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jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
    
Walnut Creek, CA
 | | 07/19/2006 1:18 PM |
| Recently, we've been losing people from Maxminis to other sites. This has been for a variety of reasons, and I don't want to get into a blame game, but this situation can't persist. Something needs to be done to heal the wounds and gather the community.
What we need to do is:
a.) Figure out who the main players are in the DDM community.
b.) Get them to agree on a plan.
c.) Implement that plan quickly.
To me, the main players break down into the following groups:
a.) People with the tech skill (and desire/dedictation) to make a web site and forum work properly.
b.) Consistent and prominent members of the DDM community.
My approach would be as follows:
1.) Get as many people that fit into group b. together and ask them to join their voices into one voice. Get a large number of them to agree that they will collectively vote on a single board to be their primary (and almost exclusive) DDM board (excluding WotC).
2.) Get groups of people from group a. to put together proposals for the collective in group b. to consider. A primary factor in this equation will be the financing of the operation.
3.) Have the people in group b. review the proposals, vote and then all stick to the plan by going with the web site that gives the best proposal.
Frankly, I don't think that the Maxminis or Hordelings name is as important as the people in the community and the support of the site. I'd be happy to move to a site named 'Welovelittlepuppies.com' if the majority of the community consolidated there and if it were run well.
Unfortunately, this is not a campaign that I have the time to spearhead. My work load has recently increased, and I am getting married in November. However, if someone else wants to organize something along these lines, put my name down on the list.
It is my hope that - somehow - Maxminis will come out on top of this situation. However, I'd rather see Maxminis fall if it means that we can get a cohesive and effective community elsewhere. | |
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johnny.quest
Underboss
1344 Posts
| | 07/19/2006 1:35 PM |
| It seems to me that significant portions of those two groups of people have already moved to Hordelings. Maxminis has been a great place, and I'm grateful for it. However, it seems unreasonable to expect the return of people who have put a ton of work into this site, only to get burned in the end. Negotiations (mostly one-sided) have been going on for over a year, and the response has been silence and lock-out.
I think more is being made of a supposed community split than is warranted. Some people are now posting more on Hordelings. Everyone knows where to find them. Everyone is welcome to post over there, and everyone is welcome to post here. The community simply has two clubhouses, instead of one. I've seen no animosity between players of the game as a result of this split. It doesn't seem like a big deal to me.
I, personally, want to contribute to a site that has significant community input and where I feel secure that my contribution will be appreciated and preserved. Hordelings is that place right now. I still post on Maxminis, but I want to help Hordelings grow. So, the bulk of my modest contribution will take place at Hordelings for the near future. | | | |
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griffrat
Commander
3506 Posts
| | 07/19/2006 1:59 PM |
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Originally posted by johnny.quest
It seems to me that significant portions of those two groups of people have already moved to Hordelings. Maxminis has been a great place, and I'm grateful for it. However, it seems unreasonable to expect the return of people who have put a ton of work into this site, only to get burned in the end. Negotiations (mostly one-sided) have been going on for over a year, and the response has been silence and lock-out.
Yup, jgsugden, this is what I am taking away from your thread. You are asking that the same thing "a group pf people" get together and try and hash out what would be the best direction to move forward. Not trying to flame or anything. But that is the exact thing that I thought was going on. Heck, I could be so far off base I am in the dugout!!
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Originally posted by johnny.quest
I think more is being made of a supposed community split than is warranted. Some people are now posting more on Hordelings. Everyone knows where to find them. Everyone is welcome to post over there, and everyone is welcome to post here. The community simply has two clubhouses, instead of one. I've seen no animosity between players of the game as a result of this split. It doesn't seem like a big deal to me.
This is my train of thought as well. I have been posting in both "clubhouses" and making trades with people that still have trade threads here and there. I look at it that there are some people that are making a choice. But, they are trying things out seeing which site serves them better. Nothing wrong with a little education....[:D]
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Originally posted by johnny.quest
I, personally, want to contribute to a site that has significant community input and where I feel secure that my contribution will be appreciated and preserved. Hordelings is that place right now. I still post on Maxminis, but I want to help Hordelings grow. So, the bulk of my modest contribution will take place at Hordelings for the near future.
This is where I think the "perception" of hurt feelings I mentioned in another thread earlier today is coming from. I don't know if this is a true feeling or just a slow response time from "the powers" or if it is just sand in the crack.
But, J. quest is right. Right now the up front and forthcoming attitude from the powers at hordelings. And the drastic changes that have occured over the last 2.5 weeks is staggering in a good way. Communication, is always a good thing. When people stop talking then bad things tend to happen.
