Bert the Troll
Commander
3964 Posts
    
Adelaide
 | | 06/05/2006 12:33 AM |
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Originally posted by Fry
Meepo will singlehandedly revolutionize competitive play. I'm calling it now.
I'm scared you will be right. Darn scarwny LG kobold will no doubt kick godslayer butt.
The smalldragons will see use imo, but not game changers.
Tordek... meh... so many dwalves have looked badass in previews and we still dont see them. So dont see it being like the wardrummer.
All the spawn will be tough I think.
Top picks for the big mover and shakers pile:
- Talon of tiamat
- War Weaver
- Half blood sorcerer scratch that... I`'ll pick dragonborn as my third vote.
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Bert the Troll
Commander
3964 Posts
Adelaide
| | 06/05/2006 12:39 AM |
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Originally posted by Bluedevyl
quote:
Originally posted by iluvxtina
What I really hope is the huge creatures will not be so useless than the giants of legends... I hope the new huges will be awesome powerful and unbeatable and worth for their huge cost...But I doubt It.
I do have to say if the new Huges don't have Save = 10 I'm going to be pretty cheesed off.
I posed this question on WoTC boards, and I agree with what seemed to be concenus... that they wont have save=10. Or some of the more recent epics would of is main reasoning, and the hate peopel have for that being spelled out on card too.
I realy doubt save=10 will be on any future huge. | |
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psistef
Underboss
1572 Posts
| | 06/05/2006 1:13 AM |
| I really want to start seeing those stats [:)]
I have hopes for the Griffon. Perfect CG flavor for a cheap beater - now if only the card backs that up.
That Goliath's weapon is huge! Good potential there, but I'm sure they'll continue the 'All CG's awesome figs are commanders' routine.
Le is getting some shiny new toys .. too many to mention. Looks fun.
Few figs in there that have potential to be a mainstay LG beater, but I'm really shooting in the dark at the moment. | |
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Pegasus Knight
Sergeant
896 Posts
| | 06/05/2006 1:54 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by psistef
I really want to start seeing those stats [:)]
I have hopes for the Griffon. Perfect CG flavor for a cheap beater - now if only the card backs that up.
That Goliath's weapon is huge! Good potential there, but I'm sure they'll continue the 'All CG's awesome figs are commanders' routine.
To respond to these points:
I, too, hope the Griffon does well. Even as I lament the fact it doesn't have the aesthetic form I want (I wanted it to be a Pegasus, and weep nightly that it isn't!), it hopefully will have everything else I desired. If anything is going to help CG, the Griffon Cavalry or the Spellscale Sorcerer'll probably be the one. That, or the Tavern Brawler is going to be so t-t-t-t-t-totally awesomely rad 2 da MaXxX that it has 'Magical Rapping Skateboard' as an ability that totally redefines Skirmish play.
As far as the "CG's best pieces are Commanders" bit, I'll drink to that. I really wish the Brass Samurai had been a standard Follower, it would've been great. As it is, it's frustrating to try and choose between Ryld, the Greenfang Druid, and Brass Samurai in this field. | |
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Aravis
Underboss
1155 Posts
| | 06/05/2006 2:20 AM |
| | Yea..CG needs a Samurai beater that isnt a commander for gods sake! Copper and Brass are both commanders :(. Speaking of Dragon Samurais I want a Silver Samurai..that would be really cool looking.. | |
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Sammael
Underboss
1881 Posts
| | 06/05/2006 4:01 AM |
| | I have high hopes for LGD and look forward to including him in a warband (200 pts). Other than that, I don't really see Tordek as being that good. Griffon Cavalry will probably be a nice option for CG, and the Ogre Skirmisher looks interesting for CE. | |
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Kissmykiester
Sergeant
526 Posts
| | 06/05/2006 5:17 AM |
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Originally posted by Bert the Troll
Tordek... meh... so many dwalves have looked badass in previews and we still dont see them. So dont see it being like the wardrummer.
Trust me on this...Tordak is gonna see a lot of play. Above Average AC, HP and level. High pluses to hits and damage, throw in Drizzit and POW!!! All that and he is under 60pts.
