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Nate_666
Sergeant
801 Posts
    
Midwest
 | | 01/24/2007 1:39 PM |
| Just wondering what you guys can come up with for a silver sorcerer band, I always try on and off trying to get this guy to work because for some reason i just really like him. Now with Storm+SS+elf dragonkith(s) he might be competitive. So what can you guys come up with??
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greyhaze
Warlord
5809 Posts
| | 01/24/2007 1:41 PM |
| Dragonmark might also help this figure. Storm+SS+Dragonkith+Dragonmark...
I also liked this figure. Won my first tourney with this figure in my warband. | |
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10283 Posts
United States
| | 01/24/2007 2:29 PM |
| Oh God.
I played a Silver Sorcerer in the Maxminis event at GenCon 2005 and had only one loss. Of course, in Sealed, a Silver Sorcerer and a Chuul are an amazing team.
This is quite a challenge.
Storm Silverhand
Silver Sorcerer
Shadowdancer x3
Tavern Brawler
Xeph Warrior x2
In 500-point, it's much easier, just start with Bahamut...
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Faragdar the Wise
Commander
3479 Posts
Albuquerque, NM, USA
| | 01/24/2007 3:45 PM |
| Dragonmark Heir isn't a bad idea, since it's such a pain keeping the sorcerer alive to do stuff. The thing is, you can't give him everything you might want, because he also needs blockers to prevent his spells from being shut down, and with offensive ability being fairly short range, you want to give him allies with a serious ranged threat to bring the enemy incautiously to you.
I think the Bralani Eladrin makes a great ally for the guy. He has a decent ranged attack, he's immune to the lightning bolts, and his whirlwind blast can push enemies out of base contact with the sorcerer, which is a decent alternative to having good blockers. Celestial Pegasus makes a good blocker, I think, with spell resistance and resist electricity 10. Rikka could make a good support hitter, since she also has SR and res elec 10.
57 Storm
49 Silver Sorcerer
35 Bralani Eladrin
38 Elf Dragonkith
06 Devis
09 Celestial Dire Badger (just because he has spell resistance and resist electricity 5)
06 Xeph Warrior x2
I don't know if I really like it much, but Silver Sorcerer is a really tough challenge. Maybe dropping Storm and Dragonkith in favor of a cheaper commander and a couple Pegasi is a better way to go. (And, yes, lantern, you're right that Storm and Devis are a bit redundant.) | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
5809 Posts
| | 01/24/2007 4:33 PM |
| | The SS can heal Storm and give her conceal 6 which can make her a "front liner". | |
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Thenameless
Warlord
8993 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 01/24/2007 8:45 PM |
| | Don't really have anything better than what's been said for the 200 pt arena, but in 500 pt the following could get sort of nasty. Storm Silverhand, Dragonmark HoD, Storm Giant, Silver Sorcerer, a couple of Crow Shaman. | |
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lantern314
Sergeant
684 Posts
| | 01/25/2007 12:01 PM |
| Posted By Faragdar the Wise on 01/24/2007 3:45 PM
57 Storm
49 Silver Sorcerer
35 Bralani Eladrin
38 Elf Dragonkith
06 Devis
09 Celestial Dire Badger (just because he has spell resistance and resist electricity 5)
06 Xeph Warrior x2
I don't know if I really like it much, but Silver Sorcerer is a really tough challenge. Maybe dropping Storm and Dragonkith in favor of a cheaper commander and a couple Pegasi is a better way to go.
With Storm isn't Devis redundant?
Here is my entry
Storm Silverhand
Silver Sorcerer
Elf Dragonkith
Gnome Trickster
Graycloak Ranger
Wolf (minion)
Sharn Cutthroat
Crested Felldrake
My concerns with this warband were the poky speed of the Dragonkith and the extreme fragility of the Silver Sorcerer. I liked the idea posted above to use the whirlwind to move opponents away from the Silver, but that didn't help out the Dragonkith. I decided that the Gnome Trickster was a way to help with both of those. The Invisibility Sphere allows the Silver to move unmolested to position the lightning bolts optimally. It also protects the Dragonkith while it closes to the fight and gives it a bonus on its first attack. I was going to avoid using the Felldrake, but I didn't like having to have the Silver so close to the fight. I felt keeping it next to the Dragonkith gave away some of the advantage of the line spells and made it difficult to fire them without hitting him. If I make the Felldrake invisible I give myself a lot more flexibility to maneuver the Silver while keeping the Dragonkith boosted. I liked the Sharn for its sidestep and think it can help with flanking. The Graycloak gives me a ranged option as well as bringing along the wolf for invisible tile grabbing. | |
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Helzapoppn
Warrior
258 Posts
| | 01/25/2007 1:13 PM |
| Once Unhallowed comes out, I can see potential new options...
