lynchpt
Sergeant
926 Posts
    
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| There was never much doubt about it, but in case anyone was wondering, Ian has confirmed that there will be rank-based invitations to the DDM Championships.
That is, just like last year, the top 25 DCI rated players who have not Qualified through the normal tournaments will be invited anyway.
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 04/10/2006 3:23 PM |
| Hrm. I have heard of some rumblings that some players who are likely to go based on DCI-ranking are thinking of sitting out of the qualifiers this year in order to encourage their own communities. I wonder how prevelant this trend will be.
I know I am not going to do it though, as I want both the free flight, and the fun that is involved in competing in a qualifier (or two.) However, I will happily judge my local qualifier if I end up winning the Buford, Georgia Qualifier. | |
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Warlord
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The Fortress of Solitude
| | 04/10/2006 3:28 PM |
| | Must be nice, Jesse. Must be nice. | |
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 04/10/2006 3:37 PM |
| | To be invited based on rank or be going to two qualifiers or to have a reasonable expectation to win a Qualifier? | |
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robbdaman
Underboss
2380 Posts
| | 04/10/2006 3:40 PM |
| Man, so all I need to do is start a gaming shop and have tournaments several times a week and falsify the reports and I can get invited too. Yeah, that seems reasonable. [}:)]
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kgradert13
Sergeant
909 Posts
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If I can keep up the current pace of 8-18 pts a week, I may not have to go to the qualifier. I'd feel pretty confident at about 32-35, but if I didn't make it, no worries. | |
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 04/10/2006 3:46 PM |
| | Qualifiers are fun! Everyone should go to one (if time and schedule permit.) | |
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Kiddoc
Underboss
1797 Posts
| | 04/10/2006 3:58 PM |
| I'll be sitting out of any qualifiers because they're too dang far away! Of course, I'm going to one that's 1,400 miles away...
It's a good thought Jesse. While I want to encourage competition, I wouldn't likely compete anyhow since I'm already aboard the gravy-train to Gencon. No need to take up that spot when I've already got it and the accommodations. I'd much rather see someone that's never been to Gencon (like me 2 years ago) get addicted by witnessing its awesomeness the first time around.
That said, I fully expect most of the best players will be trying to qualify though. It's free swag and airfare if nothing else.
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PatEllis15
Commander
4463 Posts
| | 04/10/2006 4:05 PM |
| I'm glad to hear it... I "think" it means that I have a better shot at Milford now... My record against Mr. Lynch isn't what it used to be!
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PatEllis15
Commander
4463 Posts
| | 04/10/2006 4:21 PM |
| Pat: Where did Ian post the info?
I had asked the question over in teh Q&A thread in general, and figured he'd posted a response, but I don't see one, nor over on the WotC boards...
And to confirm, the top 25 Globally, correct?
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Felagund
Sergeant
922 Posts
| | 04/10/2006 4:28 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by doubtofbuddha
Hrm. I have heard of some rumblings that some players who are likely to go based on DCI-ranking are thinking of sitting out of the qualifiers this year in order to encourage their own communities. I wonder how prevelant this trend will be.
Not me, though I did consider it after finding out the prizes for 2-4 got seriously nerfed.
Definitely still going to the Colorado qualifier because I want to our numbers to be as high as possible. Plus, it's just so close, and Mark would be sad if I wasn't there. And I can't do that to him.
Still going to Utah because I think it will be fun. A good old fashioned road trip, with the chance to meet a whole new group of DDMer's.
I'll admit, it probably doesn't make financial sense for me to go to a qualifier (unless i win). But then again, it doesn't really make financial sense to spend hundreds of dollars a year on little plastic toys. So I might as well go all out! [:)] | |
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Newtoncain
Commander
2985 Posts
Land of 10,000 taxes
| | 04/10/2006 4:40 PM |
| IIRC last year it was the top 25 in the world (constructed) that had not already qualied at a qualifier.
I made it w/ a 1792 ranking in the 30s. No were near that his year, so off to the qualifier I go. And maybe the "Grinder" if need be. | |
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ktatroe
Sergeant
571 Posts
| | 04/10/2006 4:45 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Felagund
Still going to Utah because I think it will be fun. A good old fashioned road trip, with the chance to meet a whole new group of DDMer's.
I'm glad you've come around since Friday! I was going to use the "does it really make sense to spend so much on silly little plastic toys?" argument on you this coming tournament, too. [:)]
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Gunthar
Commander
2938 Posts
| | 04/10/2006 5:14 PM |
| | Qualifiers are just so much fun. Never been to Gen Con, likely still won't this year as it hits at a "bad" time for me to go, but I love the game and the qualifier is big and you get to meet people from other cities. | |
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Ghendar
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12319 Posts
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| | 04/10/2006 6:08 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by doubtofbuddha
Hrm. I have heard of some rumblings that some players who are likely to go based on DCI-ranking are thinking of sitting out of the qualifiers this year in order to encourage their own communities. I wonder how prevelant this trend will be.