P.S. when are stats usually leaked? A week from WOTDQ release? Two weeks? Now? | |
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Sirohk
Commander
3938 Posts
USA
| | 06/05/2006 7:31 AM |
| I'll add my thoughts:
1) Large Green Dragon
2) Magma Hurler
3) Small Black Dragon
Anyone have any info on the DOOM FIST MONK?
[}:)]
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greyhaze
Warlord
7737 Posts
| | 06/05/2006 9:59 AM |
| | I'm a little surprised that no one has mentioned the Yuan-ti Sorceress. It could be the new and improved (or rather fixed) Drider. | |
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Benimoto
Underboss
1125 Posts
| | 06/05/2006 10:14 AM |
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Originally posted by Sirohk
Anyone have any info on the DOOM FIST MONK?
[}:)]
Well there's RPG stats for a doom fist monk in RHoD. Looking at the web enhancement, it might look something like:
Doom Fist Monk
WoDQ; LE; Common; 14 pts
LVL 6; SPD 8; AC 19; HP 30
Melee Attack: +9 (10 + Constrict)
Type: Humanoid (Hobgoblin, Goblinoid)
Special Abilities:
- Constrict (Large or smaller creature skips next turn; DC 13)
- Evade Damage
- Stunning Attack [][][] (DC 14)
Not all that exciting to me, and they may not even get all those abilites. | |
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jooquase
Warrior
272 Posts
| | 06/05/2006 2:46 PM |
| | If Meepo has warband building for kobolds, I think that he will be a great asset, (lots of flying Kobolds with realy hi AC + conceal = good point denial) | |
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Eliminator53
Sergeant
628 Posts
| | 06/05/2006 3:22 PM |
| | I think the Bluespawn Godslayer will be pretty good. I also think that CE will now start using small fire elementals as tile grabbers. Speed 10 and fire shield makes them nightmares of kobold miners | |
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scifirules
Sergeant
354 Posts
| | 06/05/2006 3:28 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Benimoto
Doom Fist Monk
WoDQ; LE; Common; 14 pts
LVL 6; SPD 8; AC 19; HP 30
Melee Attack: +9 (10 + Constrict)
Type: Humanoid (Hobgoblin, Goblinoid)
Special Abilities:
- Constrict (Large or smaller creature skips next turn; DC 13)
- Evade Damage
- Stunning Attack [][][] (DC 14)
I'd pay 14 points for that, especially in LE.
Speaking of new LE units, I'm kind of curious about that Hobgoblin Talon of Tiamat. It looks pretty awesome, but I'm wondering what its stats will be like (maybe it's a commander?). | |
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AesophDarkfable
Warlord
5628 Posts
| | 06/05/2006 3:31 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by scifirules
quote:
Originally posted by Benimoto
Doom Fist Monk
WoDQ; LE; Common; 14 pts
LVL 6; SPD 8; AC 19; HP 30
Melee Attack: +9 (10 + Constrict)
Type: Humanoid (Hobgoblin, Goblinoid)
Special Abilities:
- Constrict (Large or smaller creature skips next turn; DC 13)
- Evade Damage
- Stunning Attack [][][] (DC 14)
I'd pay 14 points for that, especially in LE.
Speaking of new LE units, I'm kind of curious about that Hobgoblin Talon of Tiamat. It looks pretty awesome, but I'm wondering what its stats will be like (maybe it's a commander?).
Id say he is a lock for commander status. | |
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scifirules
Sergeant
354 Posts
| | 06/05/2006 4:00 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by AesophDarkfable
quote:
Originally posted by scifirules
Speaking of new LE units, I'm kind of curious about that Hobgoblin Talon of Tiamat. It looks pretty awesome, but I'm wondering what its stats will be like (maybe it's a commander?).
Id say he is a lock for commander status.
Then let's just hope he's a good commander! | |
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XenoZephyr
Underboss
1083 Posts
| | 06/05/2006 4:28 PM |
| I would hope that the new Blackguard would be a great figure but I just think it will cost too much. It might be costed good...but with all of the abilities I don't think there will be enough points for the rest of a good warband.
