PatEllis15
Commander
4462 Posts
    
 | | 07/09/2006 9:56 PM |
| Simple question, but I think it needs to be aired out fully:
Please answer with one of 3 choices:
YES, I support advertising on MaxMinis because XYZ
NO, I don't Support advertizing on Maxminis because XYZ
I don't CARE if there are ads on this site
Thanks for your input
(if your curious why the poll is here, you should really be keeping up on things in the Forums Discussion forum...
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"Games evolve. Otherwise we'd still be pushing rocks around the dirt. What do you think the cavemen said when some dude showed up with sticks?" - Chairman7w | |
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Wayne
Underboss
1371 Posts
| | 07/09/2006 10:01 PM |
| (Note that if people answer the question in the Subject, it's not going to correlate with the answers in the topic body.)
I support advertising on Maxminis.
But ...
I have to qualify that with " ... as long as the advertisements aren't animated." Animated banners and the like are so annoying that I go out of my way not to buy the products they advertise. | |
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sleonardo
Sneak
58 Posts
| | 07/09/2006 10:03 PM |
| I support so as long as it is directly related to WOTC Miniatures.
I do not want to see anyone trying to sell me loans in Maxminis. | |
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simage
Sergeant
744 Posts
| | 07/09/2006 10:05 PM |
| | I support if it is required to keep the site going. | |
http://www.maxminis.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12270 | |
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Knight of Argenis
Corim Danex
Warlord
6621 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 07/09/2006 10:10 PM |
| I do not support advertising at maxminis. I see advertising everywhere, and one of the great things about maxminis is that there is not advertising here.
Advertising would bother me, but advertising that was not for products very close to the things the site is about would bother me even more. D&D product advertising (like Dragon magazine, D&D accessories, storage containers, etc.) would be the most tolerable. | |
"Look to God and live." Alma 37:47
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sam500
Sergeant
416 Posts
Berkeley, CA
| | 07/09/2006 10:12 PM |
| I agree completely with Wayne (in most things really).
Ads ok if necessary.
Animations will make me stop coming.
Sam | |
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johnny.quest
Underboss
1341 Posts
| | 07/09/2006 10:12 PM |
| Note how quickly this thread was moved to Forums Discussion.
I don't support advertising on Maxminis because I don't think it's necessary. | | | |
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Pegasus Knight
Sergeant
896 Posts
| | 07/09/2006 10:18 PM |
| I do not care if ads are put up, provided that:
The ads are not intrusive, in the systematical sense. If it's trying to install software on the user's PC (or will try to if you click on it), it has no place.
So long as that is adhered to, I wouldn't mind a few ads. I might actually even click a few if it genuinely helped MaxMinis.
I would also advise against any ads that utilize Shockwave Flash. Some people think animated ads are simply ugly; in the case of .swf format stuff, it can even cause a browser to lock up. That will gut attendance in a hurry. | |
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The Defenestrator
AesophDarkfable
Warlord
5628 Posts
| | 07/09/2006 11:26 PM |
| | I do not support ads. The members of this site have offered to donate on many many occasions. There are other ways and turning the site to a revenue whore isnt it. | |
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avrivah
Sneak
164 Posts
| | 07/10/2006 12:18 AM |
| I support advertising as it can make a great many things possible. Provided that said advertising is in direct relation to the subject matter of the forums, and is done tastefully, why not?
Restrict it to members or those who deal in minis. There are enough among us who sell miniatures who might not mind forking over some loot to promote their business whether it be in an ebay store or a local distributer.
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OldReferences-http://www.maxminis.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4648
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Harneloot
Sergeant
575 Posts
| | 07/10/2006 12:50 AM |
| | No, I do NOT support advertising on Maxminis. One of the great joys of this site is that there is NO ADVERTISING! | |
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WakeXX
Warlord
10131 Posts
Edinboro PA
| | 07/10/2006 4:28 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by AesophDarkfable
I do not support ads. The members of this site have offered to donate on many many occasions. There are other ways and turning the site to a revenue whore isnt it.
I agree with Aesoph,I've offered to donate cash a few times.I don't want to come to Maxminis and see flashing banner ads and pop-ups trying to sell me Pokemon cards,Viagra or to check my credit score. | | | |
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Sammael
Underboss
1881 Posts
| | 07/10/2006 5:48 AM |
| | I do not support advertising because I believe there are other solutions to the site's financing. | |
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Vash
Underboss
1995 Posts
| | 07/10/2006 7:51 AM |
| I do not support advertising on this site as I feel it is not needed.
