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11/09/2005 6:33 PM  
recovered topic 11235

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11/09/2005 6:33 PM  
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I asked this on the weekly thread, but it probably got buried with everything else that's going on there. For a magic item that I rolled this week, I got a +1 cleaving foe damage (uniques) weapon. Now, I very much doubt it, but do uniques count as named warlords and lieutenants (as there is only one of each in a warband, and they can have different abilities than other units of that type in the game). Just a shot in the dark... =) Thanks for any answers!


Nope, they have to have the Unique ability.

And to clarify something else, there is nothing limiting you to only one Lt. YOu can have as many as you want, and you can include as many or as few as you want in your warband.

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11/09/2005 7:17 PM  
As a side question, is a figure considered a lieutenent as soon as it gains XP, or only once it gains a full level?

So, can my JA with 500xp use more than one magic item yet? [:)]

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11/09/2005 7:29 PM  
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Originally posted by psistef

As a side question, is a figure considered a lieutenent as soon as it gains XP, or only once it gains a full level?

So, can my JA with 500xp use more than one magic item yet? [:)]


This isn't very clear in the rules, so I will post it in the updates too.

An Lt is not actually considerred an Lt untill it has 1 level in the Lt Prestige Class. So untill it has gained 1 level, it is limited to 1 item. Similarily, Lts without at least 1 level can't join promoted Lts.

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11/09/2005 7:31 PM  
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Originally posted by galneweinhaw

quote:
Originally posted by psistef

As a side question, is a figure considered a lieutenent as soon as it gains XP, or only once it gains a full level?

So, can my JA with 500xp use more than one magic item yet? [:)]


This isn't very clear in the rules, so I will post it in the updates too.

An Lt is not actually considerred an Lt untill it has 1 level in the Lt Prestige Class. So untill it has gained 1 level, it is limited to 1 item. Similarily, Lts without at least 1 level can't join promoted Lts.



Wow really? that I didnt know, I thought it was a Lt soon as it had xp. Yeah that is very unclear in the rules. Ive been doing it the other way since I began.

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11/09/2005 7:34 PM  
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Originally posted by galneweinhaw

quote:
Originally posted by psistef

As a side question, is a figure considered a lieutenent as soon as it gains XP, or only once it gains a full level?

So, can my JA with 500xp use more than one magic item yet? [:)]


This isn't very clear in the rules, so I will post it in the updates too.

An Lt is not actually considerred an Lt untill it has 1 level in the Lt Prestige Class. So untill it has gained 1 level, it is limited to 1 item. Similarily, Lts without at least 1 level can't join promoted Lts.



Mmm I really don't like this translation. It's pretty tough to get creatures to a level sometimes and it really detracts from a warlord who loses alot and doesn't get alot of LT xp to be able to arm his Lts with multiple items. I've always assumed that as soon as they get a name and XP they are a LT in effect.

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11/09/2005 8:25 PM  
Alright, thank you there Gal. That's what I thought, but it didn't hurt to ask... =)

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11/09/2005 9:26 PM  
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Mmm I really don't like this translation. It's pretty tough to get creatures to a level sometimes and it really detracts from a warlord who loses alot and doesn't get alot of LT xp to be able to arm his Lts with multiple items. I've always assumed that as soon as they get a name and XP they are a LT in effect.



I went through the rules, and there is NOTHING about how this is supposed to work....doh! I'd like to see how everyone else has interpreted this, cus I have a feeling most players think its the same way you do. And from the rules there is nothing to indicate it would be otherwise.


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11/09/2005 9:34 PM  
weaighing in on the "Lt as soon as they get any XP" rule. In fact, based on some OTHER discussions (about possible changes to what warloards can bring with them, and you answer to my question about that), I was pretty sure YOU thought that, too!

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11/09/2005 9:35 PM  
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Originally posted by galneweinhaw

quote:
Originally posted by AesophDarkfable

Mmm I really don't like this translation. It's pretty tough to get creatures to a level sometimes and it really detracts from a warlord who loses alot and doesn't get alot of LT xp to be able to arm his Lts with multiple items. I've always assumed that as soon as they get a name and XP they are a LT in effect.



I went through the rules, and there is NOTHING about how this is supposed to work....doh! I'd like to see how everyone else has interpreted this, cus I have a feeling most players think its the same way you do. And from the rules there is nothing to indicate it would be otherwise.





I've always done it as 500 exp and you're a lieutenant eligible for multiple item usage.


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11/10/2005 12:14 AM  
I've gone by what's listed under the warlord on the EC Warlord Roster page as a Lt. (as in a Lt. is a Lt. and eligible to full rights including voting for president as soon as it has any XP).

As long as we all do it the same way in the end...

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11/10/2005 10:40 AM  
Anyone else have a take on this? It looks like the majority have been doing it any xp makes them a lt.

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11/10/2005 11:36 AM  
I thought it was any XP and you were at Lt for magic items purposes.

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11/10/2005 11:38 AM  
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Anyone else have a take on this? It looks like the majority have been doing it any xp makes them a lt.



In that case, we better close a loophole by getting the 250XP minimum recorded somewhere official (else everyone will be an Lt!).

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11/10/2005 11:42 AM  
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Originally posted by galneweinhaw

quote:
Originally posted by AesophDarkfable

Anyone else have a take on this? It looks like the majority have been doing it any xp makes them a lt.



In that case, we better close a loophole by getting the 250XP minimum recorded somewhere official (else everyone will be an Lt!).



Thats fine with me. Though making everyone a lt doesnt really offer any real value with the magic item limit. If im level 6 I can only have 7 items. It doesnt matter if I have 7 lts or 2 lts. I don't have enough items to give them all 3.

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11/11/2005 9:48 PM  
Oops I missed this thread before.. I also read it that if you gave a creature some xp, then it was officially a lieutenant:

In fact the way the rules about awarding experience read, this is the correct interpretation, whether that's what you meant or not Gal :). It talks about "lieutenant experience" and "giving experience to lieutenants", rather than talking about "a creature that you wish to become a lieutenant" :). At any rate, I think the way that everyone has been playing it works good.. I will go fix my FAQ entry to say 250xp = LT until further notice :)

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