Foxman
Sergeant
417 Posts
    
Calgary, AB, Canada
 | | 06/06/2006 12:45 PM |
| Just a quick poll.
What figure do you think is the best from Wardrums. It can be for stats, skirmish value, sculpt, RPG value, price value (awesome cause its worth so much or even awsome cause it costs so little) or for any reason, just choose that #1 out of 60 pieces. Whats your MVP (most valueable piece) and why (if you feel like explaining, or not as you wish).
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CSchroder
Sergeant
413 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 12:48 PM |
| | Well, Sacred Watchers may be the most bang for the buck figures in the set so my early vote is for them! I love using them and hate facing them! | |
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memphisto
Warrior
213 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 12:51 PM |
| | Wardrummer for me. Not quite broken, but close. | |
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 12:54 PM |
| | At least in the short term, I agree with Charles. Sacred Watcher. | |
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Pegasus Knight
Sergeant
896 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 12:55 PM |
| Ouch. Well, I think most people are going to say Sacred Watcher or Orc Wardrummer. I use neither all that often, since CG's my main team. My MVP choice would have to be Brass Samurai. Not quite as good as Ryld or the Greenfang Druid in most cases, but for a dollar, you get a good commander and beater. Considering Ryld and GFD are 10 dollar Rares, this isn't so bad.
Otherwise, I'd vote for Steelheart Archer. | |
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RobWreck
Warrior
295 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 1:01 PM |
| Orcish Wardrummer, absolutely. Imagine a LG piece that gave all members of LG Speed 8? That's effectively what the Wardrummer does for CE... a non-CFX that gives a +4 to one of CE's 2 greatest weaknesses... it's morale saves. Not exactly fearless, but a 20% greater chance of making those morale checks is REALLY big for a hard-hitting, high hp, fast faction. Morale checks were one of CE's weakspots, much like LG faces with it's speed 4.
There are other really good pieces in Wardrums, but the wardrummer is, IMO, the one that does the most for its faction. heck, that's why CE bands don't get 8 act/200 points but instead get 7 act, 181 points to build with... [)]
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Sharn Inquisitor
Underboss
1623 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 1:23 PM |
| | I'd have to say given the state of the metagame in LG and CE, the Sacred Watcher and Orc Wardrummer are a healthy tie for MVP. | | | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
6755 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 1:43 PM |
| Sacred Watcher is exceptional, Bodyguard brings in a needed new ability, Shuluth is cool with his cfx, Wardrummer is near broken with its abilities removing its factions weaknesses... but the MVP of wardrums of course is...
WARDUKE!
Cause who saw that comin!? [:D] | |
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kingnanu
Warrior
214 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 1:55 PM |
| | Just to be different I'm going to say the war troll. He's a monster insealed and I love his epic stats!! | |
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trollbill
Warrior
176 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 2:23 PM |
| | For me it's probably the Warforged Scout. | |
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ickthegreat
Warrior
291 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 2:34 PM |
| | The War Drummer. When I play CE I make room for him. | |
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Bluedevyl
Warrior
262 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 3:12 PM |
| | For me, I'm going to have to echo the call of Sacred Watcher... the OWD comes in a CLOSE second... the SW, as soon as we saw it, was an auto-include in nearly every LG band there is. | |
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Thespian
Sergeant
442 Posts
Lethbridge, Alberta
| | 06/06/2006 3:19 PM |
| My MVP mini from wardrums is the Chimera.
Awesome sculpt, very good stats that no one has been able to successfully build a teir 1 band around, but I think that it will only be a matter of time until someone does. Great for RPG as it is a large monster.... | |
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kgradert13
Sergeant
909 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 3:25 PM |
| Wardrummer
Sacred Watcher
Warforged Scout
In that order, but the differece between 1 and 2 is much less then the difference between 2 and 3. | |
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Gnolaum
Sergeant
854 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 3:28 PM |
| As an interesting oddity. If you check out my stores price guide (http://gamesters.hobby-site.com/price_guides.php) you will see that the Orc Wardrummer has the lowest resell value for a rare in that set.
