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Originally posted by eMpTy Kay

I have been looking at the King of the hill map and have a couple questions.

1) are the six stone pillars all treated as difficult terrain, or just the two, and the rest as impassable terrain?

2) are the shrine of war and wheel of luck a 2x2 or 4x4 area?

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1) I think they are all difficult terrain.

2) It looks to me like 4x4.

Zippy when can I suspect to see this senario as an EC week senario?? Sorry, I'm so excited.

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Originally posted by robbdaman

Looking at Risky Terrain tonight on the Mushroom Cavern map I thought we should do a Risky Terrain/Blood Rock type scenario where the whole map is both. Call it "Blood and Risk". We should make the Risky Terrain part optional because 10 damage at low point levels could be devestating. Creatures can choose to get the +5 damage bonus but in doing so they must roll the Risky Terrain where 1-5 is 10 damage. Blood Rock is always active. Perhaps do it on the Dragon's Horde since it almost never sees use. This might have already been done but I don't feel like looking back for the log of all the old games in the past 50 weeks. [:p]

R~

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Zippy when can I suspect to see this senario as an EC week senario?? Sorry, I'm so excited.

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Originally posted by ShadowLord XT

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Originally posted by eMpTy Kay

I have been looking at the King of the hill map and have a couple questions.

1) are the six stone pillars all treated as difficult terrain, or just the two, and the rest as impassable terrain?

2) are the shrine of war and wheel of luck a 2x2 or 4x4 area?

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1) I think they are all difficult terrain.

2) It looks to me like 4x4.

Zippy when can I suspect to see this senario as an EC week senario?? Sorry, I'm so excited.

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Originally posted by ShadowLord XT

Destroy the Fort

We will be using the King of the Hill map. Take 3 double walls and set them up horizontally on A 10, 11, 12 for Starting area A then HH 10, 11, 12 for Starting area B.

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What exactly are "Double Walls"? Do you mean the one space thick walls?

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You must either eliminate your oppoent's army or his/her fortress.

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In other words, play until you score victory points equal to the warband size, the forts are worth warband size. right?

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The victory area on the map is covered in the fog and acts like the fog from the Hellspike map.

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Isn't the victory area the very top area? Doesn't make sence with infor farther down...

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Fog- blocks LoS (Unless you have blindsight), commanders have to be within 6 squares of allies to have them under command while they're in the fog, and if you're not within 6 you're OOC and don't benefit from commander effects and morale bonuses and all that jazz.

Fort stats:
lvl: 10
Highest warlord level X 10 + 30 =Total HP
Highest warlord level + 15 =Total AC
Construct
Spell Resisitance
Spell Immunity: Mordy's Swords, Blur, Regen, Rust Construct, and all Heal spells.
Immune poison
Resist Cold 5 and Acid 5
Vulnerable Sonic, Fire

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Constructs are immune to Poison and Heal spells. The fort does not "activate" so Mordy's sword would never activate.

I would think Acid eating through stone would be easier to imagine than stone burning...

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1st ring on the hill is normal movement. 2nd and 3rd rings cost 2 movement like difficult terrain. Trees and statues are considered difficult terrain and moving on them on the 2nd or 3rd ring doesn't cost any extra movement. The fog is located on the entire 2nd ring. When on the 3rd ring or on the top of the hill, a mini can see over the fog. The top of the hill is normal movement.

Good ideas SilentG. I'm keeping acid out though. I can't see acid burning through stone (Probably me, but whatever).
Any more questions??

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Originally posted by AesophDarkfable

Not that it should change the upcoming scenario, but ill be sitting out the spiderqueen thing as it just has too much stuff. I really like the more simple straight forward scenarios, saving these more complex ones for just an every now and then thing.

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Originally posted by AesophDarkfable

Not that it should change the upcoming scenario, but ill be sitting out the spiderqueen thing as it just has too much stuff. I really like the more simple straight forward scenarios, saving these more complex ones for just an every now and then thing.

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Awww - that's like a slap in the face, Aesoph. I'll let you know how awesome it was.

You really think it's that complicated? Web effect if you activate off a tile, tough NPC, cruddy NPCs - all activated one at a time by either player in place of other units... can only activate a spider that's not within 6 of one of your guys (simulates the spider wanting to eat whoever's closest) unless an opponent is also within 6. Place spiders randomly and evenly across feature tiles - queen in center on rock shrine.

I know it's got a bit to it, but I think I summed it all up in a short paragraph.

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Originally posted by ShadowLord XT
1st ring on the hill is normal movement. 2nd and 3rd rings cost 2 movement like difficult terrain. Trees and statues are considered difficult terrain and moving on them on the 2nd or 3rd ring doesn't cost any extra movement. The fog is located on the entire 2nd ring. When on the 3rd ring or on the top of the hill, a mini can see over the fog. The top of the hill is normal movement.

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Originally posted by eMpTy Kay

Question for next weeks "into the web" scenario.

