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 | | 07/29/2005 11:37 AM |
| | recovered topic 6669 | |
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kestrel.ca
Underboss
1678 Posts
| | 07/29/2005 11:37 AM |
| | Is Dragon's Hoard available for Vassal? Or the Lost Temple (Huge) mat? | |
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The Mighty
jai
Commander
3235 Posts
| | 07/29/2005 12:04 PM |
| | I believe that both of them are now. | | | |
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tullywi
Sergeant
982 Posts
| | 07/29/2005 2:09 PM |
| I've tried bringing in the Dragon's Hoard, but haven't had success yet because the middle pieces tend to scan slanted which makes it tough to put the whole thing back together.
About including these types of maps, I'm a little torn. I want to keep the mod as small as possible. Currently, there are quite a few objects in the module that I haven't seen used in a long time. I'd hate to double the size of the mod to include maps that would see little use. There are still people that use dial-up to play Vassal. On the other hand, I know that people want as many options as possible. That is how all the extra things were added in the first place. There has got to be a way to strike a balance. | |
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The Mighty
jai
Commander
3235 Posts
| | 07/29/2005 3:41 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by tullywi
I've tried bringing in the Dragon's Hoard, but haven't had success yet because the middle pieces tend to scan slanted which makes it tough to put the whole thing back together.
Would you like me to try on my scanner? | | | |
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tullywi
Sergeant
982 Posts
| | 07/29/2005 6:55 PM |
| | Absolutely | |
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tullywi
Sergeant
982 Posts
| | 07/29/2005 7:13 PM |
| Jai,
Are you finished with the map yet? [:)] | |
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The Mighty
jai
Commander
3235 Posts
| | 07/31/2005 11:53 AM |
| I never read your reply (been offline for a couple days).
I will try it this afternoon. | | | |
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tullywi
Sergeant
982 Posts
| | 07/31/2005 4:14 PM |
| | I asked the 2nd time about 15 minutes after the first one. [:)] | |
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The Mighty
jai
Commander
3235 Posts
| | 07/31/2005 5:23 PM |
| what size would be best for this?
I have scanned in the pieces and am going to now try to puzzle it together. | | | |
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tullywi
Sergeant
982 Posts
| | 07/31/2005 5:49 PM |
| | Each square is 50 pixels. | |
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The Mighty
jai
Commander
3235 Posts
| | 07/31/2005 6:02 PM |
| | Yeah, i got that from opening the existing mod ... not as easy to do though [)] | | | |
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The Mighty
jai
Commander
3235 Posts
| | 07/31/2005 7:24 PM |
| Here is the best i could do ...
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tullywi
Sergeant
982 Posts
| | 07/31/2005 11:56 PM |
| | This will work well. Thanks. | |
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The Mighty
jai
Commander
3235 Posts
| | 08/01/2005 10:18 AM |
| So, how did it turn out? I apologize for the crease marks, but i couldn't scan my laminated one! [)]
There are a few places where the lines are kinda screwy cause i had to rescan a section due to image cropping or a crease that was too bad.
Edit:
Also, per DariusTAD, that scan looks dark ... can you lighten it at all? | | | |
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The Mighty
jai
Commander
3235 Posts
| | 08/02/2005 1:34 PM |
| | Tully, i have a question about the latest mod. You added a center line for the Lost Temple mat. But your center line isn't center ... it makes a 18/16 split. Did you notice that or did you do it on purpose? | | | |
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tullywi
Sergeant
982 Posts
| | 08/02/2005 8:17 PM |
| | Nope, that was an accident. In fact, I don't even think that one needs to be there. Who needs to know where the center line is on the Lost Temple? | |
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The Mighty
jai
Commander
3235 Posts
| | 08/02/2005 9:44 PM |
| | Putting a center line on the dragon's hoard might be useful ... they have diff. terrain marked orange to signify treasure for the snatch and run scenario. These could also be used as "tile point" or "victory" terrain possibly as well... | | | |
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ChristopherGroves
Warlord
6093 Posts
| | 08/02/2005 9:56 PM |
| One thing I think that should be considered is trimming out the un-used RPG items, etc. from the mod. About the only one I use (beyond the info marker which you moved - thanks for that) is the skull and cross-bones.
I'm torn on the inclusion or exclusion of some tiles. About a year and a half ago a bunch of folks made some neat tiles but I'd wager they almost never get used. Given the future direction (maps) I think almost that 2 mods are in order. One for the more pure skirmish game featuring only core or secondary items (like things published in Dragon, the Frost-whatever non-legal tiles) and a second with more of the RPG-use stuff. The second would be larger and would satisfy those few individuals who use vassal for less sanctioned play.
