vanrulzz
Commander
2778 Posts
    
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| | Post the worst warband you can think of, actually has to reach 198-200 pionts. | | | |
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Low Key
Underboss
1231 Posts
| | 11/11/2006 1:30 PM |
| I'm really tempted to answer "Gaze all day", but half of the crowd wont know what I'm talking about. 
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WakeXX
Warlord
10152 Posts
Edinboro PA
| | 11/11/2006 1:39 PM |
| Posted By Low Key on 11/11/2006 1:30 PM I'm really tempted to answer "Gaze all day", but half of the crowd wont know what I'm talking about.
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10493 Posts
United States
| | 11/12/2006 4:41 AM |
| Gaze all day is pretty bad. Interestingly, this topic comes up every once in a while. I wonder if LE still has the worst bands. There are some bad LG ones:
Lawful Good
Arcane Ballista x4
Gnome Fighter
Stone Golem
Arcane Ballista
Dwarf Phalanx Soldier
City Guard
Lawful Evil
Mummy Lord
Medusa
Human Cleric of Bane
City Guard
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froffenhoffer
Sergeant
702 Posts
| | 11/12/2006 5:20 AM |
| | Gaze all day?? That something with medusas? | |
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Low Key
Underboss
1231 Posts
| | 11/12/2006 7:29 AM |
| Posted By froffenhoffer on 11/12/2006 5:20 AM
Gaze all day?? That something with medusas?
Its something that qualifies as "You had to be there", but yes. It had a Medusa in it. | |
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BigMongo
Sneak
101 Posts
| | 11/12/2006 10:40 AM |
| Cleric of Yondalla
3x Iron Golems
Man-at-arms
200 points that can be distroyed almost completely with just 15 dmg. | |
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Sirohk
Commander
3938 Posts
USA
| | 11/12/2006 4:19 PM |
| Posted By Low Key on 11/12/2006 7:29 AM Posted By froffenhoffer on 11/12/2006 5:20 AM
Gaze all day?? That something with medusas? Its something that qualifies as "You had to be there", but yes. It had a Medusa in it.
  
It was touted as one of the best warbands of all time. But you had to be there. It was very very funny in its day.Â
Worst warband ever, I would like to offer: (I really want to say "nost" but I'll refrain) x4 Warforged Hero's
Alusair Obarskyr
Filler 
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jeremiahcarissa
Warrior
246 Posts
| | 11/12/2006 4:22 PM |
| | who cares!?!?!?! I know this sounds rude but some people use the forums to help their play out and some use it for stuff like this. Take no offense but I find post like this useless to new gamers and up and coming players. | |
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Cincinnatus
Skirmisher
45 Posts
Ohio
| | 11/12/2006 7:30 PM |
| | 8 x Flameskull ? | |
You know you LOVE the Giant Frog. | |
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Nobody Important
Sergeant
718 Posts
| | 11/12/2006 8:10 PM |
| I'd almost certainly include anything with the Human Cleric of Bane that doesn't try to abuse its command effect.
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Lord_rock
Underboss
2045 Posts
Portland OR
| | 11/12/2006 9:54 PM |
| Displaced aggression!!!
the best worst band ever... displacer beasts havn't been seen since harbinger (by most)...
seriously though: harbinger ranged bands... | |
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iluvxtina
Underboss
1501 Posts
Spain
| | 11/12/2006 11:59 PM |
| I think ochre jelly and stone golem are pure *redacted*
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Gunthar
Commander
2938 Posts
| | 11/13/2006 4:54 AM |
| Posted By iluvxtina on 11/12/2006 11:59 PM
I think ochre jelly and stone golem are pure *redacted*
Name calling isnt tolerated The Ochre Jelly had its day (in 100 and tiles especially) and is still an okay fodder blocker. It's lost a lot with so many cheap DR pieces, though.
The Stone Golem got use, and still can in some Beholder-heavy areas, in 500. Again, the rise of DR in so many places limits his usefulness some, but he was a great, semi-durable slow effect in 500.
Bottom line: There is no "worst band". I can play a quirky, oddball mix of stuff and win or lose based on how well I play it. It also depends on matchups. We have one guy locally who loves sneak attacking figures. He does rips through bands until he runs in to constructs or undead, so this bands may be mo9ore matchup dependent, but not bad.Â
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djtool
Sergeant
584 Posts
Crystal MN, USA
| | 11/13/2006 8:31 AM |
| dispite your diatribe gunthar i'm going to say any band that's all trogs. I love playing them though! 
