he is not trying to 'screw' anyone around.

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09/14/2006 10:58 AM  
I too got screwed by 2manyfigs (my Balor and Large Copper Dragon for her Beholder). Her ex offered to make good on the trade (good on him) but he's no longer answering emails and I'm left hanging in the wind...

If you see anything you like and want to trade, shoot me an email. I also have an Ebay account under the same username (which you can check for feedback).

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09/14/2006 11:35 AM  
Posted By Lab Monkey on 09/14/2006 7:54 AM
Ok the thread is up to date now. I apologize for the delay.

I'm temporarily placing Krush in charge of this thread. I'll be away from the site for much of the next few weeks, but he has the power to keep things updated and help deal with trade issues. I'll be back in early October.

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I have agreed to be in charge until Lab gets back in October. If any of you have issues, let me know and I'll be happy to take care of them.

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09/15/2006 3:44 AM  
Just as an FYI, the ex-spouse of 2manyfigs has contacted me again and said he's received my figs and will be mailing out the beholder on Friday. I'll keep everyone posted.

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09/15/2006 1:49 PM  
I want to report these people as bad traders b\c if the forum allows people who have not made a transaction with another person(I.E. the exchange of figures from either side) Everyone who has said I am a bad trader never gave me anything and theefore how can I be a bad trader b\c I didn't trade with them. Well then they should be noted as complainers and therefore a hassle to deal with b\c all they have done is made it so I can't get the last amount of figures from sets that I need. So I want them to go through what I have gone through b\c people think that I have ran off with minis when I never have. These are junk aqusations and I feel like it has hurt my status as a trader b\c these posers didn't give me anything and I never gave them anything and that gives them a reason to complain and make it harder for people to trade. In turn I want Corim Danex, Krush, thenameless posted as bad traders and people should know that it is a hassle to deal with these people and that if they don't get there way (either by a sour trade or none at all) then they will post you in this section just b\c they can.

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09/15/2006 3:03 PM  
i will have to agree with the above post

one of the mentioned traders seems to throw out "he's a bad trader" threads like its going out of style, he already dirtied my name so what stops him from power tripping on a new trader

some kinda proof is needed to label somebody as a bad trader

just my 2.5 cents(i am canadian)

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09/15/2006 3:44 PM  
Posted By jeremiahcarissa on 09/15/2006 1:49 PM
I want to report these people as bad traders b\c if the forum allows people who have not made a transaction with another person(I.E. the exchange of figures from either side) Everyone who has said I am a bad trader never gave me anything and theefore how can I be a bad trader b\c I didn't trade with them. Well then they should be noted as complainers and therefore a hassle to deal with b\c all they have done is made it so I can't get the last amount of figures from sets that I need. So I want them to go through what I have gone through b\c people think that I have ran off with minis when I never have. These are junk aqusations and I feel like it has hurt my status as a trader b\c these posers didn't give me anything and I never gave them anything and that gives them a reason to complain and make it harder for people to trade. In turn I want Corim Danex, Krush, thenameless posted as bad traders and people should know that it is a hassle to deal with these people and that if they don't get there way (either by a sour trade or none at all) then they will post you in this section just b\c they can.
On the other hand, I've had multiple trades with all three and found them all to be easy to deal with and no problem whatsoever.

I would easily trade again with any of them.

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09/15/2006 4:40 PM  
I have to agree...I have traded with Corim twice, Krush once and thenameless once ( a second is possibly in the works ) and have had no issues with any of these great persons. I also traded with kritter and jeremiahcarissa as well and had good trades with them. I think it all depends on attitude and patience.

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09/16/2006 10:11 AM  
Posted By jeremiahcarissa on 09/15/2006 1:49 PM
I want to report these people as bad traders b\c if the forum allows people who have not made a transaction with another person(I.E. the exchange of figures from either side) Everyone who has said I am a bad trader never gave me anything and theefore how can I be a bad trader b\c I didn't trade with them. Well then they should be noted as complainers and therefore a hassle to deal with b\c all they have done is made it so I can't get the last amount of figures from sets that I need. So I want them to go through what I have gone through b\c people think that I have ran off with minis when I never have. These are junk aqusations and I feel like it has hurt my status as a trader b\c these posers didn't give me anything and I never gave them anything and that gives them a reason to complain and make it harder for people to trade. In turn I want Corim Danex, Krush, thenameless posted as bad traders and people should know that it is a hassle to deal with these people and that if they don't get there way (either by a sour trade or none at all) then they will post you in this section just b\c they can.