Now, by me saying this I am not saying anything derrogatory about this place. I do love this place and love hanging out here and making trades. But, this is all going to come out in the wash....just someone has to start the machine....All in all I am where the community is. [:D] | |
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ktatroe
Sergeant
564 Posts
| | 07/19/2006 2:12 PM |
| For the most part, I agree with the above... so much so that I -- along with Jai and ChrisGroves among others -- have already tried it. This is pretty much the exact process we went through when Jai, ChrisGroves, and I proposed a merger to Webmaster earlier this year. The results of that process are still available at: http://www.hordelings.com/future.php[/url].
Jai and I had been talking for a year or so, and Chris joined us as a third, and non-technical, voice.
We developed a very extensive plan (as you can see above), and put it forward to Webmaster. He initially seemed interested, so we passed the document around to numerous community leaders at both sites. We received and incorporated dozens of pieces of feedback from various individuals.
When it became clear -- not because anyone was told anything, but because Jai lost access to the database and ftp -- that Webmaster was no longer interested in even talking to us, we regrouped and decided to just make Hordelings be everything documented in this plan that the community (represented by the three of us) came to an agreement on.
People will go where they feel their interests -- both individually and collectively as a community -- are best represented.
I personally stand by the document linked above as being the best possible of all worlds, and (outside importing users and posts, which obviously Hordelings can't do, even if the scripts are written and tested already) Hordelings is moving very quickly towards implementing each and every proposed change -- in addition to the items that have come up since and that have already been implemented.
If you feel Hordelings' attention to the community at large is lacking, or the proposal we put forward needs revisions, we're all ears. There's no reason to start from scratch when so much has already been done.
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johnny.quest
Underboss
1344 Posts
| | 07/19/2006 2:21 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by griffrat
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Originally posted by johnny.quest
I, personally, want to contribute to a site that has significant community input and where I feel secure that my contribution will be appreciated and preserved. Hordelings is that place right now. I still post on Maxminis, but I want to help Hordelings grow. So, the bulk of my modest contribution will take place at Hordelings for the near future.
This is where I think the "perception" of hurt feelings I mentioned in another thread earlier today is coming from. I don't know if this is a true feeling or just a slow response time from "the powers" or if it is just sand in the crack.
Here's what I have observed. My perception isn't truth, but it's the best I've got until someone points out otherwise. Jai kept this site running for a long time, putting in a lot of hard work, and knowing that the site needed substantial improvement (in terms of server and database issues). Jai and others put together a plan to improve the site. Webmaster didn't respond directly to said proposals. Webmaster locked Jai out of the database without warning.
These are the reasons why I am not confident that further contributions to Maxminis will be appreciated and preserved. | | | |
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Runelord151
Underboss
1203 Posts
| | 07/19/2006 2:26 PM |
| Man am I getting sick of this whole us/them attitude.
So where is it written in stone that you have to post on one site or another?
I've seen multiple people that have made the us and them comments and then lament the evils of a community split. Maybe the people doing the lamenting should take a look at how they're going about decrying the evils of one site or another and just look at the posibilities that some of us may be capable of posting on more than one website.
I hate to say it, but it seems like alot of the important players (the ones that actually contribute to the health and growth of the community as opposed to improving their post count with boarderline spam posts) have already moved on.
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PatEllis15
Commander
4462 Posts
| | 07/19/2006 2:31 PM |
| The problem that those who have migrated to Hordelilngs don't seem to see (and I might be wrong, but I don't see those people necessarily acting contrary to my observation...) is that the split in the community is unhealthy for the community and game at large.
Had Hordelings been an equal to MaxMinis from a membership, contribution of those members, and by WotC folk, then we wouldn't really be having this conversation.
The reality is that the quality of the content at Hordelings isn't what it was 3 weeks ago here at MaxMinis, nor is the content here now, what it was 3 weeks ago.
The only solution to this is to get the majority of the community back under one roof. The people who have made teh move to Hordelings may feel that they have the better roof, and I won't necessarily dispute that. The problem is they aren't posting here to MaxMinis directly, EXPLICITY, stating this, and encouraging everyone migrate.
A few people have, but not with clarity. To be our best, the community needs to be found in one location. I DO think that MaxMinis has some name cache to the casual fan that Hordelings does not.
I still want MaxMinis 2.0 It appears that I will not get that wish. It also appears that there will be no effort to port over all the user, and thread data to Hordelings, and that too is disappointing.
I don't currently see a "win" situation for the community/game in the near future.