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Round Table
Thenameless
Warlord
12507 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 11/13/2006 9:34 AM |
| Posted By jeremiahcarissa on 11/12/2006 4:22 PM
who cares!?!?!?! I know this sounds rude but some people use the forums to help their play out and some use it for stuff like this. Take no offense but I find post like this useless to new gamers and up and coming players.
He/she might be asking because of an upcoming reverse constructed format tournament. We just had one in our area recently. However, some of these warbands are so bad, that they're already illegal in reverse constructed. | |
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jooquase
Warrior
272 Posts
| | 11/13/2006 12:26 PM |
| | The flying Roper band is also pretty bad, hillarious, but bad ... | |
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Maimonides
Sneak
100 Posts
| | 11/14/2006 8:58 AM |
| | We had a worst of all tournament (players switched bands for the play), with added restriction, of no more than one creature each and must include commander. So no 4 ballistas etc. The band that won the day was Lawful evil with: ambush drake, bladeling fighter, druid of obah hai, kruthik hatchling and few others. Mightily bad warband was also of CE type(would come first of not for the BYE giving better secondary score than normal WIN): witchknife, cleric of laogzed, obad-hai, cultist of the dragon, scorpioncaln drow fighter, wrackspawn(surprisingly good figure. I was annoyed how good it was), blackscale lizardfolk, derro. Last in the tourney came CG build with elminster and LG build with arcane ballista. LG invariably has high ac, which kills.. | |
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The Great
Choco Monster
Ghendar
Warlord
13089 Posts
Mud Lick, Kentucky
| | 11/14/2006 9:28 AM |
| Posted By jeremiahcarissa on 11/12/2006 4:22 PM
who cares!?!?!?! I know this sounds rude but some people use the forums to help their play out and some use it for stuff like this. Take no offense but I find post like this useless to new gamers and up and coming players.
There is not, nor has there ever been ANY rule here at Maxminis which said that all skirmish disucssion has to be limited to only tier 1. | |
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Ryoga
Underboss
1124 Posts
Coquimbo - Chile / Italia
| | 11/14/2006 9:43 AM |
| Posted By Ghendar on 11/14/2006 9:28 AM Posted By jeremiahcarissa on 11/12/2006 4:22 PM
who cares!?!?!?! I know this sounds rude but some people use the forums to help their play out and some use it for stuff like this. Take no offense but I find post like this useless to new gamers and up and coming players. There is not, nor has there ever been ANY rule here at Maxminis which said that all skirmish disucssion has to be limited to only tier 1.
Ok Ghendar your are right, no rule. But I agree that this post is useless to need players.....but personally think that is fun to Old players.... thats the reward. Lets people post whatever they like...Â
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Ack
Underboss
1476 Posts
| | 11/14/2006 9:50 AM |
| /turns on moderator voice
Folks - swearing isnt allowed here. Quoting Swears arent allowed. Picking on people or name calling isnt allowed. Lastly Ghendar is right - we have plenty of threads about misc. junk. Plus, this weekend there is a reverse constructed tournament at SoCal, so this is a VERY viable discussion (tho most of the bands discussed dont qualify). jeremiahcarissa - if you dont like the contents of a thread, just move to the next one.
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forkedmoon
Underboss
1305 Posts
| | 11/14/2006 9:59 AM |
| There is actually quite a bit of benefit to new players if the discussion were to explain why some of these warbands are so bad, why certain figures are so very bad. Maybe then we wouldn't have had so much fun with "Gaze All Day" if it was already known how simply that band could be destroyed.
I learned more about how to play and win in DDM playing bad warbands then I ever did playing Tier 1s. My problem is that I just don't enjoy playing Tier 1 bands and definitely get bored replaying the same band (with the exception of Death Slaads as pointed out to me by legend)
There will be many discussions on these boards that people might not find benefit in but often it is because you have learned the lessons available or the information will not apply to you.
Playing with inferior warbands particularly when both players have inferior warbands will give the strategist a big hand up in the game. Learning what types of abilities are worthless and why will help players make better choices in sealed events. | |
Champion of Cyclops
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Prince o the Raven Banner
Sergeant
606 Posts
| | 11/14/2006 10:12 AM |
| Reverse Constructed is crazy fun, If you haven't tried it, do.
This format is a brilliant way to get use out of those figures that, othewise, you would never use.
Last time I participated in such an event I played;
Phoelarch x2
Brass Samurai
Wood Woad
a bunch of Halfling Sneaks
It was really stinky, no one benefited from the CFX (much), I had to hang the Phoelarches out to dry due to the fact that if they died the pop would auto kill everything else.