Perhaps some of you have an answer to my question.
If you're ranked in the top 25, thus already getting an invite to the championship, AND you qualify via a qualifier tourny, did you just bump someone else from getting that opportunity?
Because, if that's true and with all due respect, I think that stinks. Yes, yes, I know life is not fair, blah, blah, blah. Still not right. | |
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Felagund
Sergeant
922 Posts
| | 04/10/2006 6:15 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Ghendar
Perhaps some of you have an answer to my question.
If you're ranked in the top 25, thus already getting an invite to the championship, AND you qualify via a qualifier tourny, did you just bump someone else from getting that opportunity?
Because, if that's true and with all due respect, I think that stinks. Yes, yes, I know life is not fair, blah, blah, blah. Still not right.
No, not really. You've bumped someone in the tournament from qualifying, but you will be skipped over when the top 25 DCI scores are taken. | |
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lynchpt
Sergeant
926 Posts
| | 04/10/2006 6:58 PM |
| quote:
Perhaps some of you have an answer to my question.
If you're ranked in the top 25, thus already getting an invite to the championship, AND you qualify via a qualifier tourny, did you just bump someone else from getting that opportunity?
Because, if that's true and with all due respect, I think that stinks. Yes, yes, I know life is not fair, blah, blah, blah. Still not right.
Felagund has right, and here is another way to think of it. There will be at least 105 invitations to GenCon, assuming no qualifiers get cancelled. 80 invitations will come from the high placers at qualifiers, and 25 will come from rank. (Wizards will also invite a few extra people like European Open top players, past chamsp etc).
If someone could qualify on rank, but gets a Qualifier slot, the same number of people will get invites, but the exact people may change. Heck, one could make the case that someone with a high rank who does not try to qualify is unfairly costing someone who does not live near any qualifiers a chance to get an invite based on rank. (That's not how I see it, though).
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lalato
Underboss
1546 Posts
Urbana, IL
| | 04/10/2006 7:14 PM |
| actually, there will be 84 invites from qualifiers... ;)
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Thenameless
Warlord
11412 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 04/10/2006 7:18 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by doubtofbuddha
To be invited based on rank or be going to two qualifiers or to have a reasonable expectation to win a Qualifier?
All of the above, but especially the part about being ranked high enough to get in. It lets you do stuff like experiment with different ideas, and sometimes it's nice to not have to play in a win or die situation. | |
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| | 04/10/2006 11:36 PM |
| | I'll be going to two, and I'm gonna try my durndest to win both. Less players at the championships if I double qualify [:)] | |
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 04/10/2006 11:45 PM |
| | You can't win more than one qualifier. | |
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PatEllis15
Commander
4463 Posts
| | 04/11/2006 7:21 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by doubtofbuddha
You can't win more than one qualifier.
But you can qualify at two without winning...
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Dapuma
Sneak
99 Posts
| | 04/11/2006 10:06 AM |
| | how do you check your ranking to see where you are ranked at? | |
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 04/11/2006 10:36 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by PatEllis15
quote:
Originally posted by doubtofbuddha
You can't win more than one qualifier.
But you can qualify at two without winning...
Pat E
Yup. And if I get anything but first place at my first qualifier, I will be going to a second. | |
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PatEllis15
Commander
4463 Posts
| | 04/11/2006 10:38 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Dapuma
how do you check your ranking to see where you are ranked at?
Go to www.theDCI.com
You can check on rankings for all the games that the DCI oversee's. If you've set your account up, you can log in from that screen and get a detailed breakdown of your record and rank in all the DDM formats.
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lalato
Underboss
1546 Posts
Urbana, IL
| | 04/11/2006 10:46 AM |
| My DCI rating is low that I can't even hope for Top 500 invitation... If I can somehow sneak an invite from one of the two qualifiers I'm attending, I'll consider myself lucky.
Is it time yet to revive the Contender, Pretender, Dead Ender thread from last year? [)]
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 04/11/2006 10:54 AM |
| I'm definitely a Pretender. [:P]
I have been thinking about starting a thread about which qualifiers are going to be the most difficult... | |
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Newtoncain
Commander
2985 Posts
Land of 10,000 taxes
| | 04/11/2006 11:10 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by doubtofbuddha
I'm definitely a Pretender. [:P]
I have been thinking about starting a thread about which qualifiers are going to be the most difficult...
TOugh
Cali of course.
Niles
Kenhucky
MN maybe?
NE
easy quals;
TX
AZ (unless the SoCal crew shows up)
ID
WY
CO? | |
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PatEllis15
Commander
4463 Posts
| | 04/11/2006 11:21 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by lalato
actually, there will be 84 invites from qualifiers... ;)
--sam
There currently 21 scheduled in North America, and 1 in Europe.