So, I'll go with
1)Large Green Dragon
2)Cadaver Collector
3)the small black dragon
(I love LE so it's more of a dream list plus I think the 2 small dragons will see play) | |
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Gunthar
Commander
2938 Posts
| | 06/05/2006 4:45 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Bert the Troll
quote:
Originally posted by Fry
Meepo will singlehandedly revolutionize competitive play. I'm calling it now.
I'm scared you will be right. Darn scarwny LG kobold will no doubt kick godslayer butt.
The smalldragons will see use imo, but not game changers.
Oooooo, or better yet, POSSESS opposing dragon ability, ala Lich Necromancer, now that dragons are being powered-up again. (insert semi-evil lauh here) | |
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Benimoto
Underboss
1125 Posts
| | 06/05/2006 7:58 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by scifirules
I'd pay 14 points for that, especially in LE.
Speaking of new LE units, I'm kind of curious about that Hobgoblin Talon of Tiamat. It looks pretty awesome, but I'm wondering what its stats will be like (maybe it's a commander?).
Really, I just made up the 14 points. You can pay 15 points for the Dark Moon Monk, who is fairly similar.
The Talon of Tiamat is a good candidate for the design team adding wacky abilities that don't have an exact analogue in the skirmish game. Red Hand of Doom does include one character with the Talon of Tiamat prestige class. If turned into a mini, he might look kinda like:
Hobgoblin Talon of Tiamat
Commander ???
WoDQ; LE; Rare; 60 pts
LVL 10; SPD 4; AC 22; HP 70
Melee Attack: +11/+6 (10 magic)
Type: Humanoid (Hobgoblin, Goblinoid)
Commander Effect:
- Who knows? Probably dragon-related, however.
Special Abilities:
- Breath Weapon [] (cone, 10 cold, DC 16)
- Breath Weapon [] (line, 20 acid, DC 16)
Sorcerer Spells:
2nd [][] - bull's strength, cure moderate wounds
3rd [][] - cure serious wounds, searing light
4th [][] - air walk (touch; target creature gains flight)
Who knows if it'll be that character or not. What we do know is that it will probably be a cleric (since it's wearing armor, and talon of tiamat has spellcasing progression) and that it will probably have breath weapons, since those are features of the class. | |
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jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
Walnut Creek, CA
| | 06/05/2006 8:17 PM |
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Originally posted by greyhaze
I'm a little surprised that no one has mentioned the Yuan-ti Sorceress. It could be the new and improved (or rather fixed) Drider.
Excuse me? Go back a page. [)] | |
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Bert the Troll
Commander
3964 Posts
Adelaide
| | 06/05/2006 8:58 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by greyhaze
I'm a little surprised that no one has mentioned the Yuan-ti Sorceress. It could be the new and improved (or rather fixed) Drider.
I did... | |
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MightyEinherjar
Sergeant
387 Posts
| | 06/05/2006 10:24 PM |
| | The hobgoblin will have almost the same stats as the hobgoblin it is modeled after in Chainmail. | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
7737 Posts
| | 06/05/2006 11:16 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Bert the Troll
quote:
Originally posted by greyhaze
I'm a little surprised that no one has mentioned the Yuan-ti Sorceress. It could be the new and improved (or rather fixed) Drider.
I did...
Oh what, now I'm expected to read EVERY post... [)]
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Zyla
Underboss
1201 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 3:46 AM |
| | I'm holding out that the Golden Protector will be a good alternative to the Marut in LG | |
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Janos M.
Underboss
1015 Posts
Hamburg / GErmany
| | 06/06/2006 3:54 AM |
| aahhmmm guys...
You think after giving the names and some hints from the previews you know what is the next skirmish bomb?
You must be gods
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Low Key
Underboss
1231 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 4:05 AM |
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Originally posted by Janos M.
aahhmmm guys...
You think after giving the names and some hints from the previews you know what is the next skirmish bomb?
