jozell
Skirmisher
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| Suluth
Greenspawn Razorfiend
Deugar champ x2
vargoul x2Â
kobold miner x2Â Â
The vargoul paralizes the low creatures on the other side and makes it easier for Suluth to get a tasty snack.
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10493 Posts
United States
| | 09/23/2006 5:32 PM |
| There are almost no creatures that you'll face that will miss a DC 12 save, unless they're basically junk to begin with.
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jozell
Skirmisher
42 Posts
| | 09/23/2006 5:55 PM |
| Ya but even junk raises that DC for Suluth
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Low Key
Underboss
1231 Posts
| | 09/23/2006 11:04 PM |
| | I'd drop one of the Vargouilles. The thing is that the DC 12 is so low, even most fodder can make the save 50% of the time. But I've seen people get horribly unlucky with it. One match a while ago had a Brass Samurai, Griffon Cavalry and Half-Ogre Barbarian paralyse on one Shriek. The thing is, that little critter might be worth it jsut for the intimidating factor. Some people get very cautious about it. | |
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Thenameless
Warlord
12507 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 09/23/2006 11:27 PM |
| | I agree with the advice that is being given. For the longest time, LE was the weakest faction, because it had to rely on trying to pull off such tough tricks with low DC's such as this one. Drop the Vargouilles altogether, and just give Shuluth more hitting support. | |
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Sirohk
Commander
3938 Posts
USA
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PDK
Sneak
134 Posts
| | 09/24/2006 4:47 PM |
| | helmed horror is a much better choice for the same price as a razorfiend as you can mind blast right through him | |
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troll4death
Sneak
99 Posts
Whitewater, Wisconsin
| | 09/24/2006 10:29 PM |
| Shuluth is a good commander I think he is best used in this fasion
Shuluth
Duergar Champion
Khumat
Zakya Rakshasa or another Duergar champion (pending on meta game)
Large Duergar
Goblin Warrior X2
Now this leaves you short an activation but it gives you a nice combo
Khumat with the jaws of doom, Duergars have conceal 6, Zakya has chill
touch (bye bye sacred watchers), Shuluth with the disorianting presence
and can do decent melee damage if needed. Not bad I think worked well
for me. Gas bands have trouble with the saves mostly. Just
another of the hundred lawful evil bands I run.
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10493 Posts
United States
| | 09/26/2006 4:56 AM |
| Well, if you're just going with Shuluth ideas, I've always liked a Chraal with him as a bodyguard. Chraals are immune to stun, so it's easy to set up good cones through them. With Firebelchers all over the place, you'll need an anti-fire tech of some kind thesedays, but, it's still worth considering.
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Knowledge Arcana editor issues 5-9, Phoenix Lore Magazine editor, assistant editor for Rite Publishing;
My Trade Thread and My Reference Thread; Winner of WBC IV, IX and XIII; Rule #0: bshugg is always right! | |
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