Thoth, Gatherer of Knowledge MerricB Underboss
 2353 Posts



 Australia
 | | 08/20/2006 4:00 AM |
| The band:
Epic Tordek Arcane Ballista Couatl Battle Plate Marshal Eberk, Adventurer Cleric of Syreth Meepo, Dragonlord War Weaver
BPM allowed Tordek to base the GBD and then make his full attack (100 damage a round!)
War Weaver & Couatl helped with Snake's Swiftness (another 100 damage)
Tail Sweep countered by War Weaver and Dimension Hop.
Meepo stayed nearby and stopped acid breath.
The Ballista got off one shot (45 damage!) and then had all its allies nearby eliminated.
Only lost Eberk and Syreth in the game.
Happy! | | Merric Blackman
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Wakalimasu Sergeant
 738 Posts



 Calgary
 | | 08/20/2006 4:13 AM |
| wouldn't the ballista do 55 damage? my dragon + 500 pt filler vs 1 LG ballista band and a CG stormarcher wasn't pretty.. i basically got pincusioned | | o_O | |
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 Custom Title WakeXX Warlord
 10152 Posts



 Edinboro PA
 | | 08/20/2006 1:21 PM |
| | Congrats Merric!You must have made the stun save on Tordek,If I was your opponent I would have Tail slapped him then used crush .DC 28 is hard to beat for even as high as level 10,That's what has kept me from playing similar bands against the GBD,I've thought them over and even using Cleric of order for Major resistance I feel Tordek still has too high a chance to get stunned. | | | |
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Hougar Sneak
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 | | 08/20/2006 1:48 PM |
| | What map did you play on? The closest I have seen the GBD get down to was only 130hp, and that was against a dual Ballista +epic Tordek build. Also I would have been impressed if Meepo had stoped any breath weapons, since the Dragon has a line 12 attack. | | Agent of Amish | |
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Dragon King Sneak
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 | | 08/21/2006 11:10 AM |
| [QUOTE]WakeXX wrote You must have made the stun save on Tordek,If I was your opponent I would have Tail slapped him then used crush .DC 28 is hard to beat for even as high as level 10[/QUOTE]
That's what I did when I played the dragon, and if the opponent didn't do it, he wasted the best ability of the beast. Although I played against a CoO + Tordek band, and the scoundrel managed to pass the 28 save twice the 3 times I used Crush. Got the dragon down to 330 HP, pretty good since it was the first time ever we played it. Tordek seems very likely the best piece to take the GBD down. You DO need lots of damage, then it becomes only hard, not impossible! When I played against the dragon, done pretty bad, lowered it only to 485 HP, pretty lame performance, I have to say.
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 Ack Underboss
 1476 Posts




 | | 08/21/2006 11:34 AM |
| I havent tried it yet - but this seems just strange enough that it might work. Dragon Totem Hero, 2x Bluespawn Godslayers, 2x Elf Pyromancers (for elemental immunities for the BSGS) and 2x Bonded Fire Summoners... but not for "activation control" I want the summoners so I can pick where the GBD is gonna land / attack my guys from.4x4 bases are hard to land.. so tossing a dozen or so small fire elementals kinda keeps it contained and allows my "manuverable" huges to get in close and personal.. with some clever placement you could even prevent the tail swipe from moving the model. My biggest concern is that there isnt enough damage output.. its what? 140 max a turn from the BSGS's? Opinions? | | Minis... Serious Business Completed Trades (18 ) | Pending Trades (0) Ebay seller to Avoid –Fantasy_Quest_Dist
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Thoth, Gatherer of Knowledge MerricB Underboss
 2353 Posts



 Australia
 | | 08/21/2006 9:08 PM |
| Used the map from the product. Meepo is surprisingly useful. Note that the dragon's breath has to target the nearest figure... this restricts its usefulness if you spread the figures out a bit. Once the dragon is based by Tordek, if Meepo stands 6 squares away, it's a real pain to get to a useful breath position. Cheers! | | Merric Blackman
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warty_nosed_goblin Underboss
 1384 Posts




 | | 08/21/2006 9:33 PM |
| I got a gargantuan black the other week, but havn't used it yet, mostly because me and my friend have a very limited collection and I know for certain that it could chew its way through anything that we could throw together...if I had to face it using my current collection something like dual formorian with maybe a purple worm for poisoning the thing would be what I used. Does that sound workable? | | Call me: W.N. Gobo! originally posted by grim: While he is clearly insane, he does have a point. | |
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iluvxtina Underboss
 1501 Posts



 Spain
 | | 08/22/2006 5:27 AM |
| I have reach good results against the gargantuan with fomorians,orc druid,wardrummer and drider sorcerer but always have lost against it.The problem is its crush ability.Tordek is the best choice against it but it,s very,very hard to pass the save even using cleric of order.It,s a matter of luck most of times.Arcane ballista is one of my favourite pieces in the last times (with couatl and warweaver). Oh,I have a question for you.Please,could you let me to put my own photo instead the others?It will be funny for me and if you do not mind....Even if you can,t do it,thank you.Bye | | LOVE THIS GIRL | |
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Aesnath Underboss
 1358 Posts



