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The Mighty jai Commander
 3235 Posts



 | | 06/26/2006 2:36 PM |
| Ok folks, I was hoping to post last Friday, but things got busy and well, here I am. As many of you know, I have been hinting at some great things to come with the site for awhile now. Frankly, for the last 6 months or so, most of my *great things* have been merely fixing issues that crop up. MaxMinis needs an upgrade, we all know this.
Hordelings, has always been the DDM site that set the bar for tools. Hordelings had a better H/W List, so I upgraded ours. Their stats data were better, so I fixed ours. Hordelings had a trade interface, so I wrote a much better one for him; err, I mean, I wrote one for us after many requests. Since the trade interface moonlighting, Kevin and I have kept in contact on a fairly regular basis about coordinating data and features between the two sites to keep things consistent for the many users that frequent both (as well as lightening the load on each of us).
In the last month, Chris Groves, Kevin Tatroe and I have put together a plan for the future of both sites. We feel that the community is not only ready for 2.0, but they *need* 2.0. We looked at many options, and we felt that instead of competing against Hordelings for better tools, why not incorporate Hordelings' better tools. There you have it, yes I said it. We are proposing that MaxMinis and Hordelings merge into a new super site as version 2.0. How can it not succeed!!! The wonderful people and community and support that we have here at MaxMinis, and the beautiful site and tools that are what *is* Hordelings. Then, instead of Kevin and I fighting each other for setting the bar on tools, we can coordinate to bring you all more tools, better tools, faster.
This is part of the reason for my lack of serious involvement here at MaxMinis since my great migration west. I have been working out details and plans with Kevin, Chris, and WebMaster to see if (then when) this possible merger would/could take place. We even have a discussion in the Admin Forums here going to work out any kinks that the other Admin/Mods feel might crop up, or might cause grief (they have been the voice of the public, keeping we the designers grounded). We are doing what we can to make sure you all stay happy! I felt it would be bad form (and a waste of time) to continue to patch holes and build interim tools, when a whole new suite of goodies was on the horizon.
And there you have it, our plans for 2.0 as they currently exist. Discussions at the highest level are taking place, and I will let you all know of developments as they arise.
Randal, aka Jai "The Mighty" | | | |
| ktatroe Sergeant
 564 Posts




 | | 06/26/2006 2:39 PM |
| I just wanted to follow on to what Jai's (finally!) spilled the beans on to give a bit of details on our technical plan:
1. Keep the best: Chris, Jai, and I went over every feature (down to the most incredible nit-picky detail) on both sites and identified the "best" of everything. The new site would be exactly that -- any place where the two sites overlap, we chose the better of the two, even if doing so is harder.
2. Improve the rest: We also identified several things we could improve even during the chaos of figuring out a merger. We aren't ready to announce them yet, because as soon as we do, we'll become responsible for implementing them. [:)]
3. Import everything: One of my mandates -- and I've probably driven Jai crazy with this -- is that we can't lose anything. One of the biggest problems with Maxminis in recent months has been database crashes, deleting posts in a vain effort to keep the size under control, and so on. The plan calls for bringing everything over, including as much archives as we can get our hands on (yes, this means, merging users that exist in both, etc., not just posts). However, not just from a technical end, we want to import the cultures as well so that users do not feel alienated, no matter whether they come from Hordelings, from MaxMinis, or are new.
4. Plan to stay alive: This is one area we can't yet talk about specifics directly, but you should know that everyone involved is keenly aware that we, as a steering committee (if you'll indulge us the moniker) need to find a way to keep the site alive, which means the "m"-word. We've listened to a lot of ideas, and have taken them all to heart. Again, it'd be premature to talk specifics, but one thing you should know is that we universally and immediately rejected any sort of "for pay" site. No matter the future, Hordelings and Maxminis are dedicated to staying completely open to non-paying users.
| | H/W: http://www.hordelings.com/frontend/profiles/profile.php?user=ktatroe | |
| zephyrstorm Sergeant
 528 Posts




