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Zyla Underboss
 1201 Posts




 | | 07/20/2006 9:59 PM |
| Golden Protector Arcane Balista Tordek, Dwarf Champion Couatl Timber Wolf x2
Or:
Golden Protector Couatl Tordek, Dwarf Champion Warweaver Sacred Watcher Aasimar Fighter Man-at-Arms | | | |
| RobWreck Warrior
 295 Posts




 | | 07/20/2006 10:13 PM |
| I'd go with the second one... getting Tordek to swing 3 times in a round sounds pretty nasty. Rob | | Champion of Aspect of Pelor
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| yugichat Skirmisher
 41 Posts




 | | 07/20/2006 10:28 PM |
| | Very interesting but can it hold up to the stun of monks | | | |
| MAURIZIO Sergeant
 960 Posts



 Lima, Perú
 | | 07/20/2006 11:05 PM |
| | i like the 2nd one, in the 1st one, the ballista need another piece to work and you need a blocker to stop foes to based the ballista | | Againts the Giants Called Shot: Cattie Bri. Dungeon of Dread Called Shot: Cockatrice. Todas las batallas en la vida sirven para enseñarnos algo, inclusive aquellas que perdemos. Paulo Coehlo "DnD teaches you a valuable lesson, always loot the bodies of your dead enemies"
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| Zyla Underboss
 1201 Posts




 | | 07/20/2006 11:22 PM |
| | For the second one, Gith monks are always problem, however the warwaever can help lessen the impact of monks with a well placed Dimension Hop, and you only need to do 30 before a gith monk does a moral save, which is why the golden protector is handy with its 25 fire damage cone if they are using a young master instead of a couatl. | | | |
| Gunthar Commander
 2938 Posts




 | | 07/21/2006 12:31 AM |
| | Neither. Tordek and the Golden Protector are neither fearless and they will run too often with Commander 0, especially since you'll also lose most critical initiatives. You also lack a tile grabber inj #2. | | Champion of Prit(Wemic vindication is here) Minneapolis/St. Paul area Completed trades: Aspect of Cheese (Love that moniker), Tickparasite, Elderthing, Lalato, Sodj, Grimoire, SmilinIrish, Zeb, RWarehall,Link, wikkawikkawa, Auramancer, Rommers, HK, Ivid5,Qillan_dvra, Puggins, Arcabius, Ironfist Boulderbender, Robby, Corim Danex, monster_slayer, DNDJUNKIE, Kelemvor, Krush, ckissee, Massawyrm, hockey fan, Wish, Uninspiring Lieutenant, vtloon x2, Vrecknidj, Darthpoke, WakeXX, AnarionZell, lycusmike, papabear5 and umpteen local trades with board members
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| Goldmoon Sergeant
 986 Posts




 | | 07/21/2006 2:15 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by Gunthar
Neither. Tordek and the Golden Protector are neither fearless and they will run too often with Commander 0, especially since you'll also lose most critical initiatives.
I second that. Losing your most effective beater to morale can be very bad. | | "HA! Activate take 10 and you cant hit me."
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| Thaine Sneak
 67 Posts




 | | 07/21/2006 4:25 AM |
| variation of your first build, zyla:
arcane ballista tordek couatl cleric of order filler.
the cleric gives a commander 5 with some good spells, and is a second peice to work the ballista. and as only an uncommon, it shouldn't be totally ungettable if you don't have one. | | | |
| E Thug of the Round Table Wolfgang Warlord
 6626 Posts



 Milton, Ontario Canada
 | | 07/21/2006 3:47 PM |
| | My bet is on number 2 | | Proud member since March 26 2005 Champion of the SIVAK DRACONIAN Completed trades: (94) Bad traders(2) DJchuckles, sardal Called shots:Sivak Draconian in DD Trade References Email Me | |
| Zyla Underboss
 1201 Posts




 | | 07/22/2006 1:51 AM |
| I improved it abit and came up with this:
Couatl Golden Protector Tordek Cleric of Yondalla Eberk Sacred Watcher Timberwolf x2
Adds an increase +1 ac and +1 saves to everything, and adds the cleric of yondalla to increase commander rating and moral saves as well as adding 2 tile grabbers | | | |
| Zyla Underboss
 1201 Posts




 | | 07/22/2006 1:39 PM |
| Also working on some high damage warbands using the golden protector, came up with these:
Couatl Marut Golden Protector Warweaver Timberwolf x2
200pts 6 activations
Granted its 6 activations, but the warweaver can give both the Marut and Couatl and a Timberwolf magic weapon, as well as giving both timberwolves +5 damage, and the Golden Protector really decimates CE and LE warbands with Holy Smite and Fire Breath.
Another variation is this:
Couatl Aspect of Kord Golden Protector Cleric of Yondalla Warforged Bodyguard Man-at-Arms x2
200pts 7 activations
Instead of the warweaver adds Kord with a Bodyguard and the cleric of yondalla to increase initiative and give magic weapon to the golden protecotr. | | | |
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