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ChristopherGroves
Warlord
6093 Posts
    
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| Alright! Votes are in for round three! Round four (finals!) voting underway!
HidesFromHurricanes v Felagund
Bracket
<br>Game 1 HidesFromHurricanes<br> (bye)<br> HidesFromHurricanes (75%)<br> NewtonCain (25%)<br>Game 2 Newtoncain<br> (bye)<br> HidesFromHurricanes (53%)<br> Juice (47%)<br>Game 3 SlantyEyedWeasel<br> (bye)<br> SlantyEyedWeasel (38%)<br> juice (63%)<br>Game 4 OrcMonk220 (21%)<br> juice (79%)<br><br> __________________<br>Game 5 turboman (49%)<br> elder_basilisk (51%)<br> elder_basilisk (44%)<br> spickedchaindave (56%)<br>Game 6 compasmasternecro (41%)<br> spickedchaindave (59%)<br> spickedchaindave (10%)<br> felagund (90%)<br>Game 7 okay_mckay (21%)<br> one_wing (79%)<br> one_wing (38%)<br> felagund (63%)<br>Game 8 vash9284<br> felagund<br>
Round Three Summary
Game 1: HidesFromHurricanes v Juice
- HidesFromHurricanes wins!
- Apparrently the community thought that in this match-o-mirrors the Dark Traveller would be more benefit than the Valenar Commander
Game 2: spickedchaindave v felagund
- Felagund Wins!
- The Ghaele proved to be too mighty for the CG barbs
Round Four! Water Bracket Finals!
Here are the bands!
HidesFromHurricanes
Dark Traveller
Xen'drik Champion x6
Halfling Wizard
Dark Traveller gives melee reach to the XCs so they may not be taking the AoO to get their damage bonus. XCs also double as missile support. Hafling wizard stays out of the way.
Update on strategy: The Dark Traveller is there to provide melee reach and at the opportune moment smite (total 25 magic). He can keep up with XCs with swift burst if needed. If there is a big elemental damage component in the opponents, he can get resist 10, but probably save the PPs for burst and Exhalation of Black dragon. XCs will be tag teaming on opponents to keep up there skirmish +10 damage, the trick being to kill things before you have to activate a based XC. The Halfling Wizard can autodamage with MM and 2 Scorching rays where needed. May do the mage armor on a early round. General strategy is to snipe early and often, avoid the hulks like the Clay Golem, prefering to move and take shots on the support pieces. Tile points will be taken by whoever is available, I see it rotating, eventually falling to the Halfling Wiz.
Map of choice Mushroom Chamber (better for one commander archery band) but expect to play on the other players map with commander 2.
felagund
Ghaele Eladrin 124
Xen'drik Champion x2 46
Half-ogre Barbarian 25
Catfolk 5
Map: Hellspike
It's all about the Ghaele. Improved Initiative, Blindsight, Fear Gaze, F12. These should compensate for her low HP:cost ratio when she's not competing against the tier 1 figures. Not to mention the CE could very well come in handy. | |
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ShadowLord XT
Commander
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Plane of Shadow
| | 02/16/2006 5:45 PM |
| Water Bracket
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Underboss
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taliesin
Underboss
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| | 02/16/2006 6:39 PM |
| | Felagund (and I sooo hoped a hexen'drik band would win one of the four brackets) | |
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HidesFromHurricanes
Warrior
289 Posts
| | 02/16/2006 6:48 PM |
| No Vote.
Assuming the Hellspike, the saving grace is while behind/in the smoke everyone is immune to Ghaele's gaze. But we suffer the hail of arrows. So its a matter of how many XCs are left when taking on the Ghaele. I think it would be close. | |
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robbdaman
Underboss
2380 Posts
| | 02/16/2006 7:31 PM |
| Unfortunately you can't change your map during a tournament HFH. I'll go with felagund - Ghaele but I do think it'd be a close game. One bad roll from Ghaele or a couple good ones from a Xendrik and the game would be over.
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IanB
Commander
3112 Posts
| | 02/16/2006 7:48 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by robbdaman
Unfortunately you can't change your map during a tournament HFH. I'll go with felagund - Ghaele but I do think it'd be a close game. One bad roll from Ghaele or a couple good ones from a Xendrik and the game would be over.