 | | 06/26/2006 3:20 PM |
| Ooh, looks nifty! As far as domains go, will both the hordelings and maxminis domains be pointing to the same site then after the merger? Or will one of the domains just get dropped? Just slightly curious for branding issues, if it'll be branded one way or the other (or skin dependant on which domain you're viewing...), so as to not alienate any of the users who've grown attached to one site.
I'll be talking with jai for incorpoarting some new EC tools as well once the site is developed. Though if you guys want/need another developer, even if it's to just look over specifications, drop me a line.
Thanks again for the update! | | Champion of the Hellwasp Swarm New subscriber to rule #0: bshugg is always right. | |
| PatEllis15 Commander
 4462 Posts




 | | 06/26/2006 3:24 PM |
| Hrm....
Well, thanks for the updates guys!
Merging both without loosing "anything", well, lets just say I'm glad I'm not responsible for that piece of work!
Here is my only real commentary: I always thought that Hordelings had some good tools, but I found it difficult in hte least to read the forum's. I recognize that the Forum's here are "ugly" in a visual way, but they are simple, and they WORK. I don't know the technical jargon of the difference between the two types of forum's (and I'll be honest, I haven't visited Hordlings in a little while, so I apologise if things have changed...). If you view the forum's at Enworld.org, I think that that is a model that we should ahve. It adds visually to what we have at MaxMini's, but functions in a VERY similar fashion.
I'll close by offering again to cut a check (or use PayPal) with a donation if it is useful by any of you to get the right software,or pay for the right bandwith/server for 2.0 to happen.
Pat E | | "Games evolve. Otherwise we'd still be pushing rocks around the dirt. What do you think the cavemen said when some dude showed up with sticks?" - Chairman7w | |
| ktatroe Sergeant
 564 Posts




 | | 06/26/2006 3:28 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by zephyrstorm
Ooh, looks nifty! As far as domains go, will both the hordelings and maxminis domains be pointing to the same site then after the merger?
The current plan is that every possible domain will point at 2.0, whatever that is. As far as branding goes, both sites have significant equity in their brands (to be all marketese-y), so we haven't really decided anything. Hordelings has offered to hand over its trademark to the community, but we don't yet know the state of the ownership over the name Maxminis. Both will probably be represented somehow.
Was that sufficiently vague and/or hand-wavey? That's honestly one of the hardest hurdles, silly as it seems, and it's not one we're taking lightly. Input is gratefully received!
As far as EC, Jai will be talking to you. We consider EC a critical part of Maxminis, and we don't want EC to "leave the caring wings" of 2.0, so we'll do whatever we need to to keep it around.
| | H/W: http://www.hordelings.com/frontend/profiles/profile.php?user=ktatroe | |
|  Wrackspawn ChristopherGroves Warlord
 6093 Posts




 | | 06/26/2006 3:38 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by PatEllis15
Hrm....
Well, thanks for the updates guys!
Merging both without loosing "anything", well, lets just say I'm glad I'm not responsible for that piece of work!
Here is my only real commentary: I always thought that Hordelings had some good tools, but I found it difficult in hte least to read the forum's. I recognize that the Forum's here are "ugly" in a visual way, but they are simple, and they WORK. I don't know the technical jargon of the difference between the two types of forum's (and I'll be honest, I haven't visited Hordlings in a little while, so I apologise if things have changed...). If you view the forum's at Enworld.org, I think that that is a model that we should ahve. It adds visually to what we have at MaxMini's, but functions in a VERY similar fashion.
I'll close by offering again to cut a check (or use PayPal) with a donation if it is useful by any of you to get the right software,or pay for the right bandwith/server for 2.0 to happen.
Pat E
This has been my flag to carry as well. Hordelings looks good, but isn't as easy to use as MaxMinis. Where the buttons are, how we can link to things, etc. are not things that the user community takes lightly - and frankly they prefer the clunkier but simple style of maxminis. | | Triangle DDM Skirmish Group | My Email | 45-ish trades and counting | Stuff for Trade * * * Show your brother some love and click here * * * | |
| ktatroe Sergeant
 564 Posts




 | | 06/26/2006 3:41 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by PatEllis15
Merging both without loosing "anything", well, lets just say I'm glad I'm not responsible for that piece of work!
Did you not get that email? You are responsible for this. [)]
| | H/W: http://www.hordelings.com/frontend/profiles/profile.php?user=ktatroe | |
| The Defenestrator AesophDarkfable Warlord
 5628 Posts




 | | 06/26/2006 4:27 PM |
| Well I knew this would come eventually and I am glad for it. The biggest thing is just the forum issue for me, like Pat I have tried to navigate the forum there and end up breaking things. This might be ugly but its as simple as pie, and you can't go wrong with pie.
To the Future! | | Im out- find me on Hordelings if you want to chat. | |
| The Great Choco Monster Ghendar Warlord
 11225 Posts