 Augusta, GA
 | | 08/22/2006 4:19 PM |
| I've got to say that beating the GBD is really an accomplishment. After I got one, a friend of mine and I played several warbands against the bugger, and it lost not once. That move and crush is brutal, and the tail slap is very effective. DC 28.....yeah that save gets made alot.
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Thoth, Gatherer of Knowledge MerricB Underboss
 2353 Posts



 Australia
 | | 08/22/2006 5:34 PM |
| [QUOTE]Aesnath wrote I've got to say that beating the GBD is really an accomplishment. After I got one, a friend of mine and I played several warbands against the bugger, and it lost not once. That move and crush is brutal, and the tail slap is very effective. DC 28.....yeah that save gets made alot. [/QUOTE] Eberk gave the group +1 AC and +1 Save before being slain. :) Cheers! | | Merric Blackman
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zhanteel Sneak
 173 Posts




 | | 08/24/2006 7:16 AM |
| | I'll have to try that band out and see if I can do better. I've only had one GBD fight so far, but was pretty happy, having gotten it down to 215hp. I used a tiamat band, and i think if I tweaked it I might be able to win with it. | | "Call no man happy til he is dead" -E Cobham Brewer | |
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Cheese1100 Sneak
 70 Posts




 | | 08/24/2006 5:56 PM |
| | wut does GBD mean | | | |
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Blunt Claymore Sneak
 78 Posts




 | | 08/24/2006 10:23 PM |
| | Has anyone had any luck with Archmages against this critter? It seems like multiple Mordy Swords causing damage at every activation would get pretty painful pretty fast. Do they just not survive long enough? | | A journey of 1,000 miles starts with a good whooping. | |
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Arizzar Skirmisher
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 | | 08/24/2006 11:39 PM |
| [QUOTE]Blunt Claymore wrote Has anyone had any luck with Archmages against this critter? It seems like multiple Mordy Swords causing damage at every activation would get pretty painful pretty fast. Do they just not survive long enough?[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately for the Archmages the GBD only takes damage from Mordenkainens Swords once per round. So it is unlikely that swords will be enough to kill it.
/Arizzar
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Knight of the Round Table Thenameless Warlord
 12507 Posts



 The Fortress of Solitude
 | | 08/25/2006 12:47 AM |
| [QUOTE]Cheese1100 wrote wut does GBD mean[/QUOTE] Gargantuan Black Dragon A new 500 pt creature that's supposed to take on 500 pt warbands, but it usually trounces them pretty soundly. | | Over 270 successful online DDM trades. | |
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Blunt Claymore Sneak
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 | | 08/25/2006 11:30 AM |
| [QUOTE]Arizzar wrote
Blunt Claymore wrote Has anyone had any luck with Archmages against this critter? It seems like multiple Mordy Swords causing damage at every activation would get pretty painful pretty fast. Do they just not survive long enough? |
Unfortunately for the Archmages the GBD only takes damage from Mordenkainens Swords once per round. So it is unlikely that swords will be enough to kill it.
/Arizzar [/QUOTE]
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I don't have the card in front of me, but from my memory doesn't it have 6 activations per round that are then reduced depending on the amount of damage or something? Do those not count as activations then? | | A journey of 1,000 miles starts with a good whooping. | |
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Wakalimasu Sergeant
 738 Posts



 Calgary
 | | 08/25/2006 11:55 AM |
| [QUOTE]Blunt Claymore wrote
Arizzar wrote
Blunt Claymore wrote Has
anyone had any luck with Archmages against this critter? It seems like
multiple Mordy Swords causing damage at every activation would get
pretty painful pretty fast. Do they just not survive long enough? |
Unfortunately
for the Archmages the GBD only takes damage from Mordenkainens Swords
once per round. So it is unlikely that swords will be enough to kill it.
/Arizzar
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I don't have the card in front of me, but from my memory doesn't it
have 6 activations per round that are then reduced depending on the
amount of damage or something? Do those not count as activations
then?[/QUOTE]
no it's a special rule. the gbd only takes (15 damage) per mordesword per round .. not 6 .. same with poison
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arhurt Sneak
 173 Posts




 | | 10/16/2006 12:59 PM |
| I did pretty well against it using:
Artemis Entreri Epic Justicator Epic Beholder Snig + Goblins some more filler
The goblins are there to provide flanks for Artemis. In the first round, a ranged sneak attack from artemis with backstab and a charge with the Justicator take the dragon down one activation (40+60), then Artemis can base the dragon with sidestep for another 60 damage (you have to manevour very carefully with him, I advise starting in the area with the mushroom forest to give him a starting hide position). If you are lucky with the beholder (I wasn't) you might get another activation down on the first round.
Using this warband I was able to get the GBD down to 160 HP. | | Arhurt
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 Bert the Troll Commander
 3964 Posts



 Adelaide
 | | 10/16/2006 6:42 PM |
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no it's a special rule. the gbd only takes (15 damage) per mordesword per round .. not 6 .. same with poison
Yep. Things that happen on activations (eg poisin, M sword) only happen on the GarBlack's first activiation. sword | | "Mutton yesterday, mutton today, and blimey, if it don't look like mutton again tomorrer." Bert the Troll - The Hobbit Semi-Secret sig business: "In the age of the internet attaching a famous name to your personal opinion to give more weight to it is a very valid strategy." - Benjamin Franklin Champion of Epic Lolth, Orcus, & Demogorgon and bring us Asmodeus! | |
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