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01/31/2006 7:59 AM  
Counted the votes (those in the thread and those directed to my email) and we have a winner by a slim margin ...

The Minotaur Labyrinth
by Robbdaman



The Forgotten Causeway was only a handful of votes behind (four).




Thanks to the submitters and to the MaxMinis community for voting!

Rob / Chad - can I ask you guys to get together and work out whatever file-exchanges neccessary to get the final, printable version in-progress!

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01/31/2006 8:04 AM  
Congrats Robbdaman!

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01/31/2006 9:08 AM  
Very nice map. Congrats.

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01/31/2006 9:23 AM  
Congrats!

So we had a close vote, that is excellent. We may have to do this again for Gencon.

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01/31/2006 10:42 AM  
Congrats to Robbdaman! And of course to the other participants--real quality entrants!

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01/31/2006 1:29 PM  
Thanks guys! I'd like to thank Jesus and the Academy and all you wonderful fans for your support! [:p]

I hope it brings you all fun games. I'm anxious to test it out myself now.

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01/31/2006 1:33 PM  
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Congrats!

So we had a close vote, that is excellent. We may have to do this again for Gencon.



I agree! This is another great way to have the MaxMini's Events standout. Draft, and custom map! We'll probalby have the GenCon Info going up right after WF. First order of business will be assessing how the map went at WF (i.e. Chad: did it cost a little as you expect, and can you do it again!), and starting a new contest.

I have my own idea for that one...

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01/31/2006 1:40 PM  
Congartulations Robbdaman!

There was some discussion on whether we should switch the top victory areas for this map. Shall we come to an agreement on that? Also, do we want the new sandy floor version or the old stone/brick floor version? I personally vote for the sandy floor but I haven't printed it out yet. I'll try to do that tonight.

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01/31/2006 1:41 PM  
Then you can run the one for GenCon Pat ...

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01/31/2006 1:47 PM  
Rob can you lighten up the grid a bit? There are some walls and grid lines that are close to the same thickness that can be difficult to discern which is which. Also, can the triangles and other markers be made to be the same size? Can you remove the ones that are straddling two spaces and put a triangle in each square? These changes would make it a lot better IMO. Does anyone else agree or not? Sorry if I sound nitpicky.

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01/31/2006 1:51 PM  
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Rob can you lighten up the grid a bit? There are some walls and grid lines that are close to the same thickness that can be difficult to discern which is which. Also, can the triangles and other markers be made to be the same size? Can you remove the ones that are straddling two spaces and put a triangle in each square? These changes would make it a lot better IMO. Does anyone else agree or not? Sorry if I sound nitpicky.



Agree w/Chad. I voted for Rob's map, and it's amazing, but just like any great masterpiece, it could use a little polish! I agree w/using the sandy-floor version too. Congrats to Rob on the map.

And congrats to whatever crazy wacko thought of this contest. [:p]

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01/31/2006 1:51 PM  
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Then you can run the one for GenCon Pat ...



It would be my plesaure Chris. I'd have started this one, but you jumped out in front! [)]

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01/31/2006 2:02 PM  
For clarity and simplicity, sure. That way it won't confuse anyone. I know where all the different terrain is why don't you? [:p] I'll make the grid hot pink, that way you'll know where it is for sure. [:o)]

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01/31/2006 2:06 PM  
If I print out 20 copies of the Maxminis draft tournament map for Gen Con Indy does that grant me a spot in the National Championship Tournament? :P

Seriously though, I don't see any reason why I can't do this again for Gen Con Indy. The teacher with the plotter and I are good friends/co-workers and I always offer to pay for any additional costs my excessive printing would cost his department. So far he has been very agreeable and accommodating.

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01/31/2006 2:32 PM  
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quote:
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Then you can run the one for GenCon Pat ...



It would be my plesaure Chris. I'd have started this one, but you jumped out in front! [)]

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Great! You start the map thread and I'll start the info thread and we'll both be crazy by Gencon!

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01/31/2006 4:39 PM  
So, what's this mean? It's the only map to be used for the draft event? And, who is supplying the maps?

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01/31/2006 5:35 PM  
Chad,

Let me know how much you need to 1) help defer the costs of the maps and 2) to get my very own Robbdaman original work of art![:D]

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01/31/2006 6:30 PM  
Here is the revised map for use. It's crisper and cleaner all around. Hope you guys enjoy!

http://www.filegone.com/dtkr

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01/31/2006 8:34 PM  
Kith:

You can check the Meetingplace forum for details. But yes, to mix things up, the MaxMinis Draft event at Winter Fantasy will be played on this custom map.

Chad has offered to get the printed up, and several people have jumped in to help defray the costs. Chad has also indicated (correct me if I'm wrong) that he will be laminating a few of them, and they will end up in the prize pool at the end of the night.

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01/31/2006 11:10 PM  
Robbdaman;
Thanks for making and sharing this (and other) maps.

I particularly like the Layrinth for several reasons.