 The Dark and Forbidding Lands of The Necromancer.
 | | 06/26/2006 4:31 PM |
| | This is great news guys. Keeping this secret has been challenging at times. I'm glad it's now public. [:D] | | Ghendar - Now with 51% more snark
Champion of the Spider Eater with rider. I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM How many times in life do you get to eat your own Cthulhu? - Posted By Pedro on 03/31/2008 2:29 | |
| lalato Underboss
 1546 Posts



 Urbana, IL
 | | 06/26/2006 4:37 PM |
| I've said it before... Let me know if you need anything. What I lack in php programming skills, I make up for in enthusiasm. :)
I know you guys are probably looking for some decent forum software, and I've been testing some of the more widely supported ones lately for flminis.org (a Florida regional DDM site).
phpBB - Probably the most widely used open source php/mysql based forum out there. It requires fairly extensive modding to add some features to the forum itself. If, however, you only plan to use it as a forum and you'll be building the other apps around it yourself, it is perfectly serviceable.
punBB - This is a very simple, very light forum that is pretty well made, but requires some modding unless you just want a simple maxminis-like forum.
ekinboard - visually very nice, but future support is up in the air, as the main developer (and owner of the source code) is selling all rights to the script (could be an opportunity for you guys to buy it and build from that code?)
smf - this is so far my favorite of the bunch. it has some nice features right out of the box (attachments, calendar, etc.). There is also a very simple portal/frontend (see my site flminis.org for example using the default theme).
That said, I know you guys are programming gurus, but I thought I would share what I found while looking at options for flminis.
--sam
p.s. If I didn't say it before... This is AWESOME news. :)
--sam | | I'm in Urbana, IL | |
|  Avatar of the Tank Newtoncain Commander
 2982 Posts



 Land of 10,000 taxes
 | | 06/26/2006 4:45 PM |
| Has the Federal Trade commishion approved this merger?[:p]
Great idea guys.
Whats the new name going to be?
MaxHordelings[:0] | | They just don't know what's good in life...Conan, tell them what is good in life. To rip the boosters. To count the minis spilled out before you, and to hear the indifference of the women... | |
| Felagund Sergeant
 922 Posts




 | | 06/26/2006 4:49 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by lalato
I've said it before... Let me know if you need anything. What I lack in php programming skills, I make up for in enthusiasm. :)
There has been a lot of pie talk lately. How are your baking skills? [)] | | Champion of Gnomes | |
| Dordledum Commander
 3189 Posts



 Netherlands
 | | 06/26/2006 4:50 PM |
| Thumbs up and succes with all the work coming up, anything like a date when this will come to pass?
D. | | Member of the Bearded Devils Champion of the Huge Spider (WotDQ 46/60), A New Umber Hulk (DoDe 57/60), and Hardcopy Printed DDM 2.0 Stat-Cards for all Minis! | |
| ktatroe Sergeant
 564 Posts




 | | 06/26/2006 5:02 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Dordledum
Thumbs up and succes with all the work coming up, anything like a date when this will come to pass?
"Soon, we hope" is the only good answer we can give at this point. From a technical perspective, we're real, real close, but there are non-technical things to finish, as well.
| | H/W: http://www.hordelings.com/frontend/profiles/profile.php?user=ktatroe | |
| Vash Underboss
 1995 Posts




 | | 06/26/2006 9:14 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Newtoncain
Has the Federal Trade commishion approved this merger?[:p]
Great idea guys.
Whats the new name going to be?
MaxHordelings[:0]
www.hordeminis.com
"We Horde Minis!"
| | Champion of the Alhoon and my called shot for Unhallowed Blood War Called Shot: Phoenix Trade withe me! | |
| ktatroe Sergeant
 564 Posts




 | | 06/26/2006 9:50 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Vash
www.hordeminis.com
I like that enough that I registered it, just in case. [:)]
| | H/W: http://www.hordelings.com/frontend/profiles/profile.php?user=ktatroe | |
| sienar Sergeant
 636 Posts