May be obvious, but do the spiders count for VP purpose? I would think so, but it does not explicitly state they do.

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Originally posted by eMpTy Kay

Question on this weeks scenario:

One of my opponents is CG and has Rikka as a Lt in a 125pt game. Now, if Rikka is going to use Waylay and is off the board at the start of the game, technically she counts as victory points. Therefore the score could be 31-0 at the first inititive. 31 is more than 20% for the match (need only 25 for the 125 pt match) so would I get the quick boon as well? so the score at the first init would be 56 - 0? (I would drop by 31 points when Rikka came in, but I would still have the Boon.)

Or is Rikki an exception to this rule?

I can't really see it as fair either way it is ruled, since the CG player can keep Rikka "safe" from attack until the boon was scored, give him the advantage since there would be fewer targets for me to score by.

Overall I would say it should be ruled that rikka would give the boon if using waylay, since waylay is optional, as well as being optional to use Rikka.

Will post this is this weeks thread as well since could matter to other players as well.

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Question on this weeks scenario:

One of my opponents is CG and has Rikka as a Lt in a 125pt game. Now, if Rikka is going to use Waylay and is off the board at the start of the game, technically she counts as victory points. Therefore the score could be 31-0 at the first inititive. 31 is more than 20% for the match (need only 25 for the 125 pt match) so would I get the quick boon as well? so the score at the first init would be 56 - 0? (I would drop by 31 points when Rikka came in, but I would still have the Boon.)

Or is Rikki an exception to this rule?

I can't really see it as fair either way it is ruled, since the CG player can keep Rikka "safe" from attack until the boon was scored, give him the advantage since there would be fewer targets for me to score by.

Overall I would say it should be ruled that rikka would give the boon if using waylay, since waylay is optional, as well as being optional to use Rikka.

Will post this is this weeks thread as well since could matter to other players as well.

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Im in a similar situation and had thought of this, but wasnt gonna say anything :) but now that its brought up, yes you would get the boon. There have been several scenarios that favor one type of creature over another, this is just one that doesnt favor waylay.

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jjbeezer, is my senario going to be used?? I would like to see it used.
It sounded like it was going to work.

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Originally posted by Aravis

For next weeks scenario. What is the point of Lise other than to get in the way. If your going to kill her why is she not worth VP? I think that should be changed. And from the one game I played, 100 pts, it wasnt to fun cause Lise was annoying and just got in the way. Cool idea, Not to fun IMO. She will get in the way far to much and lower the power of ranged attacks and spells.

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Originally posted by Bleys

Working Title: Cave of Confusion
A cloud of confusion effects commanders in this place. All commanders must keep their wits about them for victory.
Special Rule: Commanders gain special ability Incite. If other creatures are incited, Commander must activate first. Commanders must roll a dc save upon each activation. If they fail, they are confused (roll on confusion table. Confused commanders cannot put others under command, lose commander effect, lose CR for MC, rally checks, and next round init, or make attacks of opportunity.
1-4 controlled by other player/confused
6-15 no action/confused
16-20 normal activation/confused

Map: Dragon's Hoard

Victory Conditions (standard eliminate pts equal to warband)

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Originally posted by Aravis

For next weeks scenario. What is the point of Lise other than to get in the way. If your going to kill her why is she not worth VP? I think that should be changed. And from the one game I played, 100 pts, it wasnt to fun cause Lise was annoying and just got in the way. Cool idea, Not to fun IMO. She will get in the way far to much and lower the power of ranged attacks and spells.

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The basis for this scenario comes from the Restless Dead scenario laid out in the Minis Handbook. (Place 1 zombie on each terrain tile, you can move a zombie instead of your unit, etc...) I have been trying to get a response from SilentG about VPs for the spiders and a few other questions.

I agree with the concern of the game turning into, "Please, spider, eat my opponent instead of me."

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Originally posted by Aravis

For next weeks scenario. What is the point of Lise other than to get in the way. If your going to kill her why is she not worth VP? I think that should be changed. And from the one game I played, 100 pts, it wasnt to fun cause Lise was annoying and just got in the way. Cool idea, Not to fun IMO. She will get in the way far to much and lower the power of ranged attacks and spells.

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The basis for this scenario comes from the Restless Dead scenario laid out in the Minis Handbook. (Place 1 zombie on each terrain tile, you can move a zombie instead of your unit, etc...) I have been trying to get a response from SilentG about VPs for the spiders and a few other questions.

I agree with the concern of the game turning into, "Please, spider, eat my opponent instead of me."

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Sorry I havn't been in touch.

I think that giving 5% of the warband total in VP for killing a spider of lolth and 20% for killing Liceusetryx should be fair.

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Originally posted by eMpTy Kay

I would agree that incited would be better. If you are rolling for confusion each turn for your whole warband, it could end up one player winning with never having to engage (if his opponent keeps rolling badly). I think using incited or something like that would be better.

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