You must be gods
Its another guessing game. Just like the Preview X was. Join in the fun. [)] | |
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orcmonk220
Underboss
1608 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 4:14 AM |
| Well, I'd really love the Bahamut's Chosen Fighter dude to be competative. He seems so cool.
I think we need to watch out for the Spellcasters in this set! | |
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scruffydude7
Underboss
1196 Posts
Rock Hill, SC
| | 06/06/2006 4:28 AM |
| I would like to see the following three figures become strong in skirmish.
1.Goliath Cleric of Kavaki
2.Storm Archer
3.Hobgoblin Talon of Tiamat
I also have a feeling that the Dragonborn Fighter, Large Green Dragon, Griffon Cavalry and Ogre Skirmisher will be strong skirmish figures.
I'd really like to see the Bonded Fire Summoner and Warden of the Wood become strong, but I have my doubts about those two. | |
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 7:29 AM |
| I am hoping for the Dragonborn Fighter to be the 30ish point competitive hitter that I've wanted for a long time...
I already expect Tordek will be competitive so I don't need to hope for him. [:p] | |
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Benimoto
Underboss
1125 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 10:09 AM |
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Originally posted by MightyEinherjar
The hobgoblin will have almost the same stats as the hobgoblin it is modeled after in Chainmail.
Maybe. I kind of hope it has more than 20 hp though.
Did I ever respond to the original question? My guesses for the best 3 skirmish figures:
1. Green Dragon
2. Aspect of Tiamat
3. Cadaver Collector | |
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stephengroy
Underboss
1440 Posts
Tempe AZ Beeyotch
| | 06/06/2006 12:30 PM |
| What good could come of a common piece like the Tavern Brawler?
What abilities could it have to prevent it from being like the Sage?
Let's see...he's flinging beer at someone -- not the mug, just the beer...maybe a Blind by Alcohol feat? Apply a lighter, and Set Fire to Stuff? Maybe the mug is a portal -- Bobby gets to Drink from the FireHose!
Meepo's Abilities? How about Annoy Uniques -- kinda like the old Kender's Taunt ability. Make them fumble, perhaps?
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Zoons
Underboss
1067 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 12:30 PM |
| | I'm hoping that Druid type dude will be a "fixed" summoner of woodland creatures. Just what CG needs, another way to break the 8 figure limit wide open. :) | |
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JohnnyFive
Warrior
207 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 12:57 PM |
| Alright, here we go ...
1) Griffon Cavalry
-I'm picking this one just because one day I was saying to my fiance "Hey, you know what would be a cool mini? An Aglarondan Griffonrider." Yup. It's nice when things just come together.
2) Storm Archer
-This one's pretty dicey, especially since part of his ranged damage is elemental. Nevertheless, this just might be that one archer that won't curl up and die once it gets based. If it's got two attacks in melee for just 10 damage each, I'll be happy.
3) Blackguard on Nightmare
-This might just be that Titan piece LE is looking for. A mobile, yet deadly, commander with Tyrannical Morale +6? Sign me up.
Honorable Mention: Wizened Elder
-You know, I was going to go with a different answer, right up until someone else in this thread pointed out that this creature is only a CR 2 in the Monster Manual, but is a rare. It might be one of those crappy rares we haven't seen the likes of since Aberrations, or ... | |
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scruffydude7
Underboss
1196 Posts
Rock Hill, SC
| | 06/06/2006 2:00 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by stephengroy
What good could come of a common piece like the Tavern Brawler?
What abilities could it have to prevent it from being like the Sage?
Let's see...he's flinging beer at someone -- not the mug, just the beer...maybe a Blind by Alcohol feat? Apply a lighter, and Set Fire to Stuff? Maybe the mug is a portal -- Bobby gets to Drink from the FireHose!
I would guess that he has the Goad feat, or something similar. This would allow him to force enemies who fail a save to attack him instead of anything else. It'd be something like the chaotic version of bodyguard. | |
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Nixlord
Underboss
2468 Posts
Quezon City, Philippines
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