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Ghendar
Warlord
11456 Posts
In ur house, stealin' yur minis
| | 07/19/2006 2:33 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by johnny.quest
Here's what I have observed. My perception isn't truth, but it's the best I've got until someone points out otherwise. Jai kept this site running for a long time, putting in a lot of hard work, and knowing that the site needed substantial improvement (in terms of server and database issues). Jai and others put together a plan to improve the site. Webmaster didn't respond directly to said proposals. Webmaster locked Jai out of the database without warning.
These are the reasons why I am not confident that further contributions to Maxminis will be appreciated and preserved.
This is how I feel as well. However, much like jq, everything I have heard up to this point has been second or third hand info. I have not heard from Jai, nor from webmaster, so I am reluctant to make any final decisions about anything at this point.
It seems to me that Jai was treated very badly and very rudely but again, I don't know that with certanty.
When I came back from vacation and heard about all this stuff, I was initially alarmed, but recently I've changed my feelings. Whatever happens, life goes on, web sites come and go, it's not the end of the world. | |
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johnny.quest
Underboss
1344 Posts
| | 07/19/2006 2:39 PM |
| Just to be clear, Hordelings is all set to import user info, threads, have/want lists, and trade information. However, only one person has access to the Maxminis database, and he doesn't appear to be interested in cross-compatability.
Pat, I sympathize with your disappointment, but I still don't think that having two strong DDM sites is a bad thing for the community or the game. I'm not about to start coming to Maxminis and recruiting people for Hordelings. I've stated my perspective as clearly as I can, and I'm going to leave it at that. | | | |
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Sammael
Underboss
1881 Posts
| | 07/19/2006 2:40 PM |
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Originally posted by PatEllis15
The problem that those who have migrated to Hordelilngs don't seem to see (and I might be wrong, but I don't see those people necessarily acting contrary to my observation...) is that the split in the community is unhealthy for the community and game at large.
I've seen you post that time and again, with no explanation. WHY is the fact that some people post on a different site unhealthy (and that's a pretty strong term) for the "community" (whatever that is, and it seems to me we all have pretty different views of what it is) or "the game at large?" Many major players never bother to post on either site. Are you sending them e-mails to ask them to post on Maxminis, because their lack of participation "is unhealthy for the community and game at large?" I don't get it. From your post, it seems that the people who have moved to Hordelings owe something to Maxminis. They don't. In fact, Maxminis owes a lot of its success to them. | |
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ktatroe
Sergeant
564 Posts
| | 07/19/2006 2:44 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by PatEllis15
The problem that those who have migrated to Hordelilngs don't seem to see (and I might be wrong, but I don't see those people necessarily acting contrary to my observation...) is that the split in the community is unhealthy for the community and game at large.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I do feel -- strongly, in fact -- that a split is bad. But I also felt, equally strongly, when I proposed (and even more strongly now given the visible level of commitment to the community from Webmaster in recent weeks), that allowing Maxminis to stagnate and crumble is worse. Especially when I have in my hands the ability to do better.
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PatEllis15
Commander
4462 Posts
| | 07/19/2006 2:45 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by johnny.quest
Pat, I sympathize with your disappointment, but I still don't think that having two strong DDM sites is a bad thing for the community or the game. I'm not about to start coming to Maxminis and recruiting people for Hordelings. I've stated my perspective as clearly as I can, and I'm going to leave it at that.
I don't disagree with your statement, 2 strong sites could be good. Currently, I don't think you can call Hordelings a strong site. It has a handfull of strong contributor's, but doesn't have the critical mass that maxMinis does to sustain high level discussion. I'm at hordelings as well. I still find it harder to use than MaxMinis. I AM going to continue to recruit people to the "idea" that one strong site is better than 2 weaker ones. I will end up whereever the stronger community is. Right now it is still here.
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So where is it written in stone that you have to post on one site or another?
It isn't, but despite that fact, this is the ONLY message board that I frequent with such regularity as to have more than 1000 posts. Sure I pop by EnWorld, and WotC, and gen Con's forums. I stop by Hordelings too. heck I've been a member tehre for several years, but only JUSt started to post.
People are going to gravitate to one site as their "primary" site to exchage information on this game. While the Community is split, we will have a lower quality exchange....
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Runelord151
Underboss
1203 Posts
| | 07/19/2006 2:50 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Ghendar
quote:
Originally posted by johnny.quest
Here's what I have observed. My perception isn't truth, but it's the best I've got until someone points out otherwise. Jai kept this site running for a long time, putting in a lot of hard work, and knowing that the site needed substantial improvement (in terms of server and database issues). Jai and others put together a plan to improve the site. Webmaster didn't respond directly to said proposals. Webmaster locked Jai out of the database without warning.