1. No line of sight between the starting areas, and possible but difficult to achieve in first turn.

2. Tactical applications for engagement. (Ranged and melee both applicable)

3. First turn assault points difficult but possible to achieve.

4. No strong advantage taking one side over the other

Not to mention that the map seems balanced, aesthetically pleasing, and breaks the 'game rules' in a significant manner that allows more figures to be playable, without overwhelming power.

Having said that, I might try an Umber Hulk on this map! Cursed Spirit seems to be powerful also...

Nice work.


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02/01/2006 11:43 AM  
That is an amazing map, and I might order one online if there was a place to do so. Wow, I really wish I had the s/w, know-how, and ability to create things like that. Amazing.

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02/01/2006 12:43 PM  
I shall print about 20 copies in total. I think I can get about six to ten of them laminated. I shall throw two laminated versions into the prize pool. The remaining copies will be for sale afterwards to anyone at the event to be applied to my printing/laminating costs only - (No markup or profit for me). We just need to be careful about selling stuff in the gaming area, I don't know what the legality of that would be. Is there anyone going to Winter Fantasy that will have a vendor table?


Non-laminated full color printout on 22"x34" sheet - $2.00
Laminated full color printout on 22"x34" sheet - $10.00



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CShroder - I count you as a friend so email me with a number of how many copies you want.

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02/01/2006 2:49 PM  
Don't I get one? [:D]

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02/01/2006 3:19 PM  
Chad:

I've only been to WF since DDM came out.

2 years ago they had Chessex, and Neutral ground as vendors. Last year it was ONLY WotC selling product. I don't think that anyone would get worked up if you sell your maps (assuming that Robbdamon doesn't...).


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02/01/2006 4:12 PM  
@Robbdaman
Of course you do!! I was expecting to give you a copy of your own map, you don't have to ask.

Will you be at Winter Fantasy? I'll give you a free laminated copy or two when I meet you. Whatever you need. Anything for such a great designer like you.

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02/01/2006 4:14 PM  
Oh, by the way, I just printed out a copy of the final version and it looks really nice. I just might convince my local DDM group to try it out this Saturday.

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02/01/2006 5:50 PM  
Let's not laminate robs ... let's sign the back first for him ...

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02/01/2006 6:39 PM  
Sadly I'm far from the DC area and in the middle of a semester at school. Oh an being a broke college student doesn't help much. I wish I could go but alas that's not in the card for the moment (I can't afford more than one card) [:p]. I will work on getting to GenCon SoCal later this year though. If I plan it early I'll be able to go and have my best friend there as well.

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02/01/2006 8:39 PM  
Ok we'll get everyone who plays to sign one and then I'll take it home and laminate it and mail it to him.

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02/01/2006 8:44 PM  
Sweet! I really wish I could be there. If my student loan and grants go through and I could find a cheap as heck flight maybe but that's highly doubtful. Plus I should probably spend that money on the tuition and living expenses I owe huh? [:D]

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02/01/2006 10:25 PM  
Fantastic map :)
Thanks for creating it.

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02/02/2006 11:31 AM  
I agree, we should all sign the mapand sent it to Rob. Maybe if they have a good promo we can try and grab and extra for him as well for his hard work. Chad add and extra regular map to my tab for Rob and I'll handle shipping it after Winterfantasy. Chad, I'll send you an email about it.

Thanks again everybody!

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02/03/2006 6:04 PM  
I'd like to get a copy of this map. I'm best friends with Rob. I'll pay your printing, lamination, and extra shipping costs if you put an extra one in with the one you ship to him. I can pay with Paypal, check or money order whatever you prefer.

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02/03/2006 11:54 PM  
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I'd like to get a copy of this map. I'm best friends with Rob. I'll pay your printing, lamination, and extra shipping costs if you put an extra one in with the one you ship to him. I can pay with Paypal, check or money order whatever you prefer.

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Yeah and charge him double while you're at it! No! Make it triple! [:p]
Actually if you shipped out in a poster tube you can just send mine and his pretty easily I would guess.

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02/05/2006 12:03 AM  
Just to let you know of the status. I have 11 copies printed out so far. I do about 3-4 a day. My co-worker will do some of the laminating for me this week.

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02/05/2006 12:09 AM  
I took a copy of the Minotaur Labyrinth to our monthly DDM tournament on Saturday to try it out. I have to say it plays out pretty nicely. The hallways approaching the blood rock are narrow but there are enough route choices to reach the middle that you don't feel cramped. The large spike stones area can be a nice safe stopping point for a flying piece as there are too many spikes to cross for a ground piece to attempt to penetrate it.

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02/05/2006 12:55 AM  
Good to hear!

I can't wait to play on it!

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02/06/2006 8:44 AM  
I can't wait to try it out. This was a great idea for the Maxminis event to do a map contest and it seems to have worked out fantasticly. We'll get the next round of stuff started for Gencon once we are done with Winterfantasy.

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02/06/2006 8:51 PM  
Very cool, Robbdaman. Makes me wish I could go.
I'm VERY interested in a copy if someone starts selling them (Chad!).

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02/07/2006 8:27 PM  
Damn i wish i could go to WF... even more play in the maxmini event it was realy a blast last time (plus this time there would be a realy cool map)... ah well there alway next year

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