Due to how my pricing system works: Floor(Store Average*Factor, .25), Both Orc Wardrummer and Sacred Watcher are tied for the cheapest resale value in their rarity for the set (http://gamesters.hobby-site.com/my_prices.php).
Odd.
For me the MVP would have to be Warforged Bodyguard, because that seems like the best addition to the Marut/Couatl duo. | |
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Eliminator53
Sergeant
628 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 3:36 PM |
| I would say in general the Orc Wardrummer. His save boosting/nerfing abilities make him an almost auto include in CE. Countersong and fearless are just icing on the orcish cake.
My personal MVP is Shuluth though. W/ the second most powerful commander effect in the game, he ranks as one of my faves for LE. Plus he's a mindflayer who can hit, whats not to love? | |
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Daezarkian
Sneak
110 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 3:49 PM |
| The War Troll has more than proven himself for me, but my personal MVP is the Inspired Lieutenant: she's a good Commander, she's mobile, she has excellent special abilities and she has the all-important ability to simulataneously heal herself/harm others. On top of all of that, she kind of looks like my wife... ;)
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 06/06/2006 3:55 PM |
| | I love a good Dwarf and he's done real well for me in Epic play so I'm going to have to go with the Aspect of Moradin. | | | |
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10429 Posts
United States
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scifirules
Sergeant
354 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 4:07 PM |
| | I'd say the MVP from Wardrums would be the Orc Wardrummer, with the Sacred Watcher not far behind. | |
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rhane
Underboss
1412 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 4:11 PM |
| | While the Sacred Watcher, Warforged Scout, and Bodyguard are all exceptional, none of them is the absolute slam dunk that the Wardrummer is - so he gets my MVP pick. | |
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Thenameless
Warlord
11587 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 06/06/2006 4:16 PM |
| | On looks, I like the Large Bronze Dragon, Orc Wardrummer, and Arcane Ballista. I like to play both chaotic factions, so the Wardrummer and Hill Giant Barbarian really work for me in skirmish. Nothing really in CG for skirmish. | |
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froffenhoffer
Sergeant
702 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 4:20 PM |
| | Night hag here, i like Le without horrors. | |
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Chad the DragonLordofAiur
Underboss
1085 Posts
Southeast PA
| | 06/06/2006 4:22 PM |
| 1. Sacred Watcher
2. Orc Wardrummer
3. Warforged Scout
4. Shuluth
5. Hill Giant Barbarian
Purely for skirmish - what else is there? | |
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warty_nosed_goblin
Underboss
1384 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 4:24 PM |
| | Warforged Barbarian here, he's a decent hitter, and bloody rage is a very cool ability, basically a touch magic missile that ignores SR...excellent for causing moral saves! He's also decently tough, and looks cool, very different from the other warforged (of which I'm also a fan...) | |
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HidesFromHurricanes
Warrior
289 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 4:26 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Vrecknidj
Steelheart Archer--love the sculpt.
Dave
I agree with Dave (not going as far as he's always right). Nice scupt, fits nicely in all sorts of CG bands, excellent team mate for Brass Sam/Nentyar/Valenar, good filler for other CG commanders. | |
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Foxman
Sergeant
417 Posts
Calgary, AB, Canada
| | 06/06/2006 6:17 PM |
| Heh - lots of good stuff here! The majorty of MVP's (for the OWD ;)) seems to focus on the skirmsh side of things, not that its that supprising heh.
For me? I would have to say the Hill Giant Barbarian. I could always use an uncommon giant/ogre mini for my tabletop games! and his skirmsh stats are not too bad either! Being an uncommon makes him relitivly easy to pick up. | |
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- J. A. Paulos "Innumeracy" | |
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Low Key
Underboss
1231 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 6:40 PM |
| | Shuluth, one more solid LE commander with a funky commander effect. It can proudly sit next to my Rakshasa in my LE-Rares box. [:D] | |
Champion of the Sarrukh | |
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TroglodyteWizard89
Warrior
346 Posts
USA
| | 06/06/2006 6:51 PM |
| Steelheart Archer for sculpt skirmish and RPG, but for skirmish and RPG the Hill Giant Barbarian is pretty close. I love that they are both uncommons as well.