These are the reasons why I am not confident that further contributions to Maxminis will be appreciated and preserved.
This is how I feel as well. However, much like jq, everything I have heard up to this point has been second or third hand info. I have not heard from Jai, nor from webmaster, so I am reluctant to make any final decisions about anything at this point.
It seems to me that Jai was treated very badly and very rudely but again, I don't know that with certanty.
When I came back from vacation and heard about all this stuff, I was initially alarmed, but recently I've changed my feelings. Whatever happens, life goes on, web sites come and go, it's not the end of the world.
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PatEllis15
Commander
4462 Posts
| | 07/19/2006 2:50 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by ktatroe
I can't speak for anyone else, but I do feel -- strongly, in fact -- that a split is bad. But I also felt, equally strongly, when I proposed (and even more strongly now given the visible level of commitment to the community from Webmaster in recent weeks), that allowing Maxminis to stagnate and crumble is worse. Especially when I have in my hands the ability to do better.
Thanks for posting that... I agree as well. I was one of the first to post my support for 2.0 for a reason.
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Runelord151
Underboss
1203 Posts
| | 07/19/2006 2:51 PM |
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Originally posted by PatEllis15
The only solution to this is to get the majority of the community back under one roof. The people who have made teh move to Hordelings may feel that they have the better roof, and I won't necessarily dispute that. The problem is they aren't posting here to MaxMinis directly, EXPLICITY, stating this, and encouraging everyone migrate.
Come one over Pat! I think you could be one of the plugs holding back the leaks in the dam. | | | |
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PatEllis15
Commander
4462 Posts
| | 07/19/2006 2:54 PM |
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Originally posted by Sammael
I've seen you post that time and again, with no explanation. WHY is the fact that some people post on a different site unhealthy (and that's a pretty strong term) for the "community" (whatever that is, and it seems to me we all have pretty different views of what it is) or "the game at large?" Many major players never bother to post on either site. Are you sending them e-mails to ask them to post on Maxminis, because their lack of participation "is unhealthy for the community and game at large?" I don't get it. From your post, it seems that the people who have moved to Hordelings owe something to Maxminis. They don't. In fact, Maxminis owes a lot of its success to them.
Of course they don't owe anything to MaxMinis, don't be absurd. Did I say that anywhere?
Everyone is here because of a GAME. We like the game. One of the reasons many of us are here is because we want to talk to other people who like the same game that we do. If the Community gets split into 50 websites with 100 members each, only 3 of whom actually post, do you think that each member will have as much luck in finding other players to play/trade with? Will the Meta develop as quickly? With the WotC Staff visit and post on each webiste?
Yes, that is an extreme example, but it is NO different from what has happened to date. We have a community of 5000 members here, and a community of 1000 members at Hordelings. Drawing away a portion of the membership hurts MaxMinis, but DOESN'T make Hordelings it's equal.
As I've stated, I'll migrate to whereever the critical mass of the community goes. As of TODAY, the community at large is weaker because it has been split.
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PatEllis15
Commander
4462 Posts
| | 07/19/2006 2:58 PM |
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Originally posted by Runelord151
quote:
Originally posted by PatEllis15
The only solution to this is to get the majority of the community back under one roof. The people who have made teh move to Hordelings may feel that they have the better roof, and I won't necessarily dispute that. The problem is they aren't posting here to MaxMinis directly, EXPLICITY, stating this, and encouraging everyone migrate.
Come one over Pat! I think you could be one of the plugs holding back the leaks in the dam.
Heh... I've been a member since 2004. Over there my screen name is PEtheDM, and I've been posting a bit since the split began. I don't think I'm the cog that is holding the dam together.
I think I know those who are, but I don't want to pressure anyone. I do want one roof!
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ChristopherGroves
Warlord
6093 Posts
| | 07/19/2006 3:00 PM |
| Jai is often on IRC and Hordelings; you can talk to him directly there if you want (or drop him an email).
My problem is that since December of last year I have been advocating folks try to work in the spirit of growing maxminis ... trying to get the webmaster involved and trying to stem the tide of content flow away from this site and community. It worked for a while, but ultimately it has failed.
Worse still, I feel like I've wasted their time and mine in the process. There are a handful of DDM yahoo groups and in the last few months a handful of websites that are offering DDM content provided by MaxMinis users who would have hosted the content here had that been an option.
You guys are great.
When the magical upgrade / move happend last week and none of us knew about it I went into a panic again trying to save threads that had been stickied and possibly lost. As it happens, it was just the webmaster doing some things without letting folks know. Either way, that cost me a morning of work trying to salvage stuff. It got me thinking whether or not MaxMinis Forums is the right place to post a bunch of those good topics and kernels of discussion ... and I don't like thinking those thoughts.