57 - Storm Silverhand
49 - Silver Sorceror
12 - Bat Familiar x 2
35 - Bralani Eladrin
28 - Shadowdancer
15 - Graycloak Ranger
xx - Wolf (Minion)
04 - Jozan, Cleric of Pelor
200/9
The bats deliver Blur and Fly as needed, freeing Storm and the Silver Sorc to double move into position. They also screen for the two, and help with activations. Jozan is there to provide that 5 points of healing (if it can help), replace with a Tavern Brawler if you'd rather go that way.
I dunno. | |
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Faragdar the Wise
Commander
3479 Posts
Albuquerque, NM, USA
| | 01/25/2007 7:28 PM |
| 64 Celestial Pegasus x2
49 Silver Sorcerer
43 Dark Traveler
35 Bralani Eladrin
06 Devis
03 Xeph Warrior
I realize Storm makes a good match with the Silver Sorcerer, but her cost makes every Storm/SS band I can come up with look too weak. The Pegasi make good assassins or blockers, whichever you happen to need. If blurring them will make them more survivable, you have that option. The Dark Traveler can make them more formidable by giving them reach. The Eladrin also makes a good fighter for alongside the SS, especially with reach. Maybe it won't be as tough as Storm and a Dragonkith, but this band should keep the SS alive longer. | |
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Gunthar
Commander
2938 Posts
| | 01/25/2007 9:50 PM |
| Here's a figure I LOVE but it's just so pricey for something so squishy.
Storm Silverhand 57
Silver Sorcerer 49 106
Dragomark Heir 34 140
Half-Ogre Barbarian 25 165
Steelheart Archer 15 180
Graycloak Ranger 15 195
T-Wolf minion free
Timber Wolf 5 200
Work as a ranged band throwing Electricity immunity on the Half-Ogre most matches and blast through he and Storm when combat is joined. If you're worried about DR or cover on Mithril Mines, swap the Steelheart and wolf for a Half-Elf Sorcerer and Mialee.
In Epic, she's good to pair with Elminster where 49 points of squish won't hurt you as much. | |
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Foo Fighter
Warrior
188 Posts
| | 01/26/2007 7:09 AM |
| I combined the two challanges, Silver Sorcerer and Clay Golem...
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Thenameless
Warlord
8993 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 01/27/2007 10:20 PM |
| | That one's pretty cool. Allowing the Silver Sorcerer to shoot through both the Clay Golem and the Silverhand might help keep it alive for quite a while. | |
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Foo Fighter
Warrior
188 Posts
| | 01/29/2007 8:03 AM |
| Posted By Thenameless on 01/27/2007 10:20 PM
That one's pretty cool. Allowing the Silver Sorcerer to shoot through both the Clay Golem and the Silverhand might help keep it alive for quite a while.
Yeah, I wonder how two Clay Golems, a Silver Sorcerer, and a Storm (maybe an Epic Storm) would do in Epic format.
I have my first Epic Tournament this weekend but I probably will go with something else.
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The_Duke
Sneak
158 Posts
| | 01/29/2007 11:23 AM |
| Storm Silverhand(57)
Silver Sorcerer(49)
Bralani Eladrin(35)
Bralani Eladrin(35)
Steelheart Archer(15)
Xeph Warrior(3)
Man At Arms(3)
Xeph Warrior(3)
Dragondown Grotto
The Sorcerer can lightning bolt through Silverhand and the Bralani as they are all Immune Electricity, and because of the Electricity Healing, Silverhand can engage sooner than normal.
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Nate_666
Sergeant
801 Posts
Midwest
| | 01/30/2007 1:41 PM |
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Posted By The_Duke on 01/29/2007 11:23 AM
Storm Silverhand(57)
Silver Sorcerer(49)
Bralani Eladrin(35)
Bralani Eladrin(35)
Steelheart Archer(15)
Xeph Warrior(3)
Man At Arms(3)
Xeph Warrior(3)
Dragondown Grotto
The Sorcerer can lightning bolt through Silverhand and the Bralani as they are all Immune Electricity, and because of the Electricity Healing, Silverhand can engage sooner than normal.
I really like the core of storm+SS+bralani x2 in this band, I think i
might try a similar band at my next tourney to see how it can do.
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smilinIrish
Sergeant
908 Posts
| | 01/31/2007 9:28 AM |
| | The only time I've played SS was in 500 with epic storm, epic griffon rider, centaur warhulk, valenar nomad charger, elf warrior, timber wolf, zeph warrior. put fly and blur on centaur, in the first round, then fly on valenar and blur on storm in the second round. Played soth, iron golem, dark naga, beholder x2, artemis entreri, gauth, greenspawn sneak on tomb of queen peregrin. I took out the iron golem with my griffon rider, but lost him to beholder rays (stone I think, his saves are so low). let the valenar get out of range of commander effect, and artemis routed him off the board with a ranged backstab. when I lost the warhulk to beholders, I called the game, as I only had storm left, vs soth, gauth, and both beholders. She'd have been making 6 saves a round blus taking 15 auto fire, and hits from soth. | |
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