So, 88 Invites via Qualifiers
1 for the previous Champ
Top 25 to have not otherwise qualified
The question is will there be any other passes (I'm thinking specifically of Other Champions, i.e. the Limited 05 Champ, the Constructed 04 Champ, etc.)
Looks like 114 possible invites. With a ranking of 140 or so, I too will have to actualy qualify...
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lynchpt
Sergeant
926 Posts
| | 04/11/2006 11:25 AM |
| Having played there, and having some of their people play down here, I'll chip in that the Montreal Qualifer will be difficult to win/place. Even prescinding from the quality of their players, the sheer number of participants will ensure a long road. There were 55+ people there last year!
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sienar
Sergeant
640 Posts
| | 04/11/2006 11:36 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Newtoncain
quote:
Originally posted by doubtofbuddha
I'm definitely a Pretender. [:P]
I have been thinking about starting a thread about which qualifiers are going to be the most difficult...
TOugh
Cali of course.
Niles
Kenhucky
MN maybe?
NE
easy quals;
TX
AZ (unless the SoCal crew shows up)
ID
WY
CO?
Colorado, easy, eh? You really think so?
Wyoming will be the hardest to qualify in, I would think. Since there isn't one there. [)]
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Felagund
Sergeant
922 Posts
| | 04/11/2006 11:40 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Newtoncain
easy quals;
TX
AZ (unless the SoCal crew shows up)
ID
WY
CO?
Wyoming doesn't have a qualifier. And anyone showing up to CO looking for an easy win is going to be very disappointed, I guarantee. | |
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Ack
Underboss
1476 Posts
| | 04/11/2006 3:06 PM |
| quote:
1 for the previous Champ
1 or 2 for the previous champ(s)??
Cause its sounding an awful lot like Kiddoc is known to be competing.
Im still offering my services to Judge any qualifiers Im going to. | |
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PatEllis15
Commander
4463 Posts
| | 04/11/2006 3:12 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Ack
quote:
1 for the previous Champ
1 or 2 for the previous champ(s)??
Cause its sounding an awful lot like Kiddoc is known to be competing.
Im still offering my services to Judge any qualifiers Im going to.
Like i said in my post no way to know... WotC could take the easy way out, Kiddoc is unlikely to tumble out of the Top 25, so he'd end up with an invite anyway.
I'd rather see them invite previous champs every year. I don't see anything wrong with a bigger pool of top notch players.
And of course, it increases the miniscule odds that I get in as top 25 if everything were to play out perfectly...
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robbdaman
Underboss
2380 Posts
| | 04/11/2006 3:13 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Newtoncain
easy quals;
TX
AZ (unless the SoCal crew shows up)
ID
WY
CO?
Thanks for the offensive shot. As I stated before AZ has enough good players that it's not going to be an easy win. Assuming (root word ASSUME) we don't have good players because there's not a lot of DCI events is making an ass of you and me.
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 04/11/2006 3:20 PM |
| So maybe this particular topic wasn't a good idea to bring up. [:p]
Robb, do you think the turn out for the Arizona Qualifier will be bigger than it was last year? | |
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kgradert13
Sergeant
909 Posts
| | 04/11/2006 3:33 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by robbdaman
quote:
Originally posted by Newtoncain
easy quals;
TX
AZ (unless the SoCal crew shows up)
ID
WY
CO?
Thanks for the offensive shot. As I stated before AZ has enough good players that it's not going to be an easy win. Assuming (root word ASSUME) we don't have good players because there's not a lot of DCI events is making an ass of you and me.
R~
With only 8 registered players for constructed events in the entire state, I can see how someone would extrapolate from that information that there isn't a whole lot of tournament experience in AZ. Now whether that information is valid of course, is entirely up for debate. | |
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lalato
Underboss
1546 Posts
Urbana, IL
| | 04/11/2006 3:39 PM |
| Pat, I stand corrected, but I didn't include the European Championship because it's not part of the "official" Qualifier schedule. ;)
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sienar
Sergeant
640 Posts
| | 04/11/2006 3:51 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by doubtofbuddha
So maybe this particular topic wasn't a good idea to bring up. [:p]
Robb, do you think the turn out for the Arizona Qualifier will be bigger than it was last year?
It's a rather interesting topic. I'm now kind of curious why people seem to think we're soft out here (this is not meant to be an inflammatory question - really is curiosity). Of course, this is all relative. 'Easiest to qualify' does not necessarily mean 'Easy to qualify'.
I could see UT being rather a tough one if they (the locals) show up in force and both CO and CA (among others) invade (as we are still planning to do).
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As to the original topic, I am in a position to qualify by ranking. I'd rather qualify though trial of fire, though. I look at the ranking qualification as a back-up plan. You place top 4, you're in. You don't, and you really can't afford to experiment or tank at your normal tournaments. And I'd gladly take a free plane ticket and pass to Gen Con over not getting a free plane ticket and pass to Gen Con. [:D] | |
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