In the not too distant past, that would have been a non-issue ... of course this is the place.
Frankly, I find it alarming that most of the top-page of users feel like they have no loyalty to the site nor does the site have any loyalty to them at this point.
I don't think the community itself is split ... I think now we have a problem deciding which bar/coffee house in which to meet. My relationships are with the people. | |
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PaSquall
Underboss
1399 Posts
| | 07/19/2006 3:24 PM |
| Some thoughts.
I check maxminis everyday (though not next week, I'm on holidays far from my computer). Frankly it doesn't seem that many people have left the site. The main posters are still here and most of them post almost everyday.
I think some of you are overreacting on this issue. It can't be that bad to have 2 major WotC miniatures websites. Some post only here. Some post only on Hordelings. Some post on both. In the end both sites will survive if they're good ; bad site(s) will vanish. If hordelings gets better, it will grow. If maxminis gets worse, it will wane and disappear one day.
Darwin-esque, isn't it ?
Oh, and the quality of the moderators is an important point... I know I've quasi-left some sites (not minis related) for that reason. Could play a (small) part in the maxminis/hordelings fight that some of you envision (not me).
And it's true that webmaster/wuzzard don't post enough [:D] | |
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galneweinhaw
Commander
2646 Posts
| | 07/19/2006 3:30 PM |
| EDIT... I'm gonna give it one big try.
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jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
Walnut Creek, CA
| | 07/19/2006 3:43 PM |
| | Just for reference, could someone post a list of the Maxminis IDs of the people that have (primarily) switched to Hordelings? We don't need everyone, but I just want to know who we're talking about. I'm have trouble fgiuring out who it is due to the lack of posting on Hordelings... | |
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 07/19/2006 3:51 PM |
| | Now that the articles section is live over at hordelings, I will be doing 95% of my posting over there. Already I merely comment on threads here, and my level of commenting is going to be dwindling to next to nothing in the very near future. I will be making a formal announcement over in Skirmish tonight. | |
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Sammael
Underboss
1881 Posts
| | 07/19/2006 3:56 PM |
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Originally posted by galneweinhaw
EDIT... I'm gonna give it one big try.
please support this:
http://www.maxminis.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=23562
Petitions never have any effect whatsoever.
At any rate, I can't speak for others, but I plan on doing most of my posting on Hordelings. Because I feel that incessant posting spamming on Maxminis has turned the site into something less than it used to be (regardless of last week's issues), I won't post there nearly as much as I did here. | |
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ktatroe
Sergeant
564 Posts
| | 07/19/2006 4:06 PM |
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Originally posted by jgsugden
Just for reference, could someone post a list of the Maxminis IDs of the people that have (primarily) switched to Hordelings? We don't need everyone, but I just want to know who we're talking about. I'm have trouble fgiuring out who it is due to the lack of posting on Hordelings...
What purpose could such a list (if there's even a single member that it would hold) possibly have?
The snipe on numbers of posts is unwarranted. Hordelings has had 2,000 posts in as many weeks. That's healthy, even if there have been twice that number here.
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galneweinhaw
Commander
2646 Posts
| | 07/19/2006 4:38 PM |
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Originally posted by Sammael
...Petitions never have any effect whatsoever.
Yes they do, they make me not feel guilty about abandoning this place, cus I've done what I could do! [:)]
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Felagund
Sergeant
922 Posts
| | 07/19/2006 6:33 PM |
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Originally posted by PatEllis15
The reality is that the quality of the content at Hordelings isn't what it was 3 weeks ago here at MaxMinis,
I agree. Hordelings' content is better. Nearly every post there is something that I feel is worth reading. There is no spam, and I love it!
I don't feel that everybody needs to be posting on the same site. I still scan Maxminis for interesting posts, just as I have done on WotC for about a year now. I even participated on the Miniature Page while they were active.
There is enough high-level contribution on Hordelings that I am satisfied with the discussions. I'd like to see that continue to increase, but I'd also like to avoid seeing an influx of low-level contribution. I imagine that may well be inevitable, but I can always dream, I guess. | |
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sienar
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| | 07/19/2006 7:35 PM |
| We have to remember that something else is going on this time of year, too, that, iirc, caused a drop-off in posting last year too. With the championships coming up, those participating will tend to discuss strategy less.
I would say that is causing a drop-off in posts just as much as recent events. | |
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MerricB
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Australia
| | 07/19/2006 7:43 PM |
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