lurch_E_bean
Underboss
1058 Posts
    
 | | 05/22/2005 11:37 PM |
| | recovered topic 3925 | |
Successful Trades (31) | Trades Pending (0)
12th Place in the 2005 Nationals, and I owe it all to the Minis Training Montage.
Champion of Celestial Giant Stag Beetles | |
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lurch_E_bean
Underboss
1058 Posts
| | 05/22/2005 11:37 PM |
| | Crap, forgot to sign up last week. Oh well, gives me time to work on my qualifier band. Anyway, if you still need one more, I'll put Alric in the mix if it's alright. He's guaranteed a level-up next time he plays. Also I have to avenge Urthok's 50 million losses to Mystique. | |
Successful Trades (31) | Trades Pending (0)
12th Place in the 2005 Nationals, and I owe it all to the Minis Training Montage.
Champion of Celestial Giant Stag Beetles | |
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jjbeezer
Sergeant
633 Posts
| | 05/23/2005 9:11 AM |
| Added lurch_E_bean (CG) vs Tullywi (LG).
Updated stats for the last week. Please check for accuracy.
Takasi, Pepro gained 1000 XP in your Week 17 game. This puts him at 2750 XP and level 2. Your report said he did not level. Which is correct?
Kiirnodel and Takasi, I need to know the status of your week 18 game. I will call it a draw when I start to make up the Week 20 schedule unless I hear something from you first.
To all, remember there is a penalty of Campaign Point loss for missing your game. This penalty would come into play when someone schedules a game by e-mail or on the board and then does not show up at that time. If follow up e-mails do not get a response from the person who missed the game, only then will the penalty be enforced. Personally, I do not want to do that. However, if you look at the bottom of the stats, those folks with negative scores provide a good reminder to not just skip out on your game.
Conceeding does not trigger the Campaign Point Loss effect. The results of conceeding a game are: 1) No one wonders when the game will take place, 2) both players get XP and an item, and 3) campaign administration is much easier. | |
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lurch_E_bean
Underboss
1058 Posts
| | 05/23/2005 11:20 AM |
| | Alric is level 2 currently, so my match with tullywi should be 100 pts. with tullywi getting 10 pts. of support units. | |
Successful Trades (31) | Trades Pending (0)
12th Place in the 2005 Nationals, and I owe it all to the Minis Training Montage.
Champion of Celestial Giant Stag Beetles | |
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Zippy
Underboss
1992 Posts
Whitewater, WI
| | 05/23/2005 8:37 PM |
| quote:
Also I have to avenge Urthok's 50 million losses to Mystique.
Make that "have to avenge everyone's 50 million losses to Mystique." | |
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Kiirnodel
Sergeant
484 Posts
| | 05/24/2005 1:38 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by jjbeezer
Kiirnodel and Takasi, I need to know the status of your week 18 game. I will call it a draw when I start to make up the Week 20 schedule unless I hear something from you first.
AH! In the process of finally getting settled in to the new home from college, getting my new job and travelling back to Bowling Green and back again, it slipped my mind until Zippy reminded me.
I'll e-mail Takashi to set up a time.
[edit:] I can't find Takasi's email adress, how do I contact Takasi? | |
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jjbeezer
Sergeant
633 Posts
| | 05/24/2005 8:37 AM |
| | Click on Takasi's blue name in the stats block. That should get you his e-mail address. If that does not work, hover your mouse over his blue name, and the e-mail address might show up on the bottom of your browser. | |
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jjbeezer
Sergeant
633 Posts
| | 05/24/2005 10:43 AM |
| Kyuketsuki, I sent you an e-mail yesterday. Please check and respond as Wednesday night will be my best night to play this week.
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Kyuketsuki
Warrior
183 Posts
| | 05/24/2005 10:49 AM |
| | Wendsday night is fine for me i meet you at 8 | |
in a world of eternal darkness theres no shadows to fear.
