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01/05/2006 1:00 PM  
I have an archmage band but he's hard to run, so how bout;
Nentyar Hunter x1(47)
Longstrider Ranger x2(68)
Xen'Drik Champions x2(46)
Elf Stalker x2(30)
Sharn Cutthroat x1(9)
200 pts. 8 act.
I know range bands are on the way out but they seem to be more forgiving to new players on tactics. Damage output is not super high but is almost all magic dmg.The 4 hitters are durable and 5 of the units benefit from the CFX.Three units have conceal.And the 2 melee hitters can outrun gith monks.Best of all 7 of the 8 have an 11 or better BAB. You could sub a wood woad for an elf if u need a better blocker, or a Half-Ogre Barb could be swapped for a Xen'Drik if u drop the Sharn for an elf warrior or wild elf raider if a better dmg.beater is your thing.I think the Xen'Drik is a better choice though for his dual roles. A mobile band, shoot and move till u get a good spot on the map for a massive arrow volley.It might keep activation control as this group will chew up fodder quickly.
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01/05/2006 1:20 PM  
Bah, core unit was GoL...

Thinking.

Ok, there goes

1x Greenfang Druid
1x Dire Bear
1x Celestial Pegasus
1x Winter Wolf
1x Timber Wolf
3x Elf Stalker

Cast Regenerate on the Bear and Pegasus. Ping with the Stalkers, breath on fodder with the Winter Wolf.



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01/05/2006 2:16 PM  
20 hours to go.

And I don't see enough CE bands entries.

C'mon, there are still some interesting CE builds I haven't seen yet.

Where are the Grimlock Barbs/Drow Arcane Guard, Orc Wolf Shaman/Dire Bear, and Hezrou/Chuul builds? [:p]

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01/05/2006 2:24 PM  
I stand by my Hezrou / MDP and Ryld/Xendrik builds.

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01/05/2006 2:43 PM  
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I stand by my Hezrou / MDP and Ryld/Xendrik builds.



I can accept only one though. [:I]

Will it be the Hezrou/MDP then?


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01/05/2006 9:32 PM  
Here's my contribution:POWER OF DROW BAND

x1 Drow Arachnomancer (52)
x1 Large Deep Dragon (67)
x1 Drow Arcane Guard (25)
x1 Xen'drik Champion (23)
x2 Spider of Lolth (18)
x2 Lolths Sting (14)

8 activations
199 points

Dragon has Breath Weapon and 'Power of Drow' for +3 att to all drow. Drow Arcnae Guard has Cold Orbs & EMP Burn Hands. Spiders cause havoc.

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01/05/2006 10:10 PM  
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Originally posted by Nixlord

quote:
Originally posted by ChristopherGroves

I stand by my Hezrou / MDP and Ryld/Xendrik builds.



I can accept only one though. [:I]

Will it be the Hezrou/MDP then?





No, Ryld and the Xendriks is a far scarier band. It's a crapload of rares, but with all of those ranged attacks to support the melee ... I think it could be serious.

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01/05/2006 11:13 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by ChristopherGroves

quote:
Originally posted by Nixlord

quote:
Originally posted by ChristopherGroves

I stand by my Hezrou / MDP and Ryld/Xendrik builds.



I can accept only one though. [:I]

Will it be the Hezrou/MDP then?





quote:
No, Ryld and the Xendriks is a far scarier band. It's a crapload of rares, but with all of those ranged attacks to support the melee ... I think it could be serious.



great band to see in action, as long as ulmo is no were around.

But I think it will cost to much to build normaly. i mean if the champs are 10 $'s each thats 60 dollars for only the chams.

No, Ryld and the Xendriks is a far scarier band. It's a crapload of rares, but with all of those ranged attacks to support the melee ... I think it could be serious.


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01/06/2006 2:06 AM  
Nature's Beatdown

Frenzied Berserker CG 52 Ab 17/60 R
Greenfang Druid CG 50 Dk 19/60 R
Goliath Barbarian CG 31 Dk 18/60 R
Half-Ogre Barbarian CG 25 Ud 18/60 U
Winter Wolf CE 24 Ud 60/60 U
Wild Elf Raider CG 6 Af 29/60 C
Wild Elf Raider CG 6 Af 29/60 C
Timber Wolf ANY 5 Dk 27/60 C

You only have 2 beasts but even the Greenfang can mix it up sometimes especially when his friends stand next to him doing way more damage.

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01/06/2006 2:30 AM  
10 hours left.


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01/06/2006 2:56 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by Nixlord

20 hours to go.

And I don't see enough CE bands entries.

C'mon, there are still some interesting CE builds I haven't seen yet.