The trick is finding Way overcosted figures I think. Phoelarches are a Shoe-in.
Although the Cleric of Yondalla and 4 Iron Golem idea is funny yet almost playable, if you bring bands like that you'll be a genius. 4 Arcane Ballistas and no spell caster support is crooked and would not be allowed in most tournies.
A little off topic, I've deliberately played Flameskull x8 and won a small tourney. * fireballs are fireballs and 8 of em will hurt alot of stuff. | |
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Champion of the Aaracokra
Herald Of Snig Goblin King | |
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rhane
Underboss
1412 Posts
| | 11/14/2006 1:56 PM |
| Posted By BigMongo on 11/12/2006 10:40 AM
Cleric of Yondalla
3x Iron Golems
Man-at-arms
200 points that can be distroyed almost completely with just 15 dmg.
Most reverse constructed type scenarios prevent this, but if not, then I think Mondo is the winner. I can't think of anything worse than this. | |
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JohnnyFive
Warrior
207 Posts
| | 11/16/2006 11:32 AM |
| | I don't know what the worst warband ever would be per se, but I'd venture to say that the Silver Sorcerer and a Phoelarch would be prominently involved. You could also throw in Rikka, if you wanted. Not because she was a horrible peace, but that you could use her Waylay ability and never put her on the board. | |
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Zoons
Underboss
1067 Posts
| | 11/17/2006 9:26 AM |
| True Johnny, but the idea of reverse constructed isn't to lose.
The idea is to bring the worst load of poo you can find and give it to your opponent to play. He'll give you his pile of performance deficient minis and you two have at it. You still try to win, and Rikka will be waylayed in against your Cleric of Yondalla for his win.
I say you gotta fit some Sages in to make a band stink. | |
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Fundin Strongarm
Sneak
62 Posts
Windsor, Ontario, Canada
| | 11/17/2006 10:23 AM |
| Posted By Zoons on 11/17/2006 9:26 AM I say you gotta fit some Sages in to make a band stink.
Yeah, each faction has better choices but I don't think it's the worse. Lizardfolk holds that honour for me for 5 points.
Anyways, using overcosted Summoners can make a warband pretty bad, which is why they are sometimes banned in the format.
If you're interested in rules we've worked out the following for an upcoming league night:
1. Minimum 198 points.
2. Maximum of one of any creature (exception for number 7. below).
3. 1 or 2 Commanders.
4. Minimum Commander rating of 2.
5. All creatures must be under command. (In other words, many Difficult or Wild creatures might not be usable.)
6. Banned creatures include: Arcane Ballista, creatures with Summons spells, Requires Commander, Requires Dwarf Commander, or Command Dependant.
7. All Minions must be included if a creature gets them and do not count as a creature for the purposes of rule 2. above.
8. Minimum of 2 appropriate creatures must be provided for those that may need them (Lich Necromancer, Mina, etc.) if they are included in the warband.
9. Must have a minimum of 4 activations.
10. Must follow all other normal Warband Building rules (faction, 8 creatures maximum, no more than 70% on any one creature, etc.).
11. The Map you bring is what you'll be playing on and doesn't go with the warband you bring.
12. For each game you'll swap warbands with your opponent so you'll always be playing against the warband you brought.
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Ryoga
Underboss
1124 Posts
Coquimbo - Chile / Italia
| | 11/17/2006 12:32 PM |
| | This Sage units sucks.......... is only RPG usable........that "thing" dont do nothing............ | |
Dealing with new life... new country and life without DDM :(
Some day I will be back in board | |
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elf_ranger
Sneak
57 Posts
Delson (South Shore Montreal)
| | 11/21/2006 5:49 PM |
| | the worst I saw by myself is 8 Ghast... | |
Signature... What is that ??? Ah yes its the thing we put below our post that almost no one take the time to read... At least that I dont take the time to read. Oh damn I wrote too much and now I have no more place for signature... Maybe next time... | |
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 11/21/2006 6:23 PM |
| We had a reverse constructed event a while back and I won sticking everyone with this warband.
Cleric of Gruumsh
Large Fire Elemental
Medium Fire Elemental
Magam Hurler
Small Fire Elemental
Flesh Golem
Wrackspawn
Ophidian
No duplicate minis were allowed. Once the Cleric of Gruumsh goes down you lose all the elementals and the Flesh Golem becomes confused. Very hard to win a game with just a Wrackspawn and Ophidian... | | | |
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