Kerwin Wolfheart was here | |
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Zippy
Underboss
1992 Posts
Whitewater, WI
| | 05/24/2005 11:40 AM |
| FYI: AngryIrish vs. Zippy/LG Wed 10 PM Central (GMT-5)
CHANGE: Started Tuesday Night, Vassal Connection issues may force us to complete tomorrow night. Game well underway | |
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rgrayua
Sergeant
400 Posts
| | 05/24/2005 1:50 PM |
| | Hi Zippy, How does Thursday or Friday at 9PM EST sound to you for our match? I can do 10PM on Friday evening if that is better. Thanks. | |
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Zippy
Underboss
1992 Posts
Whitewater, WI
| | 05/24/2005 4:26 PM |
| FYI: Thursday, 9PM EST / 10PM CST = rgrayua vs. zippy/LE
edit: Zippy has Broken Brain, see next post for REAL time... | |
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rgrayua
Sergeant
400 Posts
| | 05/24/2005 7:36 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Zippy
FYI: Thursday, 9PM EST / 10PM CST = rgrayua vs. zippy/LE
You've got this flipped, it should be 9PM CST / 10PM EST. I'm an hour ahead of you. | |
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Takasi
Warrior
287 Posts
| | 05/24/2005 11:25 PM |
| Kiirnodel, I haven't heard anything from you. Either email me, or preferably just post when you're available.
I can only play tonight, Wednesday, Thursday or Friday this week. I'm available after 6pm Pacific on any of these days. This weekend I'm going to Kublacon in San Francisco. (Anyone else here going?)
Aesoph and I are scheduled for Thursday at 7pm Pacific. Tullywi, let me know what day will work for you. I'm pretty sure the game with Aesoph will be a quick one, so if you want to play then at 9pm Pacific I can do that too. | |
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The Defenestrator
AesophDarkfable
Warlord
5628 Posts
| | 05/25/2005 1:01 AM |
| Winning Warlord: Dogface the Kobold Sorceror (AesophDarkfable)
Lt. Sniggums P. Snooty the Axe (Snig)
Winning Warband: Kobold Sorc., Snig+goblins skirmishersx3, Kobold Champion x2, Blue, Azer Raider. Human Thug, Goblin Skirmisher (support troops); Tiles: Assembly Tile Rubble, ancient temple, shrine of justice
XP: 500
Leveling: No
Lt: 250 to Sniggums P. Snooty
Item: Shield +1 of Command
Losing Warlord: Odge the Orc Sargent (+1 level, +1 attack, +10 HP)(Old Coast)
LT: None
Losing Warband: Orc Sargent (ring of cold immunity), Zombie White Dragon, Deathlok; assembly 6, broken wall, blood rock cave.
XP: 250
Leveling: No
Item: Ring of Charisma (+2 commander rating)
Item Lost: Ring of cold immunity, traded in
Logfile Uploaded
I was fearing an Orc champ cleaving through my little horde, instead the ZWD hit the table and I realized he didn't need to cleave, he can canopener for 10 at a time and just work through them in the forever it would take me to get him down. Luck was on my side. Second round he based an Champ and Azer with the Dragon with first activation. WIth my activations I then swarmed, flanked, and put some hurt on the dragon. Next round Dragon breathes. Takes out three Skirm, hits a thug that saved, and hits a Champ that doesnt save and routes (he already had a MM on him). Another round of hits (some misses this time, but still rolling well, except init, he won every init except the first). His Sarge comes in and does a few hits. Next he bases my sorceror and misses with the Sarge. Sorceror flameburst sarge fails save. Deathlok cause fears sorceror who fails save and routes. Sarge hits for 15. (weird route question I have to pose to Guy) Blue comes around hits sarge with mindthrust causing him to route. (he would keep routing) He hits Snig with Zomb, and MM him, but he makes his save (a big one) (round earlier he rolled 1 on attack on Snig). Kobold Champs finish off ZWD (Champ 2 made MC and came in charging). Azer charges Deathlok, hits for 10. Blue moves to flank, Snig comes in misses deathlok, Kobold Champ moves around and hits for kill.
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AngryIrish
Warrior
313 Posts
| | 05/25/2005 2:47 AM |
| ok, vassal is bein retarded. Its late and i was gettin my butt whopped anyhow, so zip, i'm gonna concede our match. Lets say that Kane just wasn't feelin it today and decided to leave his skelys to their doom. You win and get all the benefits. We'll roll for our items later. Does this sound good to you? if not, then we can finish it tomorrow or later. Too tired to think right now.[:(]
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"I'm feelin pretty good today. I don't think anything could make me angry"
"The English"
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Zippy
Underboss
1992 Posts
Whitewater, WI
| | 05/25/2005 3:10 AM |
| It is inevitable, Mister Anderson.
I was set up from the start with a huge advantage, having a Gold Dragon Facing the fire-based Red Wizard. I will post after we roll items - meet some EC person to vouch and for your rolls sometime this week (tomorrow night?) and let me know what you rolled up. I'll post and upload what fragmented logfile we have.