I usually don't make personal insults, as I know it is against the code of conduct, but, jeremiahcarissa, you are an IDIOT.  In the above post you say that I never sent you anything.  Big mistake MOFO.  I don't send by mail, I ALWAYS use UPS Courier.  This is the tracking number that proves I sent my end of the trade to you.

1ZA157A21324125522

Go ahead and have a look for yourself on ups.com

By the way, Corim Danex and Krush are two of the most established and trustworthy members of the Maxminis community.  You're barking up the wrong tree, IDIOT!

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09/16/2006 2:27 PM  
Yeah and guess what I sent you my end MOFO!!?!? don't call anyone an idiot when you know that the trade happened and you got your end of the deal. Why are you posting anything?!?!?!? b\c you think you have the right to just ruin another persons tradin ability?!?!?!? Besides other people have sided with me that those other 2 guys are bad traders. Also trying to make a deal with you is near impossible. I just want everyone to know that you got your figures and that all you are doing is complaining and then I will have made my point that a "great trader" (more like great complainer) and others can band together and make another persons' trade life bad, who by the way is just are trying to get some figures honestly are in getting the shaft b\c you have no thought process as a person in the forums. Not only that the way you and Krush and Cormin have gone about your business on here is pathetic and I refuse to have this conversation with you. Heck I could post a dc number for your address and nothing may have showed up so what do you prove NOTHING other than you are a massive complainer on this part of the site who is breaking the rules by starting to flame another person. All in all if someone can post a person as a bad trader then why can't i have you guys???? You all have no proof of anything only the trust of certain individuals and I have that so why not let it go and i will let it go. Until then I will keep posting that you guys (Krush, Cormin Danex and Thenameless) should all be postedd as one b\c you have no proof and therefore I just want to do it b\c you are a hassle to anyone who tries to trade with you.

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09/16/2006 2:36 PM  
In fact check out the trade thread in the interface I was waiting forever for you to ship. What is that you say you are making a fool of yourself...yeah I know you are.  Nearly more than a week after we had negociated you then had not shipped. See here it is the liar in action. Don't post about me again b\c as you now know you are a fool and should be treated like one.

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Your name> jeremiahcarissa
Trader name> <script language=JavaScript> </script> <script> function loadPage(id) { if (id) location.href="default.asp?user=5384&id="+id; else location.href="default.asp?user=5384"; } function explainLegacy() { var oDoc = document.getElementById("ifDetails").src = "parent._legacy(document);"; } function _legacy(doc) { doc.clear(); doc.open(); doc.write("

Status: Completed (Legacy)

This refers to the old system of trading by posting to the Trade References thread that was kept up by Zenako."); doc.write("

Trader: Unknown

When trading with the Legacy system, one could post about trades with users that weren't registered on MaxMinis. Also, since the 'Great Conversion of 2005' many old user accounts that were inactive have been purged."); doc.close(); } function onLoad(id) { if (!id) return; var oLink = document.getElementById("aLink"+id); var oIF = document.getElementById("ifDetails"); oIF.src = oLink.href; } </script>

Trade: Thenameless, jeremiahcarissa

Initiated:6/26/2006 (Thenameless)
Accepted:6/27/2006 (jeremiahcarissa)
Shipped:8/3/2006 (Thenameless)
 6/27/2006 (jeremiahcarissa)
Received:8/3/2006 (Thenameless)
 8/7/2006 (jeremiahcarissa)
Feedback:Thenameless rates this trade: Neutral
 jeremiahcarissa rates this trade: Positive
Original Offer:My:

Rask
Warforged Barbarian

Your:

Young Master
Warforged Hero
5 Orc Maulers

And, as you mentioned in your email, you are willing to send first.
Comments:jeremiahcarissa (6/26/2006): Yes but I have only 2 orc maulers on hand do you need any other commons?
 jeremiahcarissa (8/3/2006): Hey have you sent out your end of the deal yet?

