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Gristlemane
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 | | 02/07/2006 12:18 AM |
| Here's the link:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mi/20060202b
I am generally a poor skirmisher, and some of the decisions made in the article didn't make sense to me. So could someone who is a better skirmish player than me explain why the players made the following decisions?
1) Why would you keep Guenhwyvar (who has pounce) out a charging lane and leave the Draegloth, Duergar Champ, Troglodyte, etc. open to being charged?
2) Why in the world would you charge the Gith Monk with the Draegloth instead of going after the Half-Orc Paladin? Isn't the whole point of picking the Tomb of Queen Peregrin in that situation the fact that the Half-Orc doesn't have anywhere to hide?
3) Why would you base the Gith Monk with Lolth's Sting? Is it really worth the risk to try to put the monk to sleep?
4) Why would you bother attacking the giant and not the Half-orc paladin? There's no way you're getting through the giant's hp with a gold dwarf and a duergar champ with healing right next to the thing. | |
It's deja vu all over again. | |
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Sharn Inquisitor
Underboss
1623 Posts
| | 02/07/2006 9:56 AM |
| | Articles about WotC folks skirmishing, like the Combat Medic make me believe that actual employees don't play the skirmish game very often. I'm sure many of them do Magic and the RPG, but skirmish is probably a new thing for them. | | | |
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Tactician
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888 Posts
| | 02/07/2006 10:10 AM |
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Originally posted by Sharn Inquisitor
Articles about WotC folks skirmishing, like the Combat Medic make me believe that actual employees don't play the skirmish game very often. I'm sure many of them do Magic and the RPG, but skirmish is probably a new thing for them.
I agree with you, besides who cares about what they do? They really don't care about us or they wouldn't have raised prices, not given us minis that we have been wanting for years (Gcube) | |
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aron1
Sergeant
415 Posts
| | 02/07/2006 2:39 PM |
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Originally posted by Tactician
I agree with you, besides who cares about what they do? They really don't care about us or they wouldn't have raised prices, not given us minis that we have been wanting for years (Gcube)
It's probably not my place to respond to this because I'm not a moderator, but that's just uncalled for. Steve Winter (Huscarl), the author of the article, cares enough about the DDM players that he solicited their input on the WOTC boards to help build his band. The DDM designers are frequently on the WOTC boards and here on Maxminis. Even some of the RPG designers and the Paizo guys show up occasionally on these boards. They obviously care, or else they wouldn't waste their time. Knowing that there's a decent chance that they will see what you write, it would be nice to show a little respect, and keep this board friendly enough that they're comfortable coming back.
Raising prices has nothing to do with caring about products or customers. Ignoring basic supply and demand, corporate profitability, commodity pricing, and currency fluctuations, you are aware of inflation, right? Over time, nearly everything costs more because your money is worth less. Prices on boosters are going to go up eventually. It's virtually guaranteed. I think they've done a good job of keeping prices as low as they have. Especially with energy, materials, and transportation prices going through the roof in the last few years.
And I think they've done a pretty good job about getting most of the high-demand monsters into miniatures form. The designers have stated in the past that they won't do a Gelatinous Cube miniature until they can make it look good, so for that one we have to wait until they're satisfied with the end product. | |
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Gristlemane
Sergeant
623 Posts
| | 02/07/2006 4:07 PM |
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Originally posted by Tactician
I agree with you, besides who cares about what they do? They really don't care about us or they wouldn't have raised prices, not given us minis that we have been wanting for years (Gcube)
The people at WotC really do play a lot, and my skirmish record of something like five and twenty eight forces me to second guess my natural reactions to things like this. I started the thread because I really thought there must be some reason behind the actions taken, not to bash the players. | |
It's deja vu all over again. | |
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Tactician
Sergeant
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Sharn Inquisitor
Underboss
1623 Posts
| | 02/07/2006 4:45 PM |
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Originally posted by Gristlemane
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Originally posted by Tactician
I agree with you, besides who cares about what they do? They really don't care about us or they wouldn't have raised prices, not given us minis that we have been wanting for years (Gcube)
The people at WotC really do play a lot, and my skirmish record of something like five and twenty eight forces me to second guess my natural reactions to things like this. I started the thread because I really thought there must be some reason behind the actions taken, not to bash the players.
I hope what I wrote wasn't misconstrued as bashing anyone. That was not my intent. I was merely stating that from what I've read, they don't seem to skirmish as often as some of us nutso's and make some strange decisions. | | | |
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Rav950
Warrior
340 Posts
| | 02/07/2006 5:03 PM |
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Originally posted by Gristlemane
1) Why would you keep Guenhwyvar (who has pounce) out a charging lane and leave the Draegloth, Duergar Champ, Troglodyte, etc. open to being charged?
Looks like a manuvering error. Your assessment is correct.
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2) Why in the world would you charge the Gith Monk with the Draegloth instead of going after the Half-Orc Paladin? Isn't the whole point of picking the Tomb of Queen Peregrin in that situation the fact that the Half-Orc doesn't have anywhere to hide?
The Gith Monk was incorrectly perceived as a greater threat. Once the unavoidable strike was expended on Guen, the Draegloth should have chosen the Half Orc Paladin as the target to potentially eliminate the golem (total 109 points).
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3) Why would you base the Gith Monk with Lolth's Sting? Is it really worth the risk to try to put the monk to sleep?
Reasonable attack bonuses for fodder (though sorely underpowered vs a Gith Monk), reasonable AC vs a +9 attack, and conceal 6. I would consider it an acceptable move, though not optimal.
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4) Why would you bother attacking the giant and not the Half-orc paladin? There's no way you're getting through the giant's hp with a gold dwarf and a duergar champ with healing right next to the thing.
Basing the giant with one of the pieces could help limit its ability to manuver to aid other pieces. You might not kill it, but you could slow it down. Depending on the state of the battlefield, I wouldn't consider this a bad manuver either.
Your analysis of the situation is fairly accurate. I am also suspecting that the 57 points spent on Guenhwyvar and Troglodyte Barbarian would have been better spent on other pieces. | |
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