Woulda likely happened: Finish round with...healer moves to Dragon, one mino skel taken down by a horde of maa (etc.), SoH and one or more weenies base Kane. Next round healer +15HP on dragon, and dragon downs last mino skell and 1 zombie. Grim takes aoo, prob still above half, casts scare again and several weenies flee. Then weenies hit last zomb, and remainder swarms Kane. Tail of tale. | |
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Richard II
Commander
3663 Posts
| | 05/25/2005 8:48 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by AesophDarkfable
(weird route question I have to pose to Guy)
If the question is: Does a creature that's routing (ie from a fear spell) have to make another morale check if an aoo or other damage reduces it below half hp; then the answer is no. | |
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rgrayua
Sergeant
400 Posts
| | 05/25/2005 10:14 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by AesophDarkfable
Lt. Sniggums P. Snooty the Axe (Snig)
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Lt: 250 to Sniggums P. Snooty
General question--Can a creature with a Commander Rating be a Lieutenant? If so, I've made poor lt. choices thus far. | |
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jjbeezer
Sergeant
633 Posts
| | 05/25/2005 10:43 AM |
| Having or not having an existing commander rating does not effect a unit's ability to gain Lt. XP. The criteria is only Intellegence at 8 or above (from RPG side of card) and less than or equal to 35 points.
We also talked about the summons as a Lt. issue, but I don't remember off hand what we decided. | |
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Zippy
Underboss
1992 Posts
Whitewater, WI
| | 05/25/2005 11:47 AM |
| quote:
General question--Can a creature with a Commander Rating be a Lieutenant? If so, I've made poor lt. choices thus far.
LT must have:
Int 8 or more, not difficult or incited, 35 pts. or less, commander rating less than or equal to Warlord's CR, and was not eliminated from the battle (i.e. survived and stayed).
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Zippy
Underboss
1992 Posts
Whitewater, WI
| | 05/25/2005 12:33 PM |
| BATTLE REPORT: AngryIrish & Zippy/LG
Winning Warlord: Thea - Zippy/LG
Thea's warband: Assy Rubble-Torture Chmaber-Treasure Room / Thea (Vest of Combat Casting, +1 Shield DR5), 2x HDW, 2 x MAA, Gold Dragon / {support} 4 x MAA
Experience gained: Thea +1000XP, +1500 Campaign Pts.
Leveling: Thea gains +1 level (+5HP, []Prayer)
Lieutenant XP: Ghanooj the Healer gains +500XP
Lieutenant leveling: none
Magic item gained: (Med).Cloak of Striding (Speed +2)
Magic item lost: none
Defeated Warlord: Kane - AngryIrish
Kane's Warband: Kane (ioun stone of major fire resist), red wizard (potion of sprinting), Gamora the Blue, Blue, deathlock, mongrelfolk / assy #6, intersection, mushroom tangle
Experience Gained: 250 XP & 250 Campaign Pts.
Warlord's leveling options: none
Magic item gained: unknown item
Magic item lost: unknown item
BATTLE SUMMARY
As Kane approached the open battlefield, a thick bead of sweat formed on his brow. He'd brought his trusted Blue, Gamora, and with them a reknowned Red Wizard. Thea was fielding human and dwarven foot soldiers, a healer, and a powerful gold dragon. The gold was recruited to handle the gauth or red wizard Kane was expected to bring in tow.
Thea's troops assembled in tight formation in one of the few protected rooms in the dungeon, awaiting the approach of Kane's forces. The Gold scouted the area, and took the opportunity to attack a stray mongrelfolk. The gold was also in the open to draw enemy spell fire and test tjhe opposition's abilities. As Kane's troops headed North and across the dungeon toward Thea, they spotted the dragon and let loose several potent magic missile shots. The gold bit down on the mongrelfolk and headed back to base for full healing.
Meanwhile, Kane had summoned his trademark undead entourage, including a pair of towering horned skeletons and a couple of zombies. The red wizard held back in reserve as Kane's cluster of minions approached Thea's defensible room. As the psions and spellcasters moved into position, the dragon streaked forth and charred both blues and the deathlock into smoldering, crisp heaps on the stone floor. One minotaur skeleton was badly burned as well.
Thea gave the charge order and a host of footsoldiers poored out, shielded from the wizard's dangerous fireballs by the dragon. Thea herself summoned a pair of Azers to assist in toppling the skeletons. A confusing melee ensued, the dragon charged the wizard inflicting a severe bit. The burnt skeleton charged the dragon, landing a deep wound with its oversized axe. As the wizard retreated, the dragon bite again. Finally, the badly wounded dragon was able to pounce on the wizard to remove the fireball threat.
