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Ryoga
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Colombia - Bogota / Italia
 | | 08/09/2006 12:04 AM |
| Submitted by: RyogaRippe (Tuesday, August 08, 2006) -
In Merric's Forum.
"VACANT POSITION FOR EPIC UNITS"
Many players of DDM have looked for alternative units for the epic games, mainly in the evil factions, but we have not even found great potential as if he exists mainly in good factions, specialy LG.
I am not saying that sceptional units for each one of the factions do not exist, single who even lack miniatures to increase the variety of the game in this field.
The idea of this article is to analyze epics units that are not used or that Players has in doubt, And PLZ that you contribute with yours comments to feedback our knowledge of these units:
NOTE:
-This article analyse evil factions, because good factions have many units to construct good epic warbands.
-Many of this analisis is taken to EPIC toolkit posted in maximinis by sienar, but not all the same text.
-In this article NOT excluded colosal or gargantuan units, because few people have the resources or disponibility to take it.
LAWFULL EVIL
Aspect of Tiamat
Has two drawbacks – speed 4 and only leaves 148 points for the other 7 activtions, which will be spent supporting her. Dual-activation goes a long way in countering both of those drawbacks, as does a plethora of breath weapons and a poison attack that cen be attached to any successful attack. The only element that can harm her is Sonic, and spell resistance gives protection against spells. Some people loss interest seing an unit with AC 23 and 250 for 352pts, but this unit is really powerfull!!! Thats true. The hard-point of Tiamat is their resistance since some of the frecuantes threats but appear this way, like Tordek. Can this unit resist the powerfull swings of mountain trolls and fomorians?.....
Blackguard on Nightmare
Tyrannical Morale 6 will really help the Arrogant figures, such as Eldritch Giant and Steel Predator and has the speed to keep up with your hitters, unlike the Human Blackguard. Both versions have the ability to pick off support figures, no matter where they are on the board. With a DC 20, the Weaken cone on the Epic Blackguard has a decent chance against most figures. Some can clean the dust of the steel predators so that great unit returns them very useful…. You can only observe the cones reducing the opponents at your feets without you grease yourself of blood. This epic unit lacks of real resistance capacity of hit-a-run tactics can be quick and mortal, and aditional defence of the Blink Out and Weakeness Cone.
Iron Golem
Non epic Iron Golem is Exelent units to Titans commanders but I prefer to talk about EPIC stats. The Epic Iron Golem has the advantage of not having Requires Commander, and with a very high AC and Reinforced instead of DR, is likely to stick around in a fight for a long time, BUT in the game exist an destructive special ability to use that anulate the Damage output of this epic mini, the DR 10. Wizards should to make an epic map that have large Sacred circles to compensate this unbalancing fact.
Lord Soth
Epic Lord Soth have destructive Abysal blast with 60 damage!, which is just devastating. Epic Lord Soth makes for one of the best melee titan commanders, but needs a little help protecting his relatively low hp total. This unit can be VERY usefull in Hellspike prision, Why?, the key blindsight this SA is a great danger if Soth chosse the suitable exit (Soth can send the Blast in first round)...... Wizards help very well Soth with this map.
Aspect of Nerull
For a long time this unit was one of more hoped, many people have the hope to have interesting and powerful effects, the problem was that single they fulfilled the “INTERESTING ones”. It is not possible to be said that the effects are FUNNY ..... but what happend with the Melee damage and the unlimited spell?. Imagine that the damage of hand-to-hand was 20 MAGIC or that he have keen critical or he still have the unlimited spell ......! thas was great...... What happend? I dont know. In other hand is very durable commander (Combined with Snig sounds good....killed goblin heal it 10) and In the new map "Black zones" (Dragon grotto) Aura of Fear 5 seems to work good. WHAT DO YOU THINK?
Aspect of Hextor
One of my favorites EPIC units but very over costed for his durability. Seems to work weel agaisnt "Multi-Attack" (More that 3) units and very good damage output..... AoH combined with beholder can be very good choice because engage and disengage tactic.
Dracolich
People are lost much faith in this miniature nevertheless lack much exploration. Happend again the same thing with AoH, very good damage output but low durability....but dracolich seems to have other special advantages that the AoH does not have and seem to mark the difference, one of them? but perhaps the important one is that it can be healed by beholder or non-epic AoN.
Artemis entreri
If you have readed novels of the forgotten realms you would think Artemis like one of the unique personages but powerful and with great character (THE GREAT ENEMY OF DRIZZT D'o!!!). Again the personality has, but the power IS SLEEP?. This epic unit have powerfull and great abilities and can do TONS of damage at mid-range and in close combat. Again the durability suck (EXCUSE ME I HEAR LE????). Artemis have good advantage against unist without melee reach, the Side step and dual activation let him to make 2 full attacks and retreat.... but units with melee reach???. Nevertheless Artemis is an appreciable unit if wizards do not increase the number of undeads and constructs, or if Artemis is aditional Set in hellspike he have protection, Conceal 11. (hellspike the map of LE? I think soo)
Aspect of Bane
I still waiting for good mini!!! plz, some like Range improved aura of fear..... or something with fear.