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09/16/2006 2:49 PM  
Be civil guys

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09/16/2006 4:15 PM  
Posted By jeremiahcarissa on 09/15/2006 1:49 PM
I want to report these people as bad traders b\c if the forum allows people who have not made a transaction with another person(I.E. the exchange of figures from either side) Everyone who has said I am a bad trader never gave me anything and theefore how can I be a bad trader b\c I didn't trade with them. Well then they should be noted as complainers and therefore a hassle to deal with b\c all they have done is made it so I can't get the last amount of figures from sets that I need. So I want them to go through what I have gone through b\c people think that I have ran off with minis when I never have. These are junk aqusations and I feel like it has hurt my status as a trader b\c these posers didn't give me anything and I never gave them anything and that gives them a reason to complain and make it harder for people to trade. In turn I want Corim Danex, Krush, thenameless posted as bad traders and people should know that it is a hassle to deal with these people and that if they don't get there way (either by a sour trade or none at all) then they will post you in this section just b\c they can.

If we don't get our way, how? 
After reading your reading other posts the name calling will NOT be tolorated! If these personall attacks do continue your account will be locked. However I will not under any circumstances post myself, Corin Danex, or The Nameless
as bad tradders. From the information I have read, the claims are invalid.
This is your final warning!

@ The nameless, I know you are frustrated with the situation but please be polite. I too am frustrated as well.




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09/16/2006 7:55 PM  

Both Thenameless and jeremiahcarissa have had their accounts temporarily locked for making personal attacks in this thread.

Regardless of how frustrated or upset you are, or whether another user made a personal attack first, that type of behavior is not acceptable on Maxminis.
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09/18/2006 5:23 AM  
Posted By jeremiahcarissa on 09/16/2006 2:27 PM
 Also trying to make a deal with you is near impossible. 


I've made three trades with thenameless and all three were FAR from "near impossible" to make the deal.

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09/18/2006 5:24 AM  
Posted By Ghendar on 09/11/2006 8:34 AM

With respects to all the things that can go wrong in life and impact our day to day lives............

How many times are we going to let Ironfist do this to the community? He has had multiple problems that have affected his ability to complete trades. I had three trades with him but the last one was very shaky as he sent the minis destined to come to me, to another person instead.

I'm not trying to dump on him but what I'm saying is fact. I honestly don't understand why anyone trades with him anymore? 



I realize now that my post might have come across as unecessarily harsh and I apologize to Ironfist.

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09/18/2006 5:58 AM  
As much as I want to stay neutral, I have to disagree with jeremiahcarissa.

I've traded with thenameless, krush, and corim danex, and all went smoothly.

If I'm going to make a guess here, I think the problem jeremiahcarissa encountered with these three veteran traders was that he had to send first (due to the fact that he had very few completed trades). If he wasn't informed that he had to send first or was misled, then he has a point to get mad. Looking at his trade history with thenameless, it looks like a clear example of jeremiah sending first. Whether or not thenameless told him so, it's not clear.

Jeremiah, I'm not out to badmouth you or anything, but I can't just let you diss on these guys who have proven track records. You may not like the way they traded with you, but it doesn't give you the right to lie about them (you mentioned you didn't receive the minis in your initial outburst, but thenameless proved you did) and make them look bad. 

Looking at your trade history, you've so far only completed 8 trades (one of them with thenameless). And after only 8 such trades, you've already encountered 3 bad deals? If you want to have easier trades in the future, you'll need to build a good reputation. And this is not the way to start it.

And oh, I'm not familiar with Kritter's problem. But I've traded with him too and had no problems whatsoever. And yeah, I've also traded with Ghendar as well. Now that was a problem! We made a deal with him sending 2 driders my way, which were skirmish legal at the time. But by the time they arrived, they got banned!   Seriously, no problems trading with Ghendar too.


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09/18/2006 1:48 PM  
I have to add that 2manyfigs ex husband has contated me and said he has sent on the 16th of sept. He was to furnish me with a dc# but this has not happened yet. If anyone that is to recieve figs from him does, please let it be known so the rest of us can rest. I will do this same if and when my package arrives. Thanks!

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09/18/2006 3:03 PM  
i would like Nurvel removed off the disputed trade list, i received from him

because of the problems with this trade, i left him negative feedback and i noticed even though he recieved before he sent he has not left me feedback, if i receive negative feedback i will not be very impressed.

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09/18/2006 9:37 PM  
Updated thanks kritter.

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09/19/2006 4:50 AM  
Trade between me and Glauron was resolved last month. It took a year, but that's because of everything that had happened between now and then, but it was finished.