 | | 06/26/2006 10:20 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Felagund
quote: Originally posted by lalato
I've said it before... Let me know if you need anything. What I lack in php programming skills, I make up for in enthusiasm. :)
There has been a lot of pie talk lately. How are your baking skills? [)]
my baking skills = good my programming skills = nonexistant
This is good news.
Hordelings forums have always been (significantly) lower volume, and the interface worked well for that, especially the most recent version. The layout of maxminis forums is easy, but does it have to be so dull looking? ;) | | [http://www.hordelings.com/frontend/profiles/profile.php?user_id=22] | |
| Can of the Cave Beer Commander
 2838 Posts




 | | 06/26/2006 10:52 PM |
| New name?
hordeminis maxlings hordemaxlingsminis maxhordeminislings hordemaxminislings maxhordelingsminis thehorde (I wonder if that's even available) thehoard theminishorde (or hoard)
Well, if any of those sound good, you're welcome to them. Just remember, you get what you pay for. [)] | | Champion of the Werewolf Lord, Knight of Anything Duergar, and Squire of Things Gnollish List reset with the start of previews for each new set...got Chainmail®? | |
| synecdoche Warrior
 252 Posts




 | | 06/26/2006 11:28 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by ChristopherGroves This has been my flag to carry as well. Hordelings looks good, but isn't as easy to use as MaxMinis. Where the buttons are, how we can link to things, etc. are not things that the user community takes lightly - and frankly they prefer the clunkier but simple style of maxminis.
If I could throw in my 2 cents ... I always thought that Maxminis had a superior interface because it was simpler and cleaner. Hordelings has a lot more eye-candy and a lot more html objects are served up on every page (and I assume a more sophisticated back end). But, frankly maxminis is (when it isn't crashing) faster and cleaner, and that makes it a better interface.
Let me echo PatEllis, ENWorld is a great example of a site that's managed to keep a fairly simple and clean interface.
-Synecdoche
PS I'm also willing to kick in some bucks to keep maxminis going if it would help.
| | Champion of the Green Hag | |
|  Zenako Commander
 3468 Posts




 | | 06/26/2006 11:55 PM |
| The mod/admin discussions have been focused mainly on the look/feel of the site for the past few weeks, versus the backoffice details that Jai/Kevin/Chris have been trying to resolve.
Interestingly, from a bandwidth point it looks like the current Hordeling pages are slightly more compact than the current maxmini pages, even with the "eye candy".
The other big difference is that in the forums here, you have basically the entire frame/page filled with the text, with no sidebars or other frames taking away real estate, which focuses the interface on just the posts. Does make some of the navigation a bit more crude, but that is being worked.
Any and all thoughts are welcome. | | Built the addition for this addiction, now on to the "gaming table" project.... http://www.maxminis.com/hw_list.asp?user=Zenako last updated 29 May 2006 Set Status: in a nutshell = all of all In Process trades 0), (Sig last updated 05/29/06) 300 plus Completed Trades -
If I seem scarce at times...blame DDO - Sarlona | |
| Can of the Cave Beer Commander
 2838 Posts




 | | 06/27/2006 12:32 AM |
| Personally, I really enjoy the "no frills" attitude that maxminis provides. When I first started my account over at hordelings, I was forever trying to get from one place to the next and never quite remembering how I got there the last time. Finally, I just gave up.
maxminis has always been pretty straight-forward, and I really appreciate that. I visit maxminis from work as often as time allows during the work day, and would very much like 2.0 to stay "under the radar" as maxminis has. It allows me to "de-stress" at times and it saves me time at night when I can actually do my posting.
I think K.I.S.S. principals should apply at all times. Some of us old folks aren't as quick on the uptake as we used to be! [)] | | Champion of the Werewolf Lord, Knight of Anything Duergar, and Squire of Things Gnollish List reset with the start of previews for each new set...got Chainmail®? | |
| Venport Sergeant
 738 Posts




 | | 06/27/2006 2:26 AM |
| Aslong as the community moves I'm good to go... I'm also happy that jai can finaly tell the world about this and I will support it 100%
Thanks everyone and let me know if there is any way i can help with the huge change | | Sacramento DDM http://www.maxminis.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=16854
New world Project http://www.maxminis.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=20745
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| The Great Choco Monster Ghendar Warlord
 11225 Posts