CHAOTIC EVIL
Balor
Epic Balor provides for a strong, accurate titan commander. With Cleave, can keep your opponent from swarming him. Good comamnder effects and great CRITICAL HIT. Balor is something like play in an casino If enemy fails 1 morale good (2 stars), enemy fail 2 times (triple cherry!!) and if you score one critical hit!! (JACKPOT). I played epic balor in one Tournament and score critical in one fomorian, I make cleave and CRITICAL hit again..... but Which the probability of this??? = 0.25% really low.
Fomorian
The Fomorian is reasonably fast and hits very hard with Melee Reach 3. Can be very devastating in a group. Fomorians dominate le early epic game, no warband can face agaisnt Triple-Fomorian warbands without suffer severe damage. In current metagame tordek devaluate the usage of this mini AC 34 is real chalenge!!!!!!!. Poor fomorians.... Are ready to be destined to the forgetfulness?.
Mountain Troll
Similar to the Fomorian, with more survivability and Stunning Attacks for a few more points. The same problem of the fomorian of being giant. In these days to be a giant is a disadvantage, but this unit has very sceptional properties that fomorian lacks. By 50pts, 210hp and regeneration 10 seem to be the hard point of this miniature the durability, to support heavy damage. 2 Mountain Trolls is 346pts for 420HPS + regen 20 + Low attack bonus woth 40 damage......... You chosse (Hidden teasure?)
Huge Fiendish Spider
At first sight it seems a a little poor unit, but really one is semi-variant of the distinguishing low-costed hitters of CE. Thinking about they fomorian as a unit of low defense and much attack, this great spider is much but defense and less attack, compared to fomorian. Good Hps (180HP), good Fire and Cold resist (Againts mounted paladin), ever loved SR and Wall walker. Have low speed for an huge but good poison. The damage output can improved with drow arachnomancer or Yuan-Ty Abomination, and THIS UNIT IS NO A GIANT but people still have doubts. This units is for fun or tournament??? I think that this unit can be imporved an mixed with ever good fomorians.....
Aspect of Lolth
Ok, at this point the people that play CE see one of the first retro-epic unit.... You can say ok thats no bad, new SA wall walker... sounds good. With the release of the other epic units this unit already seems a shade of a true epic unit. Good vemon, good attack bonus, BAD durability, Good damage vs LG, but poor damage vs CE..... This unit is soo overcosted for his HPs and AC, the real AC of this unit can be near to 25-27 to be competitive or the Hp near 200. If someone has had warband with this unit has been successful, PLZ tell us about the game and the warband that you use.
Warduke
If some human shield exists (Perhaps not so human) that it resists like this unit, perhaps is superman. By points that you pay them to this miniature the durability is sceptional, blindsight is huge and intimidate can be mortal. Also it is good to remember that the independent, All mighty and attack bonus can help in some aspects. In other hand the Warduke lacks of damage output, you see 20 but 5 is of fire. In an game dominated by Resist-Inmune fire units warduke only do 15 MAGIC. Yes i know can be imporved with Methodical Killer but sometimes it can be difficult or near impossible to make this ability works.
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iluvxtina
Underboss
1471 Posts
Spain
| | 08/09/2006 6:36 AM |
| | Nowadays if you want to win in epic mode you,ll surely will play tiamat or bahamut warbands,that,s the truth.In CE the best choice continues being fomorian with orc druid and maybe you could try a nightwalker but is risky,indeed.some people say bluesapwn is a good choice and it,s a tier 1 mini but I do not think so,but a useful mini it is.The same for purple wurm,could be useful but no a tournament winner.Eldritch giant has good matchups,but the same.In the practice at least 50% of the epic warbands are tiamat or bahamut (or more).At least that is in my local gaming zone. | |
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Ryoga
Underboss
1118 Posts
Colombia - Bogota / Italia
| | 08/09/2006 2:27 PM |
| | No more comments????, Who to use Aspect of Nerull? or Aspecto of LOlth?......... Can really work 2 Mountain trolls??? The epic Iron Golem can survive to DR 10?? | |
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ArcticLancer
Skirmisher
15 Posts
| | 08/09/2006 2:37 PM |
| I have an urge to play 2 mountain trolls with a hill giant chieftan just for kicks ...
Is there any fodder to help them out? [:p] | |
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Ryoga
Underboss
1118 Posts
Colombia - Bogota / Italia
| | 08/09/2006 2:45 PM |
| 2x Mountains Trolls 346pts
Hill Giant Chieftain 95pts
Orc Drummer 19pts
Bungear CoE 34pts (Or maybe Tiefling Blade or Capt)
2x Orc Warriors 6pts
Activations 7 - 500pts
Good Hps and good AC..... thanks "Artic lancer" for your feedback
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Ryoga
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Colombia - Bogota / Italia
| | 08/09/2006 2:46 PM |
| | AC in AoO of curse..... 30 sounds good | |
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