R~
He's probably assuming Hellspike because that's the ghaele map of choice, and the ghaele has a much better chance to win map initiative here. | |
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ChristopherGroves
Warlord
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Underboss
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Wadsworth, OH
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Mortusbard
Sergeant
427 Posts
North Carolina
| | 02/16/2006 9:45 PM |
| I think the gheale will probaly have the advantage. But she could suffer from the death of a thousand cuts. That being said.
I still have to go with the Ghaele.
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AesophDarkfable
Warlord
5628 Posts
| | 02/16/2006 9:54 PM |
| | Hidesfrom Hurricanes. They are fast enough to pursue the Ghaele and stay on her. | |
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Warlord
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robbdaman
Underboss
2380 Posts
| | 02/17/2006 1:08 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by ChristopherGroves
That's the way I read it. Felagund's map is the Hellspike ... and he'll likley win terrain init.
Duh! Me am smart! Yeah I may just change my vote a couple times through the weekend.
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psistef
Underboss
1572 Posts
| | 02/17/2006 2:44 AM |
| HidesfromHurricanes.
Eventually, I think the Xendrick net would close around the Ghale.
With them all shooting at her each round, with at least a few getting off those skirmish attacks, she'd eventually have to go down.
Would be an awesome game to watch though. | |
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Low Key
Underboss
1231 Posts
| | 02/17/2006 3:20 AM |
| Go Ghaele! I didnt win my Xen'drik match, but I hope this one will. Not to mention the high iniative, Gaze attack and arrows will eradicate Xen'drks fast. as long as the Ghaele survives, 'tis all good.
Felagund wins. | |
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Janos M.
Underboss
1015 Posts
Hamburg / GErmany
| | 02/17/2006 3:22 AM |
| | I think HidefromHuricanes will make it. | |
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juice
Warrior
175 Posts
| | 02/17/2006 4:00 AM |
| HidesFromHurricanes
Must support these 6 Xen'driks, even though they overcame my 7 Xen'driks in the previous round! [:D] | |
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Newtoncain
Commander
2985 Posts
Land of 10,000 taxes
| | 02/17/2006 5:37 AM |
| felagund
to make it to next level. Bring home the gold for the water bracket. | |
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Gloom_
Sergeant
583 Posts
| | 02/17/2006 7:05 AM |
| | Felagund I think. Ghaele is quite a lot for the Xendricks to handle. | |
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bshugg
Underboss
1832 Posts
| | 02/17/2006 7:46 AM |
| Ghaele will pull this one out. Even with all the minor damage from Xendrik's she can heal her self for 50 at any time. Her return fire will be massive on the Xendrik's and she can fire through the smoke while they can. She will use this to her advantage.
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HidesFromHurricanes
Warrior
289 Posts
| | 02/17/2006 7:56 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by HidesFromHurricanes
No Vote.
Assuming the Hellspike, the saving grace is while behind/in the smoke everyone is immune to Ghaele's gaze. But we suffer the hail of arrows. So its a matter of how many XCs are left when taking on the Ghaele. I think it would be close.
Other positives for the DT/XCs is activation control for most of the game. The smoke will also protect against the XC arrows from the Ghaele band. Round 1 sees my band camped in the the smoke in the middle of the board ready to pounce(halfling wiz has started his waddle to the nearest victory area). Round 2 sees serious skirmish action. I figure by end of round 3 we are down to DT (w/o smite) and 2-3XCs vs the Ghaele. The Halfling Wiz may be parking his butt on a victory area, assuming he dodge all the main action/no stray XC arrows. | |
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Sergeant
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XenoZephyr
Underboss
1083 Posts
| | 02/17/2006 8:17 AM |
| | 1: HidesFromHurricanes, I think that many Xen'driks can track down the Ghaele. | |
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rhane
Underboss
1412 Posts
| | 02/17/2006 8:51 AM |
| I've never been a huge Gheale fan, but this is a very nice matchup for Jake. If her 2 XC's and HOB can tie up 3 of the baddies, she can easily shred the other 3.
So my vote goes for Felagund. | |
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 02/17/2006 8:55 AM |
| | Definitely Felagund. | |
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zephyrstorm
Sergeant
528 Posts
| | 02/17/2006 10:18 AM |
| HidesFromHurricanes.