 The Dark and Forbidding Lands of The Necromancer.
 | | 06/27/2006 6:52 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by Can of the Cave Beer
Personally, I really enjoy the "no frills" attitude that maxminis provides. When I first started my account over at hordelings, I was forever trying to get from one place to the next and never quite remembering how I got there the last time. Finally, I just gave up.
maxminis has always been pretty straight-forward, and I really appreciate that.
Agreed. I've heard Maxminis described as clunky at times, but I think it's quite simple and easy to use.
Functionality over eye candy. | | Ghendar - Now with 51% more snark
Champion of the Spider Eater with rider. I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM How many times in life do you get to eat your own Cthulhu? - Posted By Pedro on 03/31/2008 2:29 | |
| Vash Underboss
 1995 Posts




 | | 06/27/2006 7:30 AM |
| | But what if it were functional eyecandy? | | Champion of the Alhoon and my called shot for Unhallowed Blood War Called Shot: Phoenix Trade withe me! | |
|  Wrackspawn ChristopherGroves Warlord
 6093 Posts




 | | 06/27/2006 8:09 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by Zenako
The mod/admin discussions have been focused mainly on the look/feel of the site for the past few weeks, versus the backoffice details that Jai/Kevin/Chris have been trying to resolve.
Interestingly, from a bandwidth point it looks like the current Hordeling pages are slightly more compact than the current maxmini pages, even with the "eye candy".
The other big difference is that in the forums here, you have basically the entire frame/page filled with the text, with no sidebars or other frames taking away real estate, which focuses the interface on just the posts. Does make some of the navigation a bit more crude, but that is being worked.
Any and all thoughts are welcome.
You're overselling my contribution [p] Mostly what I've been saying is "eh ... the mods will want to lock threads" ... and other equally content-rich comments.
Mostly all I've done "behind the scenes" is send out reminder emails to the webmaster/jai/ktatroe every time the site goes down, every time someone starts spamming again and every time someone posts something about the future of maxminis.
My name is Mr. Catalyst. | | Triangle DDM Skirmish Group | My Email | 45-ish trades and counting | Stuff for Trade * * * Show your brother some love and click here * * * | |
| The Great Choco Monster Ghendar Warlord
 11225 Posts



 The Dark and Forbidding Lands of The Necromancer.
 | | 06/27/2006 9:22 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by Vash
But what if it were functional eyecandy?
That's crazy talk. You're crazy!
Seriously though, functional eye candy would be the best of both worlds. [:D]
quote: Originally posted by ChristopherGroves My name is Mr. Catalyst.
I thought it was Wrackspawn? [)] | | Ghendar - Now with 51% more snark
Champion of the Spider Eater with rider. I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM How many times in life do you get to eat your own Cthulhu? - Posted By Pedro on 03/31/2008 2:29 | |
| PatEllis15 Commander
 4462 Posts




 | | 06/27/2006 9:25 AM |
| Let me expound upon my earlier statement for just a moment:
the current "structure" of MaxMinis is what works. You can add some eye-candy, just don't take away from the basics. The Simple file structure works. We can have all the top level forum/folders visible, and jump into those we want to view. Simiarly, if I had no interest in SWM and AAM, I can minimize those two sections so that I don't see the subforums.
Keep things near the top, but allow us to modify what we view. I DON'T want to dig 4 levels down to get to the Skirmish forum. Likewise, I don't need seperate forums for 100, 200, 500, and nonstandard skirmish. Fewer=better. That said, while I didn't support the formation of the "tournaments" forum, it is now one of the top 3 parts of the site that I visit (general and skirmish being the other parts of the top 3).
There will be times when we need to add, but I would encourage it to be horozontal, not vertical.
Pat E | | "Games evolve. Otherwise we'd still be pushing rocks around the dirt. What do you think the cavemen said when some dude showed up with sticks?" - Chairman7w | |
| zephyrstorm Sergeant
 528 Posts




 | | 06/27/2006 9:45 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by Ghendar
quote: Originally posted by Vash
But what if it were functional eyecandy?
That's crazy talk. You're crazy! Seriously though, functional eye candy would be the best of both worlds. [:D]
In all actuality, it's quite easy to get something functional and that looks great. It's just about using small images that you can have the browser tile along a space for you, or utilize stylesheets instead of images. I'm hoping for something a little spicier than maxminis's current skin, myself. Wouldn't be that hard to have the best of both worlds. | | Champion of the Hellwasp Swarm New subscriber to rule #0: bshugg is always right. | |
|  Zenako Commander
 3468 Posts