And once again, a topic on the future of this site is moved to a place where only about a dozen people read.
So cool.... | |
Champion of the Alhoon and my called shot for Unhallowed
Blood War Called Shot: Phoenix
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sttmxn
Sergeant
461 Posts
| | 07/10/2006 7:53 AM |
| I support advertising on Maxminis. Maybe it's more accurate to say "I don't care," since I pretty much tune out all advertising anyway, but I would not feel adversely towards Maxminis' operators if they felt the need to bring in advertising, so I'll say I support it.. We are not entitled to this site, and we are certainly not entitled to its being ad-free.
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Wrackspawn
ChristopherGroves
Warlord
6093 Posts
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Lab Monkey
Commander
4135 Posts
| | 07/10/2006 9:32 AM |
| | I do not support ads at maxminis. Like others, I would be happy to donate money to keep the site running. | |
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10288 Posts
United States
| | 07/10/2006 9:51 AM |
| "The problem is choice."
I would support ads, if they were not animated, were not annoying, and were restricted to only certain forums (such as Marketplace and Trading).
I would not support ads if they were invasive, and especially if they were invasive in the General and Skirmish forums.
I think ENWorld comes pretty close to doing ads right.
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Knowledge Arcana editor issues 5-9, Phoenix Lore Magazine editor, assistant editor for Rite Publishing;
My Trade Thread and My Reference Thread; Winner of WBC IV, IX and XIII; Rule #0: bshugg is always right! | |
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Gnolaum
Sergeant
854 Posts
| | 07/10/2006 9:53 AM |
| No I don't support advertising on this site.
This is a fansite, and as such should be maintained and supported by the fans. It should not be a means of earning income for the owner. Also I'm not sure if maxminis could maintain the support that they do with WotC folks and have advertising. | |
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ilarue
Underboss
1259 Posts
| | 07/10/2006 10:13 AM |
| | I do not support ads; unless it is the only way to keep the site up and running i.e. not enough donations are coming in to keep it running. | |
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Knight of Wuzz
Wuzzard
-827 Posts
| | 07/10/2006 11:17 AM |
| The good thing about ad revenue is that it scales with use. Maxminis' community has been growing for a long time. We've just seen the latest problem with that growth in the need to move to a different server. Maxminis is the largest resource consumer of the hosting site, and within the next year will likely demand more capacity than it can deliver. Basically, we're being booted out.
We're in this pickle because everyone loves maxminis so much. Many of you have offered to help pay to keep the site going, and that's great. Yet that solution has a problem in making it sustainable. An ad solution should bring in a continual stream of money enough to cover the hosting, and its scales with additional use (even when bandwidth spikes over normal allotments - imagine costs shooting up like cell phone usage after monthly limit is passed.)
Maybe its not the right solution, but its worth exploring.
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Vash
Underboss
1995 Posts
| | 07/10/2006 11:30 AM |
| I have a feeling that if they want ads on this site, they are gonna put them on whether we want them or not. (Money talks and all that)
So if it's inevitable, have them small, out of the way, and unannoying. If I have to punch any monkies, fight popups, or lose my browsing ability at work...bye bye maxminis. | |
Champion of the Alhoon and my called shot for Unhallowed
Blood War Called Shot: Phoenix
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DrX
Sergeant
408 Posts
| | 07/10/2006 3:20 PM |
| I think I'm all three.
In principle, I am not opposed. If the webmaster who owns the site needs an income to pay for it, I understand that. It's his site, he should be able to do as he wishes.
Conceptually, speaking as a community member, I like this website, and I do not want it to change. At all. I visit every day, because I like the way it is currently. If I don't like the changes to come, I might stop coming so frequently. I might come more. I'm not sure. I believe it might actually strengthen the community to be able to donate small amounts to keep it running as is. Avoiding commercialization of the site will help keep it the way it currently is. Which is the way I like.
In reality, if all we're talking about is advertisements, then I don't care. I don't see ads when I'm using Firefox with Adblock installed. Which is now everywhere that I use a computer. I will block ads from this site and others, and I won't feel very bad about it. I don't subscribe to the logic that says that if I don't look at ads for a website that has them, or block them out, then I'm in essence doing something wrong.