The Ghaele will drop too fast from the xendrik's hitting her in melee, since they'll still get their skirmish bonus on their opening melee attack. After she goes down, Hurricanes will have the leg up on having more champs left then. | |
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Felagund
Sergeant
922 Posts
| | 02/17/2006 12:07 PM |
| Assuming we play on Hellspike, here's how I see it happening. Xen'driks will take a round of arrows from the Ghaele. Then they can move in to attack, but they'll have to go through my Xen'driks and Half-Ogre first. By the time those are out of the way, I expect 2-4 opposing champs to be dead. When it's just the Ghaele, I can make a melee attack against whatever's based me, then fly 12 spaces away. He can take aoo's for 5 damage (or 10 if he crits! [:)]) He can't get at me to make attacks in the same round, so he can either double move to base me and we repeat the cycle, or move part of the way, hoping for the initiative to go in his favor for the skirmish damage. Heal for 50 when I need it.
This match could go either way, but as I see it, HFH needs luck on his side for it to swing his way. With average rolling, I think I can take it. | |
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HidesFromHurricanes
Warrior
289 Posts
| | 02/17/2006 12:25 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Felagund
Assuming we play on Hellspike, here's how I see it happening. Xen'driks will take a round of arrows from the Ghaele. Then they can move in to attack, but they'll have to go through my Xen'driks and Half-Ogre first. By the time those are out of the way, I expect 2-4 opposing champs to be dead. When it's just the Ghaele, I can make a melee attack against whatever's based me, then fly 12 spaces away. He can take aoo's for 5 damage (or 10 if he crits! [:)]) He can't get at me to make attacks in the same round, so he can either double move to base me and we repeat the cycle, or move part of the way, hoping for the initiative to go in his favor for the skirmish damage. Heal for 50 when I need it.
This match could go either way, but as I see it, HFH needs luck on his side for it to swing his way. With average rolling, I think I can take it.
Phew, I thought you might drag me on to the Mushroom Cavern and have the XCs running across the spiked stones to catch you. A spread of DT and XC should make the end game an interesting cat and mouse game (I fear I am commanding the mice). | |
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ickthegreat
Warrior
291 Posts
| | 02/17/2006 12:28 PM |
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Prince o the Raven Banner
Sergeant
606 Posts
| | 02/17/2006 2:01 PM |
| | Hides from Hurricanes, the XC's Can bring a Ghaele down but it's Work. This one will be close and ugly. | |
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Ack
Underboss
1476 Posts
| | 02/17/2006 2:08 PM |
| HidesFromHurricanes
Why? cause even with all the tools Ghaele has - she only has 65 hit points and 6 attackers can get enough hits in to kill her.. | |
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 02/17/2006 4:24 PM |
| | Tought call but I think felagund gets the win. | | | |
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Aesnath
Underboss
1358 Posts
Augusta, GA
| | 02/17/2006 5:08 PM |
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I vote felagund!!!!
Overall, I think it'll be tricky for the Xendricks to consistantly avoid the gaze attack. And his commander shouldn't last too long. | |
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bshugg
Underboss
1832 Posts
| | 02/18/2006 9:21 PM |
| | Felagund should pull this one off. DR on Ghaele will force a melee battle as the hexadrik's band will get torn apart at ranged. Since he has the advantage, he can get proper positioning to really force the Xendrik's to engage at a bad position. | |
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Compasmasternecro
Skirmisher
22 Posts
| | 02/18/2006 9:41 PM |
| felagund
Ghaele has such the advantage with teh smoke its hard to really consider any ranged type band from effecting her and her speed makes even the xendrick look like they are standing still | |
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tree druid
Sergeant
414 Posts
| | 02/18/2006 9:52 PM |
| Felagund
The Ghaele can be deadly and with the support of the HOB and Xen'Drik, it should be able to knock out the low hp of the Xen'Drik. | |
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TruNutral88
Sergeant
522 Posts
| | 02/18/2006 10:04 PM |
| HidesFromHurricanes.
Xendrik's will eat here in melee. I mean, all those AoOs of 5 m can really add up :) | |
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synecdoche
Warrior
252 Posts
| | 02/19/2006 1:18 PM |
| | Felagund. He has enough screeners to keep the GE clear for the crucial first couple of rounds. After that, the GE speed and archery wears down the hex. | |
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TroglodyteWizard89
Warrior
346 Posts
USA
| | 02/19/2006 2:25 PM |
| HidesFromHurricanes
Go Xendricks! All those shots should take out the GE eventually, and if someone is grabbing tiles, the game should be over as soon as she falls(which could take a long time...) | |
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zenthrus
Warlord
5082 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 02/19/2006 6:34 PM |
| | Felagund but it'd be very close. | |
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