Honorable mentions to the new LG figs! warforged scout, bodyguard, and sacred watcher! Much needed support for my second fave faction! | |
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ruhk69
Warrior
205 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 9:51 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by CSchroder
Well, Sacred Watchers may be the most bang for the buck figures in the set so my early vote is for them! I love using them and hate facing them!
I'd have to counter Charles with the Zakya Rakshasa....[:D] | |
The Waterboy. Proud member of Team Amish. | |
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XenoZephyr
Underboss
1083 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 10:08 PM |
| | I'd love to say the Zakya because I love LE but I'd have to vote for the Sacred Watchers, the only figures I couldn't beat. | |
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Bert the Troll
Commander
3964 Posts
Adelaide
| | 06/06/2006 10:38 PM |
| There's many I love in this set.
I really like Hill giant too - an uncommon nasty.
Rakshasa's are my fav foe to throw at pcs.
But, as where in skirk\mish section, I would go with the bodyguard.
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nasamonkey
Warrior
296 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 10:43 PM |
| It obvious:-
Orc Wardrummer (CE's auto Include)
Hill Giant Barbarian (Dual Titan Builds)
Sacred Watcher (Marut's Sidekick,annoying flanker) | |
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ruhk69
Warrior
205 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 11:07 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by XenoZephyr
I'd love to say the Zakya because I love LE but I'd have to vote for the Sacred Watchers, the only figures I couldn't beat.
Hah! Thanks Dan![B)] | |
The Waterboy. Proud member of Team Amish. | |
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XenoZephyr
Underboss
1083 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 11:13 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by ruhk69
quote:
Originally posted by XenoZephyr
I'd love to say the Zakya because I love LE but I'd have to vote for the Sacred Watchers, the only figures I couldn't beat.
Hah! Thanks Dan![B)]
Hahaha! Sorry, that wasn't suppose to be a slam against you! [)] | |
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ruhk69
Warrior
205 Posts
| | 06/06/2006 11:44 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by XenoZephyr
quote:
Originally posted by ruhk69
quote:
Originally posted by XenoZephyr
I'd love to say the Zakya because I love LE but I'd have to vote for the Sacred Watchers, the only figures I couldn't beat.
Hah! Thanks Dan![B)]
Hahaha! Sorry, that wasn't suppose to be a slam against you! [)]
I earned it after the little shot at Charles, I guess.... | |
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Teflon Jeff
Warlord
7617 Posts
Sector 2814
| | 06/07/2006 12:33 AM |
| I have to say the Hill Giant Barbarian. Finally, somethign in CE that hit's Hard!
Seriously though, I've been waiting for a good blocking piece in CE | |
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zenthrus
Warlord
5091 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 06/07/2006 1:19 AM |
| | Orc Wardrummer is the star of the show [:D] | |
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Helzapoppn
Warrior
258 Posts
| | 06/07/2006 2:12 AM |
| My MVPs by faction:
- LG - Sacred Watcher
- CG - Mephling Pyromancer (Fireballs and Fly? Giddyup!)
- LE - Zakya Rakshasa (there's a reason both Sirohk and I had two of 'em in our Pittsburgh warbands)
- CE - Orc Wardrummer
- Multifaction - Uh, let's see, there's the Gulgar and...the Gulgar...
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Gloom_
Sergeant
583 Posts
| | 06/07/2006 2:24 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Helzapoppn
My MVPs by faction:
- LG - Sacred Watcher
- CG - Mephling Pyromancer (Fireballs and Fly? Giddyup!)
- LE - Zakya Rakshasa (there's a reason both Sirohk and I had two of 'em in our Pittsburgh warbands)
- CE - Orc Wardrummer
- Multifaction - Uh, let's see, there's the Gulgar and...the Gulgar...
Yes, exactly what I was going to post. When I first saw the Zakya, I thought the level would be the Achilles heel, but that can be worked around. Watcher and Drummer need no explanation, and I don't play CG much, but saw the mephlings go down well in sealed events. | |
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