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glumag
Warlord
5968 Posts
| | 07/10/2006 6:24 PM |
| I don't CARE if there are ads on this site AS LONG AS they are limited to DDM, SWM and AAM and NO POP-UPS whatsoever, otherwise I will have to be on the NO, I don't Support advertizing on Maxminis because of the reasons listen above.
It is webmaster's site and he can do what he wants with the name maxminis, a name we have helped build and make highly recognizable, just as we are free to move on and continue the community elsewhere.
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IanB
Commander
3112 Posts
| | 07/10/2006 7:32 PM |
| I don't have a problem with ads, as long as they're limited to a small banner, a la EN World.
Oh, and please, please, no sound in the ads. | |
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maineman
Sneak
90 Posts
| | 07/10/2006 9:52 PM |
| Hello
I DO NOT support ads... I think it would diminish the sight somewhat, if not a lot.
I know I am new to the maxmini sight and I am thoroughly enjoying it. I also love NOT having to deal with ads!!! It's great that way
that's my 2 pennies
Maineman | |
How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are? | |
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MerricB
Underboss
2350 Posts
Australia
| | 07/10/2006 10:04 PM |
| EN World works fine with ads. I've no problem with it.
Cheers! | |
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Kithmaker
Commander
3926 Posts
| | 07/10/2006 10:32 PM |
| I don't care if there are ads -- as long as they are neither animated nor intrusive.
I'm so used to seeing ads everywhere I just ignore them anyway.
If they bring needed revenue, I'm all for it. | |
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True_Blue
Underboss
2385 Posts
| | 07/10/2006 10:34 PM |
| | no ads for me | |
Champion of a Knight of Takhisis/Knight of Neraka | |
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PaSquall
Underboss
1395 Posts
| | 07/11/2006 9:00 AM |
| Ads would be OK for me, BUT :
- No animated/sound adds, flash, pop-ups and whatever. Only small ads (like google ads)
- Only ads linked to RPG and miniatures (possibly CRPGs)
- AND NO AD TRYING TO INSTALL SPYWARE, DIALERS OR ANYTHING ON MY COMPUTER, OR IT'S BYE-BYE.
If webmaster needs money to cover the site's costs, he should try donations before using ads. | |
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Toxic_Rat
Sergeant
745 Posts
Lehi, Utah, USA
| | 07/11/2006 10:46 AM |
| Echoing the same sentiments here. NO animations, or sound, etc. Definitely NO pop-ups.
Ads are fine, but should not be obnoxious. | |
Any time you try to make something idiot-proof, someone always goes out and invents a better idiot.
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Bert the Troll
Commander
3858 Posts
Adelaide
| | 07/12/2006 6:48 AM |
| Advertising is sometimes a necessary evil imo.
My advert blocker/web filter (proxomitron) will kill them anyhow, so personally won't make any difference.
I`m more likely to donate than click on an Ad.
It becomes a crunch for many forums, and some survive the economic necessity with community intact, others don't.
I definitely don't want the focus of the site to be revenue raising.
I also think forums discussion is the right place for this topic. | |
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robby
Sergeant
918 Posts
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robbdaman
Underboss
2380 Posts
| | 07/12/2006 9:38 PM |
| While all putting ads on the site would do for me is install AdsGone on my computer again I'm not keen on the idea. Even if I would never have to see them. Still if I logged in at other places than at home I'd hate to have flashing adds that are basically saying "CLICK THIS AD!" I hate it when sites have that kind of crap. If I was insured that it was only to make sure the site had enough revenue to run and not to put cash into the webmaster's pocket because he wants to use the site as his new cash cow then I'd be okay if it was deemed necessary to keep the site running but only in that circumstance. I'd leave in a heart beat if it does change to a hugely ad heavy site with popups and flashy ads to make him bank. Also I'd cut down on my use of the site big time if it started including tons of crap like Pokemon, Magic and Clix games. I have a feeling that would make the site more bogged down with garbage I don't want to see which would in turn make me look elsewhere.
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striderlotr
Commander
3370 Posts
| | 07/13/2006 8:23 AM |
| I'm on the fence with this one. I really don't like the adds, but if it helps...
I would want to only see banner ads and ads from gaming companies. | |
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Champion of Elementals
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MechaKingGhidra
Sergeant
632 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 12:00 AM |
| | As long as it was related specifically to the games discussed on this site, then I would deem them tolerable but they would have to be fixed onto the boards specifically designated for said games. For example, no Axis and Allies ads on the D&D related boards. Otherwise, I would not support advertising on MaxMinis. | |
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