The silly fact of the matter is I've NEVER used one of the fan-created tiles on Vassal, nor have I EVER seen anyone else use them. I like them, but in the Vassal mod I think they are wasted space.
Besides, who owns the Vassal mod? Who actually keeps it as up to date as it is? I think it comes down to a very small set of people and I think sampling some feedback here (ie, post questions see who responds) could be as good a method as possible for version control / whatever.
One more curiosity - Any value in my trying to scan in the Flame / Frost templates from the retailer kits and seeing about making them semi-transparent or are we all happy with the black and pink templates?
Also, as soon as I get this month's tile I'll scan it and send your way. Fane of the Drow is due out Aug 24 if the products page is to be believed, so we'd likely have an update needed end of month-ish. | |
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The Mighty
jai
Commander
3235 Posts
| | 08/03/2005 9:48 AM |
| That is a very good point.
I think removing non-legal tiles would give the mod plenty of room to grow for those of us that use it for more serious play.
Even those of us playing EC games don't use much more than legal items anyway ... | | | |
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tullywi
Sergeant
982 Posts
| | 08/04/2005 12:27 AM |
| I'm real leary of having 2 mods. It was 2 mods once before and was a huge pain to keep up to date. The largest objects in the mod (outside the Dragon's Hoard map) is the RPG tiles. They are all 40-50 KB. If I got rid of them, the mod would easily be under 3 MB. My current version is 4.2MB.
What I will do is log in to Vassal and put a READ ME user out there. Inside I will ask people what tiles they use and tell them that I think there is a lot of things in the mod that people aren't using. The problem I run into is that many people don't think 4 MB is too large for the mod. I'm of the opinion that it will grow very rapidly. | |
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ChristopherGroves
Warlord
6093 Posts
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The Mighty
jai
Commander
3235 Posts
| | 08/04/2005 9:44 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by tullywi
I'm of the opinion that it will grow very rapidly.
It *will* with the new maps coming out constantly. | | | |
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ChristopherGroves
Warlord
6093 Posts
| | 08/04/2005 11:10 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by tullywi
I'm real leary of having 2 mods. It was 2 mods once before and was a huge pain to keep up to date. The largest objects in the mod (outside the Dragon's Hoard map) is the RPG tiles. They are all 40-50 KB. If I got rid of them, the mod would easily be under 3 MB. My current version is 4.2MB.
What I will do is log in to Vassal and put a READ ME user out there. Inside I will ask people what tiles they use and tell them that I think there is a lot of things in the mod that people aren't using. The problem I run into is that many people don't think 4 MB is too large for the mod. I'm of the opinion that it will grow very rapidly.
When I suggested two mods it was more from the perspective of you keep the DDM mod up to date and IF ANYONE ELSE WANTS AN RPG MOD, they do it themselves.
So, one mod more skirmish-focused would be my vote (not that I get a vote - you're the one doing the bulk of the work). | |
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 08/05/2005 10:50 AM |
| I thin it should be as competitive skirmish play focused as possible. Get rid of the things that you are unlikely to find outside of it.
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The Mighty
jai
Commander
3235 Posts
| | 08/05/2005 10:59 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by doubtofbuddha
I thin it should be as competitive skirmish play focused as possible. Get rid of the things that you are unlikely to find outside of it.
Yes, removing non-legal tiles would help a lot in that regard i think. And when WarDrums approaches, we will only have figures and maps! Uggg. | | | |
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ChristopherGroves
Warlord
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dariustad
Warlord
6322 Posts
| | 08/11/2005 4:51 PM |
| | The Statue, I would think. No? | |
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Zippy
Underboss
1992 Posts
Whitewater, WI
| | 08/11/2005 8:02 PM |
| Keep: Statue and rubble for DDM (beholder & medusa & baaz = statue , stone giant & ice storm spell = rubble).
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bshugg
Underboss
1821 Posts
| | 08/16/2005 12:42 PM |
| | I like the icons and use them for making custom DDM maps. Some are worthless to me, but a set of thin walls and thick walls, and hindering squares and open squares would allow for customization of maps. I guees I can continue making custom maps from the tiles. | |
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The Mighty
jai
Commander
3235 Posts
| | 08/24/2005 9:21 PM |
| | Tully, did you tweak the Hoard map since i saw it last? It looks lighter and more colorful ... | | | |
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tullywi
Sergeant
982 Posts
| | 08/24/2005 11:30 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by jai
Tully, did you tweak the Hoard map since i saw it last? It looks lighter and more colorful ...
Nope, I didn't tweak it after putting it in the mod. I noticed that it was more colorful though too when I was playing on it. | |
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