Adults taking bathroom breaks during a tournament bugs the daylights out of me.

You know what would cure this?  Tag team DDM.

Tie a knot in it.Â

 

 

This topic was extensively discussed in the Forums prior to GenCon.Â

IMO heres what I typically do:

I usually give someone a minute or two or three to make a move of a single piece.  This can vary during the game, typically getting shorter as they have less pieces to move.Â

If they go over 5 minutes I will ask them to please complete there move.Â

After a few more minutes I will warn them that I will call a judge if they do not complete there move.Â

If nothing after that, I call the judge over.Â

I will warn them again if it happens again during the game.Â

After that, I will call the judge and ask for there ruling.Â

Maybe a little more lenient than others, maybe not.Â

I know what you mean. I feel 3 minute turns are good. From what I've encountered things are pretty friendly right now. But the DCI rule is unacceptable. A standard for tournament play should be instituted. A reasonable amount of time is very subjective. Let's say you call a judge over and say this guy has stalled the game. Well thanks for telling me but since everyone else is playing their game I've not been watching yours too bad you could be full of crap too. Now the game is over and your out of luck dude. If you think people aren't that stupid to stall on purpose your wrong. If people are that morally deficient to steal minis online they'll screw you at a tourney. The only reason I say the reasonable part is bad because they're aren't enough judges to watch all tables.

I really don't care if they are playing slow because they are trying to stall or they are playing slow because they are thinking about what they are doing.

Slow play is unacceptable.

Counting every possible move and permintation is unacceptable.

Most game should only take 30 min or less.

A player taking five minutes per move is 100% unacceptable to me.

I think that the only way to solve it is to get remove the reward for slow play. In any game that goes the time limit in less that 6 full rounds both players should be given losses.

I am sure many will disagree with me, but I believe this 100%

 

As soon as you see delays taking place, warn your opponent that you're concerned.  If it persists, don't hesitate to tell a judge.Â

Even when this is not intentional, it can be a problem.  I played against a very inexperienced player in a recent constructed qualifier.  In that match, I positioned a piece to be sacrificed in turn 1 so that I could draw his forces into a bad position and overcome them before they could reunite.  Unfortunately, my foe played so slowly in the first round that we barely made it into the second round when time was called.  I managed to kill one of his pieces in that turn without takibng any further losses.  The other player wasn't trying to delay.  He was just being new and cautious... but the loss on my record would have been the same.

Having all dice rolls made by the active player and using chess clocks seems to me like a very good idea to stop stallling.

It would no doubt be controversial in some respects: we'd probably end up having only dice porivded by the tournament organiser allowed, probably shaken in clear plastic boxes to avoid actual player contact (I'm only half joking). However that to me would be better than the kind of game where one person takes ages over his moves.

Anybody with half a brain should, IMO, have an overall idea of their strategy for the round (if not the game). I've never understood players, in DDM and in other games/wargames who seem to need to react afresh to every new situation. I can understand it when something really unexpected occurs either becuase of an outlandish move or a lucky dice roll, but not every single turn. 

 

 

And Stalling is specifically defined as cheating in ddm (because DCI says so)