Where are the Grimlock Barbs/Drow Arcane Guard, Orc Wolf Shaman/Dire Bear, and Hezrou/Chuul builds? [:p]




Grimlock Barbs need the Tiefling. There's not enough good commanders other than Ryld and they absolutely need it to be most effective with their low level. Arcane Guard are ok tech piece but overall not as good a beater as it needs to be. You can swap one or two for other similarly costed figures in most warbands though. Orc Wolf Shaman just doesn't work in 8 figure and believe me I've tried him and he is nice in 12 figure but gets creamed in 8 figure. Chuul is too expensive.

Here's a Grimlock warband anyway as a secondary idea.

Ryld 55
Grimlock Barbarian X3 84
Drow Arcane Guard 25
Deathlock X3
200 points 8 act

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01/06/2006 9:45 AM  
Green Fury

-Greenfang Druid 50pts
-Frenzied Berserker X2 104pts
-Griffon 28 pts
-Timber Wolf X3 15pts
-Xeph Warrior 3 pts
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01/06/2006 10:29 AM  
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quote:
Originally posted by Nixlord

20 hours to go.

And I don't see enough CE bands entries.

C'mon, there are still some interesting CE builds I haven't seen yet.

Where are the Grimlock Barbs/Drow Arcane Guard, Orc Wolf Shaman/Dire Bear, and Hezrou/Chuul builds? [:p]




Grimlock Barbs need the Tiefling. There's not enough good commanders other than Ryld and they absolutely need it to be most effective with their low level. Arcane Guard are ok tech piece but overall not as good a beater as it needs to be. You can swap one or two for other similarly costed figures in most warbands though. Orc Wolf Shaman just doesn't work in 8 figure and believe me I've tried him and he is nice in 12 figure but gets creamed in 8 figure. Chuul is too expensive.



Right you are. But some of the builds I mentioned actually perform well against certain bands. For example, the Wolf Shaman or GFD/dual Dire Bears can sometimes be effective against medium damage/high AC bands like the Justice Archon/Gith Monk and Duergar/Helmed Horror/Chraal bands. Hezrou/Chuul bands can also be effective against FB/Goliath bands. I've played with and against them on vassal (piloted by Dagni, Kevizoid) and they're not that bad.

Still, my point was simply to ask for more variety. And thanks for obliging. [)]


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01/06/2006 2:32 PM  
OK Nix, I'll throw you a CE just because. I'm not sure how well it would work, but I think it is interesting.

Ryld (55)
Death Slaad (53)
Grimlock Barbarians x2 (56)
Drow Arcane Guard (25)
Orc Skeleton x2 (10)

199 points and 7 activations.

This looked interesting as the orc skellys and grimlocks can gain from Ryld and while not the fastest pieces can move. The Death Sladd adds a second commander and a cool ability with the rend. Drow Arcance Guard is an interesting tech piece. Conceal 11, 3 spells, reach 2, and not horrible stats.

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01/06/2006 2:34 PM  
Don't forget that the drow's spell also enables you to pull off the grimlock's attack bonus.

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01/06/2006 3:37 PM  
Closed.

No more entries are required.

Kindly wait for the voting thread.


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01/06/2006 3:47 PM  
A band that did very well at the championships can easily be tweaked for an 8 figure format, be tuned for the current metagame AND still fit the rules of this challange:

Orog Warlord 71
3 Chraal 35 x3
Kobold Sorc 20
Kobold Miner 3
Mountain Orc minion - free
Mongrelfolk minion - free

8 activations, access to 3 MW spells for the chraals allowing them to swing at +14 if needed, with 3 fast hitters, and a kobold miner for lucky T1 tile points.

For maps I would choose the drow outpost or mushroom cavern. The band should hold up against most of the field. Having the kobold Sorc for MW spells strengthens it against the expected justice archon/couatl combo.



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01/06/2006 3:48 PM  
Doh, I was typing as you closed it. [:(]

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01/06/2006 4:04 PM  
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Doh, I was typing as you closed it. [:(]



Heh, even if you got it in time, it woudn't have mattered. [:p]

No LE warband is allowed. The parameters are on the opening post.

But if you can come up with something else, just post it in. I'll allow yours.


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01/06/2006 7:06 PM  
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quote:
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Doh, I was typing as you closed it. [:(]



Heh, even if you got it in time, it woudn't have mattered. [:p]

No LE warband is allowed. The parameters are on the opening post.

But if you can come up with something else, just post it in. I'll allow yours.





got some work here with all these bands holy, I just hope just more then this votes. thxs nixlord!

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01/07/2006 9:52 AM  
doh! Forgot about that part. Read the rules 2 days ago then posted yesterday. Just ignore mine.

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