 | | 06/27/2006 11:10 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by PatEllis15
Let me expound upon my earlier statement for just a moment:
the current "structure" of MaxMinis is what works. You can add some eye-candy, just don't take away from the basics. The Simple file structure works. We can have all the top level forum/folders visible, and jump into those we want to view. Simiarly, if I had no interest in SWM and AAM, I can minimize those two sections so that I don't see the subforums.
Keep things near the top, but allow us to modify what we view. I DON'T want to dig 4 levels down to get to the Skirmish forum. Likewise, I don't need seperate forums for 100, 200, 500, and nonstandard skirmish. Fewer=better. That said, while I didn't support the formation of the "tournaments" forum, it is now one of the top 3 parts of the site that I visit (general and skirmish being the other parts of the top 3).
There will be times when we need to add, but I would encourage it to be horozontal, not vertical.
Pat E
Echoing some of the mod discussions exactly...flat vs vertical. Specific look / feel comments like this are what designers can get their fingers around when creating the composite site. | | Built the addition for this addiction, now on to the "gaming table" project.... http://www.maxminis.com/hw_list.asp?user=Zenako last updated 29 May 2006 Set Status: in a nutshell = all of all In Process trades 0), (Sig last updated 05/29/06) 300 plus Completed Trades -
If I seem scarce at times...blame DDO - Sarlona | |
| *censored* glumag Warlord
 5968 Posts




 | | 06/27/2006 11:15 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by AesophDarkfable
Well I knew this would come eventually and I am glad for it. The biggest thing is just the forum issue for me, like Pat I have tried to navigate the forum there and end up breaking things. This might be ugly but its as simple as pie, and you can't go wrong with pie.
To the Future!
hear hear! Ugly is good right now. I am turned off by hordelings layouts and gave it a try once and decided that maxminis was the one stop place for me. To be honest, their trading tools were cool but I had a hard time with the one trade I completed there, I had so many redundant entries/posts just because the interface was not clear on how to update your progress.
ugly/simple works for me. | | Trades >> Completed: 49 | Bad: Ø | Pending: 0 | Trade & talk Live on IRC! SERVER: irc.psionics.net CHANNEL: #maxminis | |
| The Defenestrator AesophDarkfable Warlord
 5628 Posts




 | | 06/27/2006 12:00 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by glumag
quote: Originally posted by AesophDarkfable
Well I knew this would come eventually and I am glad for it. The biggest thing is just the forum issue for me, like Pat I have tried to navigate the forum there and end up breaking things. This might be ugly but its as simple as pie, and you can't go wrong with pie.
To the Future!
hear hear! Ugly is good right now. I am turned off by hordelings layouts and gave it a try once and decided that maxminis was the one stop place for me. To be honest, their trading tools were cool but I had a hard time with the one trade I completed there, I had so many redundant entries/posts just because the interface was not clear on how to update your progress.
ugly/simple works for me.
Ive discussed some of this with Jai and the some other mods and I am pretty excited. They are looking out for our best interest and really looking for the best of both worlds. From what I've seen/heard, it will do well. | | Im out- find me on Hordelings if you want to chat. | |
| The Mighty jai Commander
 3235 Posts



 | | 06/27/2006 12:10 PM |
| First he says ...quote: Originally posted by AesophDarkfable
Well I knew this would come eventually and I am glad for it. The biggest thing is just the forum issue for me, like Pat I have tried to navigate the forum there and end up breaking things. ... snip ...
... then he says ...quote: ... snip ... Ive discussed some of this with Jai and the some other mods and I am pretty excited. They are looking out for our best interest and really looking for the best of both worlds. From what I've seen/heard, it will do well.
We changed the 'Darkfable's mind ... I am positive you will be pleased (after the initial shock that is [)]) | | | |
| Vash Underboss
 1995 Posts




 | | 06/27/2006 12:13 PM |
| | *beats Server McLaggypants within an inch of it's life* | | Champion of the Alhoon and my called shot for Unhallowed Blood War Called Shot: Phoenix Trade withe me! | |
| johnny.quest Underboss
 1341 Posts




 | | 06/27/2006 12:16 PM |
| | I'd like to echo those who are calling for continuing the simplicity that Maxminis offers. No offense, but Hordelings always seems dead to me, and I think that's because I can't figure out where to read anything! Also, the calendar on Maxminis is superior, as one can edit their own events. On Hordelings, once it's up, yer stuck with it. | | | |
| Omand Commander
 3118 Posts



 Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
 | | 06/27/2006 12:46 PM |
| Hello,
Count me in the simplicty camp as well. I like the set up of ENWorld as an example as well, at least for the forums. They have more sections to the site there, but the general framework is easy to navigate and find material in.
Cheers [:)] | | Successful Trades: 77 * Pending Trades: 0 * Bad Trades: KONG (B.W.) Trade History * Trading Thread * Sales Thread * Winnipeg Meetingplace | |
| johnny.quest Underboss
 1341 Posts




 | | 06/27/2006 12:52 PM |
| Maybe I'm an idiot or my computer is messed up, but I can't get stuff to work on Hordelings.
For example, I can't see beyond the first post of a thread.
"Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in /mirror/home/ktatroe/www.hordelings.com/html/frontend/forums/postView.php on line 216"
Also, the drop down lists for navigation weren't functioning. | | | |
| The Defenestrator AesophDarkfable Warlord
 5628 Posts




 | | 06/27/2006 1:21 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by johnny.quest
Maybe I'm an idiot or my computer is messed up, but I can't get stuff to work on Hordelings.
For example, I can't see beyond the first post of a thread.
"Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in /mirror/home/ktatroe/www.hordelings.com/html/frontend/forums/postView.php on line 216"
Also, the drop down lists for navigation weren't functioning.
I noticed he was doing maintence this morning, im guessing hes doing some work over there. | | Im out- find me on Hordelings if you want to chat. | |
| The Mighty jai Commander
 3235 Posts



 | | 06/27/2006 1:31 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by AesophDarkfable
I noticed he was doing maintence this morning, im guessing hes doing some work over there.
Yeah, they are fine now. | | | |
| johnny.quest Underboss
 1341 Posts




 | | 06/27/2006 2:00 PM |
| | As usual, my timing is impeccable [:P] | | | |
| xuthal Sergeant
 649 Posts



 Boulder, CO
 | | 06/27/2006 6:47 PM |
| quote:
Functionality over eye candy.
My wife no doubt ascribed to this maxim when she made the decision to marry me.
SGB | | I dance along a colored wind / Dangle from a rope of sand. / You must say goodbye to me. Positive ebay feedback (ID slithering): 620+ Trades on Hordelings.com (ID slithering): 100 to date COMPLETED TRADES (111 to date): Blackthorne; l3m; Cannith; ArchMage7 (x5); Werebat; centurius; Orion72; realmaster; nasamonkey (x3); jeremiahcarissa; blade; simage (x2); brazenwood (x2); crisisman; Anaxagoras; nurvel; kyrin (x2); Rising Dragon; ethandrul; IHawk (x6); robbdaman; rockfrd; bonelock; James the True; zyla; Ironfist Boulderbender; cyderakk; Chris Orlando; minatoman38 (x4); Aesnath; Zeb; Beware of Kobold; visage; pigsnot; qillan_dvra; SneakyJoeKDB; patio103; Thenameless (x2); grnblk95; sterling40; hazel monday (x2); Ghendar; Ghidrah47952; nixlord; marjorie; emontedodger (x2); zeoph; DNDJUNKIE; AnarionZelle; thom; Cthulhufnord; Shadroth; Wraithborne; AnarionZelle; Mr Ruffles; Ismar; Cyberia; kmelstrom; Vrecknidj (x3); Dagaron; anothermullen; Thrace; tomas; Crisisman; SodjG; AnarionZelle, Sirohk, stephengroy, koriatsar, elfinboots, Wolfgang (x2), mcross, dumdragon, dagaron, skarnn, keoki, Brucemc, vtloon, Darkfather, vanrulzz, trilistria, sfgiants, mickey mouse, Olaf the Stout, Nyarlathotep333, Kilsek (x2) and oolong TRADES IN PROGRESS: None at present | |
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