Ack
Underboss
1476 Posts
    
 | | 11/05/2005 11:44 PM |
| | recovered topic 10997 | |
Minis... Serious Business
Completed Trades (18 ) | Pending Trades (0)
Ebay seller to Avoid –Fantasy_Quest_Dist
| |
|
Ack
Underboss
1476 Posts
| | 11/05/2005 11:44 PM |
| | spider swarm kicks ass. 15 points and one of the best speed bumps ever. Make them waste a spell or devote alot of time beating on it. regardless of the low DC, its worth the shot to get the poison off. You are definately getting your points value out of the swarm. | |
Minis... Serious Business
Completed Trades (18 ) | Pending Trades (0)
Ebay seller to Avoid –Fantasy_Quest_Dist
| |
|
Darthrau
Underboss
2233 Posts
| | 11/06/2005 12:59 AM |
| | If you trample and your opponent take AoO he's auto poisoned. I believe unless it's been changed if you trample and your opponent attacks he takes the auto damage. | |
Champion of Jarlaxle
Sets:
Star Wars Year one complete,44/60 Champions of the Force,0/60 Bounty Hunters | |
|
DDM Australian Champion 2005
psistef
Underboss
1572 Posts
| | 11/06/2005 3:15 AM |
| | Really? Auto-poison? How so? | |
Champion of the Prestige Class where mages focus on telekenesis and start throwing people into the ceiling and uber stuff like that.
Desirer of a Commander Effect in CG that grants Sidestep to followers with a ranged attack. | |
|
The Great
Choco Monster
Ghendar
Warlord
12346 Posts
The G Spot
| | 11/06/2005 8:07 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Ack
Make them waste a spell or devote alot of time beating on it.
Yeah, and if you've got someone behind it adding some healing it gets downright annoying. Hmmm, I wonder who would do that? | |
WotC - making me wish more and more every day for a return to the TSR days. :(
I fought the snark and the snark won. I'm baaaaaaaaaaack!
Some of my favorite Maxminis quotes
I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM
Could somebody explain Snatch to me? I understand the basics, but not how to enter/use it. - Posted by orcmonk220
G's the man. - Posted By greyhaze on 11/11/2008 8:58 AM
| |
|
eMpTy Kay
Underboss
1068 Posts
| | 11/06/2005 8:53 AM |
| quote:
Posted - 11/06/2005 : 12:59:58 AM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you trample and your opponent take AoO he's auto poisoned. I believe unless it's been changed if you trample and your opponent attacks he takes the auto damage.
Are you thinking about RPG rules? To my knowledge there is not auto damage for taking an AoO from the trample.
If you trample the creature, he would still get to roll against the poison DC, even if he took a AoO. | |
| |
|
eMpTy Kay
Underboss
1068 Posts
| | 11/06/2005 8:54 AM |
| | Getting back to the topic, I would use the trample. In fact in the prerelease I trampled a Xorn and moved next to three other units and use the swarm attack (Nothing poisoned, but it was fun). | |
| |
|
Fry
Underboss
1724 Posts
| | 11/06/2005 11:25 AM |
| If they fail the save against the trample, they are automatically poisoned (there's not a separate roll for the poison save in that case). This is in Guy's clarifications, IIRC.
Unless you really, really need that extra square or two of movement, Sam, you may as well take the trample on the big guy. | |
"Why am I all sticky and naked? Did I miss something fun?"
-Vindicated champion of Tordek, Dwarf Champion | |
|
Zippy
Underboss
1993 Posts
Whitewater, WI
| | 11/06/2005 11:41 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Fry
If they fail the save against the trample, they are automatically poisoned (there's not a separate roll for the poison save in that case). This is in Guy's clarifications, IIRC.
Unless you really, really need that extra square or two of movement, Sam, you may as well take the trample on the big guy.
Correct, the trample save IS the poison save in this case. Note you may only trample one creature per turn. | |
There are 10 kinds of people in the world; those who understand binary, and those who don't.
Reference Thread, H/W List, Champion of the Catoblepas | |
|
Liquidburn
Sergeant
944 Posts
| | 11/06/2005 1:56 PM |
| | I think the spider swarm is cool because it is such a pain to kill, unless they want to devote a lot of melee to it or waste some spells on it. Either way for 15 points he's not bad. | |
Jason Slingerland
"Why do I have to be Mr. Pink?" | |
|
Bert the Troll
Commander
3964 Posts
Adelaide
| | 11/06/2005 6:29 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Ghendar
quote:
Originally posted by Ack
Make them waste a spell or devote alot of time beating on it.
Yeah, and if you've got someone behind it adding some healing it gets downright annoying. Hmmm, I wonder who would do that?
The first time I used the swarm it started almost next to me. So I was hiding behind a blurred & macgic weaponed mass of spiders ;) It lasted a long time. | |
"Mutton yesterday, mutton today, and blimey, if it don't look like mutton again tomorrer." Bert the Troll - The Hobbit
Semi-Secret sig business: "In the age of the internet attaching a famous name to your personal opinion to give more weight to it is a very valid strategy." - Benjamin Franklin
Champion of Epic Lolth, Orcus, & Demogorgon and bring us Asmodeus! | |
|
Sean-Khan
Commander
2720 Posts
| |
eMpTy Kay
Underboss
1068 Posts
| | 11/06/2005 7:24 PM |
| Formless is the ability that any ranged or melee attack deals only 5 damage at most, so the Orc Champ hits the swarm for 5pt, just like the Man-at-Arms.
The Spider Swarm is a one shot use that makes all adjacent creatures make a save against the Swarms Poison (DC12) or they are poisoned. | |
| |
|
Darthrau
Underboss
2233 Posts
| | 11/06/2005 7:31 PM |
| | I'm wrong sorry. | |
Champion of Jarlaxle
Sets:
Star Wars Year one complete,44/60 Champions of the Force,0/60 Bounty Hunters | |
|