Kane headed away from the dragon, using a scare on four of Thea's common solders, causing only one to flee - Thea's command presence was strong, and the call to stand ground was heeded well. With one skeleton an inch from destruction and the other surrounded by troops ready to strike at will, Kane invoked a self preservation retreat. A healer was en route to the gold and likely to restore its health, his wizard lay eviscerated in a spreading pool of red blood, both skeletons faced imminent demise, and with only a pair of zombies for protection, Kane left the dungeon in haste to recruit new foul creatures.
AngryIrish played very well, using his commander effects to great advantage, but based on band composition was not able to unleash the most potent fireball spells from the wizard. It was still an exciting match, as one slip of placement, movement calculation, or LOS could have been disastrous for the swarm of low level LG's. The file upload will be incomplete, as Vassal was not cooperative last night. | |
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The Defenestrator
AesophDarkfable
Warlord
5628 Posts
| | 05/25/2005 1:31 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Richard II
quote:
Originally posted by AesophDarkfable
(weird route question I have to pose to Guy)
If the question is: Does a creature that's routing (ie from a fear spell) have to make another morale check if an aoo or other damage reduces it below half hp; then the answer is no.
Yeah it was, it didn't end up mattering as Dogface failed the next morale anyway. But I went to Guy for a clarifiation just in case and got it. You are correct sir. | |
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Kiirnodel
Sergeant
484 Posts
| | 05/25/2005 1:50 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Takasi
Kiirnodel, I haven't heard anything from you. Either email me, or preferably just post when you're available.
I can only play tonight, Wednesday, Thursday or Friday this week. I'm available after 6pm Pacific on any of these days. This weekend I'm going to Kublacon in San Francisco. (Anyone else here going?)
Aesoph and I are scheduled for Thursday at 7pm Pacific. Tullywi, let me know what day will work for you. I'm pretty sure the game with Aesoph will be a quick one, so if you want to play then at 9pm Pacific I can do that too.
I still am lacking your e-mail address.
I work 3rd shift here, and all of those days I work and during those times... shall we call it a draw? | |
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Zippy
Underboss
1992 Posts
Whitewater, WI
| | 05/25/2005 3:17 PM |
| ZIPPY/LG POST EC19 UPDATE
Warlord: Thea the Sword of Heironeus, XP: 3500 (+3 Lvl, +15 HP, +1 CR, [] Cause Fear (1st), [] Summon Monster II (2nd), [] Prayer (3rd))
Lt: Aramil, Adventurer, XP: 500
Gus the Sword of Glory, XP: 500
Healer Ghanooj, XP: 500
Faction: LG
Magic Items:
(Maj).Vest of Combat Casting
(Med).+1 Shield of Minor Invulnerability (DR 5)
(Med).Cloak of Striding (Speed +2)
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AngryIrish
Warrior
313 Posts
| | 05/25/2005 5:39 PM |
| Yo jjbeez
I sent you a logfile of my roll for my item. It is saved under angryirish rolls. If you want me to do it again, then i will, but i thought this might save time. | |
"I'm feelin pretty good today. I don't think anything could make me angry"
"The English"
"AAAAARRRRGGGGGG" | |
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Takasi
Warrior
287 Posts
| | 05/25/2005 5:52 PM |
| quote:
I work 3rd shift here, and all of those days I work and during those times... shall we call it a draw?
Well, if you can't make it then I guess we have to call it a draw.
For the future, my email is eberron@comcast.net. You can also post on these boards at any time letting me know when you're available. I listed plenty of times last week and this week to play. | |
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Zippy
Underboss
1992 Posts
Whitewater, WI
| | 05/25/2005 7:44 PM |
| I also saved a logfile for rolls - will upload tomorrow it's on my work laptop.
EDIT: file uploaded as a week 19 file. | |
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tullywi
Sergeant
982 Posts
| | 05/25/2005 8:12 PM |
| Hello Takasi,
I don't think I will be able to play Thursday night. Let's plan on Friday night 9PM CST. If you are on the West Coast, that is 7 PM your time.
Thanks | |
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Kiirnodel
Sergeant
484 Posts
| | 05/25/2005 8:17 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Takasi
quote:
I work 3rd shift here, and all of those days I work and during those times... shall we call it a draw?
Well, if you can't make it then I guess we have to call it a draw.
For the future, my email is eberron@comcast.net. You can also post on these boards at any time letting me know when you're available. I listed plenty of times last week and this week to play.