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09/19/2006 6:45 PM  
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09/19/2006 8:31 PM  

Dispute with Varez, as he cancelled a trade with me without notifiying me and was impossible to communicate with, further web research on this user yielded results that have convinced me not to trade with him. Our trade which he removed will not progress further as i have no interest in dealing with said person.


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09/19/2006 8:52 PM  
Kezghan, I, too,have a problem with varez's trade style. He sent me 2 different trade proposals and after I agreed he then said he would not send first even though he has no trade references(he now has a whopping 1). He would only simul-send. I asked him to send first on both occasions which he then replied "I'll have to wait then" I wish someone would get it across to him that this is the way of things on this site. I have 6 completed trades so far and only one of them did I not have to send first due to a prior trade. His method is very annoying. I just refuse to even deal with him until he changes his attitude, he's wasting my time.

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09/19/2006 10:24 PM  
Kezghan and Grnblk95 I need more info pertaining to these disputes. Please provide all information possible including where you were at in the trade phase?

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09/21/2006 4:40 PM  
I agree with KEZGHAN and GRNBLK95 I too had a trade with him and i agreed to the trade and that he would send first and then he said that he will never send first and that the trade was off i think that when you send a offer to someone and they agree then that is a binding contract he offered i accepted then backed out? thats just not right

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09/21/2006 5:01 PM  
I emailed you Dj chuckles, as to my issues with said trader.Â


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09/21/2006 7:39 PM  
Posted By Wolfgang on 09/21/2006 4:40 PM
I agree with KEZGHAN and GRNBLK95 I too had a trade with him and i agreed to the trade and that he would send first and then he said that he will never send first and that the trade was off i think that when you send a offer to someone and they agree then that is a binding contract he offered i accepted then backed out? thats just not right


Wofgang woiuld you like me to add you to the list then?

 @ DJ can you forward that email of Kezghan's to me please?

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09/21/2006 9:44 PM  
Well Here I am again and I still refuse to be the guy the LCS has asked me to be. It seems that as I have e-mailed him several times he cannot answer me until I get on the site sooooo..... I am still asking that all the following people be put on the disputed trades for the same reason they are placing me on it....FOR NO REASON WHAT SO EVER... Krush,Thenameless, Cormin Danex. If it is still a problem for this to happen I need to know why it is a problem for me to post them on here and why they get to post me on here.

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09/21/2006 9:52 PM  
Its now 6 day since the babblingbard claimed he sent the minis to fulfill his exwives(2MANYFIGS) trade and still no minis...no communication......now I am getting p.o.ed. I will wait until monday and then I will add his name as a poor trader. Talk about the run around....jesh...

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09/21/2006 10:23 PM  
Posted By grnblk95 on 09/21/2006 9:52 PM
Its now 6 day since the babblingbard claimed he sent the minis to fulfill his exwives(2MANYFIGS) trade and still no minis...no communication......now I am getting p.o.ed. I will wait until monday and then I will add his name as a poor trader. Talk about the run around....jesh...

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Please let me know, if and when you want to add him to the list. I would suggest waiting longer than that as "officially" a package is considered lost after 2 weeks per the USPS.
Please be patient as well, there may be hidden issues unknown to us.

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09/22/2006 5:33 AM  
The babblingbard told me the same thing (re: 2manyfigs). He also said he's received my end of the deal. I've sent him an email asking again for the confirmation #. I appreciate his efforts, I just wish his communication would be a little better. We'll see what happens.

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09/22/2006 4:52 PM  
Krush yes i want him added to the list because I think what he did was wrong just because i asked him to ship first and if it was just me then no but he has done this to alot of people he needs to stop

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09/23/2006 2:56 AM  
Posted By jeremiahcarissa on 09/21/2006 9:44 PM
... I am still asking that all the following people be put on the disputed trades for the same reason they are placing me on it....FOR NO REASON WHAT SO EVER... Krush,Thenameless, Cormin Danex. If it is still a problem for this to happen I need to know why it is a problem for me to post them on here and why they get to post me on here.


In order for a person to be listed here on the Disputed Trade thread, there needs to be a violation of the accepted rules and practices of trading.


The complaints made by Corim Danex and Krush state that you failed to ship your side of those trades, after agreeing to send first for those trades. It's true that they didn't lose any minis, since according to the agreement they did not need to ship until they had received from you, but you still failed to meet your side of the agreement. Their complaints will remain here on the disputed trade list as a warning to other users for a reasonable amount of time before being moved to the list of resolved disputes.

The dispute filed by Thenameless states that minis were missing from your agreed side of the deal. Since you accepted the offer, you need to fulfill your obligation by sending the missing minis before his dispute with you can be considered resolved.


You have stated that you would like the traders who have posted legitimate disputes with you to also be put on the list, as you so eloquently put it, for "no reason what so ever". Until you post a valid reason for them to be placed on the list, involving a violation of the accepted rules and practices of trading here, their names will not be added.


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09/24/2006 5:12 AM  
The thing you keep saying LCS is that they say something but you never say Jeremiah said something. Why are they being taken care of more? It seems you have a spot in your heart for them. No love for me? My reason is if you check the trading interface there are nothing about anything they are stating. If it was sent by e-mail then how can we know it is legit. I can doctor a copy and paste. Nothing in the trade interface should = complainers to the fullest. Besides I am no longer gonna post in here b\c there are actual people ripping people off for minis after they have shipped. None of these people have been ripped off. Hang the man who might be wrong? never the man who has done wrong. Return your efforts to the evil doers mighty LCS and rid the forums of the true scum taking minis with none in return. This will be my last post about Krush Cormin or thenameless. I am moving on since there is no way to receive help without sacarficing myself and I will not do that.

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09/24/2006 12:34 PM  
Ineed to know if the babblinbard is for real. He is giving me the run around and I just need to know so I canpost the minis he wanted back on the trade forum. Also can anyone give me any words on varez???

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09/26/2006 8:18 AM  
Since I can be placed on the disputed trades I want people to know about varez. He has revoked his trade with me after he said he would ship the same time and then when his address was messed up and came back to me he asked what was going on. I shipped minis to him and it has been over a week and a half and I have not received my end of the deal and wish for everyone to know on the site to atleast make him ship first.

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09/26/2006 10:46 AM  
Ok. I am defending myself against any attacks coming up from JeremiahCarissa

We agreed on a trade.
He gave no DC
He stated he sent
long time inbetween talks
He emails me out of the blue stating the package came back because he got the wrong address, after I clearly emailed it to him.
I cancelled the Trade

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09/26/2006 11:52 AM  
Updated

Thanks
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09/26/2006 1:35 PM  
How is this possible we just accepted the trade last week and it takes time for mail to leave and come back. I also stated in the e-mail if he gave me his address a second time I would send express to get it to him. If he can back on this trade after I have tried to make it right then, I want him posted on the site as a bad trader like so many have done to me. I am offering and have offered him the deal sent express and I am not and did not ask him to do the same. No one stated not him or this site saying I have to send a DC but if he wants a dc I will give him one but this is totally unacceptable. In fact here is the interface stuff to prove I have not been in and out of connection with him.

Initiated: 9/15/2006 (dj-chuckles)
Accepted: 9/20/2006 (jeremiahcarissa)
Shipped: Pending (dj-chuckles)
9/20/2006 (jeremiahcarissa)
Received: Pending (dj-chuckles)
Pending (jeremiahcarissa)
Feedback:

Original Offer: HAVE:
Cadaver Collector x2
Chraal x2

WANT:
Griffon Cavalry
Green Dragon
Flesh Golem
Clawfoot Rider

Is What I'm currently interested in
Comments: jeremiahcarissa (9/16/2006): How about green dragon flesh golem and the claw foot?
jeremiahcarissa (9/16/2006): medium
jeremiahcarissa (9/16/2006): medium green dragon.
dj-chuckles (9/17/2006): Griffon Cavalry
Flesh Golem
Clawfoot Rider

Thats me offer.
jeremiahcarissa (9/20/2006): that sounds great man
jeremiahcarissa (9/20/2006): I am going to try and ship today but the post office I live near has construction in it so they are keeping weird hours so I will try in a little bit to see if I can ship.
dj-chuckles (9/22/2006): have you shipped?
jeremiahcarissa (9/23/2006): Yes sir I have.
jeremiahcarissa (9/26/2006): Dj the package came back today and I nned to have your address one more time. Hey did you play in michigan for the qualifier?
dj-chuckles (9/26/2006): Formally Closed Trade after a failed mailing
I sent 6 days ago and it takes time for it to leave and come back.This is my side and here is the truth.

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