Crap, I usually e-mail the person about it, or if I can't find the e-mail, wait for them to e-mail me, sorry about that. I do see that you posted [:I] | |
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Zippy
Underboss
1992 Posts
Whitewater, WI
| | 05/26/2005 11:33 AM |
| Perhaps this has been covered before, if so I apologize:
Do support troops count against the normal 12 creature limit?
Also, if support troops do not count against the 12 limit, it is possible to have more creatures than fit on an assembly tile - what then?
TIA! | |
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jjbeezer
Sergeant
633 Posts
| | 05/26/2005 11:41 AM |
| Support troops do not count toward the 12 unit limit for a warband. If all of the warband troops and support troops do not fit on an assembly tile, place them on the first squares outside the assembly tile. This placement should begin as closely as possible to a place where the figures could legally move off the assembly tile and onto the battle grid.
If anyone knows of an offical ruling on this issue, please post it or the link to it. Otherwise (for the rare chance this comes up) lets go with this answer. | |
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rgrayua
Sergeant
400 Posts
| | 05/26/2005 2:02 PM |
| I haven't seen an official rule on the subject either, I think your answer is fine, as long as we stipulate that every available space on the assembly tile is filled before we flow over to the battle grid. I suppose the highest you could go under standard rules would be 24 creatures (12 Graycloak Rangers + 12 wolf minions) or maybe 23 (11 Graycloaks + 11 wolves + Commander). In the campaign if 75 is the highest level of support troops, I suppose we could go as high as 37 creatures (12 regular + 25 Orc Warriors support) that would be a funny sight.
Zippy--Am I going to get swarmed with Goblins tonight? | |
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The Defenestrator
AesophDarkfable
Warlord
5628 Posts
| | 05/26/2005 3:06 PM |
| Takasi (CG) has a level on me, shouldnt that mean I get 7pt support troops in a 75 pt match? It says NIL. Just a little confused on how this works.
Or since he's level 2 shouldnt it be 100 pts with 10 pts of support troops? | |
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jjbeezer
Sergeant
633 Posts
| | 05/26/2005 4:06 PM |
| AesophDarkfable has caught an error. I typed the matchup before I saw Takasi's week 17 results update. Then I forgot to update it once I updated his level (since his game was done before this week started). I sent you both an e-mail to help prevent suprise at you meeting this week.
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Zippy
Underboss
1992 Posts
Whitewater, WI
| | 05/26/2005 5:45 PM |
| quote:
Zippy--Am I going to get swarmed with Goblins tonight?
Yes! Goboswarm! (<--reverse psychology, get ready for Soth! Or is THIS reverse reverse psychology!?)
Actually, this is a theoretical question, since I can bring at most 28 squares of creatures and the smallest assembly tile has 33 open squares.
But, for a level 10 warlord vs. level 7, 300pt band with 12 creatures and 30 x 3 = 90 support points, in theory we could see a band of 12 + 11 minions + 30 support weenies = 53 creatures, which by the rules is ok right now. Consider a fireball wiping out 44 creatures in one blast. GoboKabobS! | |
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rgrayua
Sergeant
400 Posts
| | 05/26/2005 8:46 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Zippy
quote:
Zippy--Am I going to get swarmed with Goblins tonight?
Consider a fireball wiping out 44 creatures in one blast. GoboKabobS!
I had the same thought when you posed the question, a Fireball would be brutal. | |
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TKort
Sergeant
583 Posts
| | 05/26/2005 9:38 PM |
| Maybe this topic has gone on too far already :).. but what the heck:
I'm not gonna do the math, but I bet you could push the space on your entry tile by putting a few large guys or even a huge or two in.. a few treants fill the space pretty good :). I guess it'd be tough just because they are such high point guys usually.. maybe in a 500 pointer :). A level 10 commander could have 6 treants in his 300 point army and maybe even still have room for a few peons.. that's pushing 60 squares :).
Also, I will officially hate anyone who brings 6 treants into a battle with me :).
Tkort.
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Zippy
Underboss
1992 Posts
Whitewater, WI
| | 05/26/2005 9:45 PM |
| | Yes 28 is the max squares my Urthok-based 150 pt with 15 support band could cover, but a 300 pt band with a couple treants and a slough of GC's could cover more than one assy tile easily, which is why I asked the question. | |
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jjbeezer
Sergeant
633 Posts
| | 05/26/2005 9:46 PM |
| Good news to all!
The new errata posted on the Wizards site discusses this exact issue! | |
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