Sean-Khan
Commander
2723 Posts
    
 | | 01/29/2007 4:16 AM |
| Hi all,
I've been playing too little recently, and feel more or less out of touch with the game. So, what's the faction balance today? Are the factions balanced well? What are the hottest names for each faction?
I guess that CG cought up pretty well in BW - I love Storm (it looked cool enough for me to fetch it just for that  ) and looking at current thread, I'm not the only one. Oh and shadowdancers of course are on surface.
Wardrummer must still be a necessity for CE. What else for chaotics? What's hot for Lawful factions? Elf Warmage at least feels pretty impressive.
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BoloBaby
Sergeant
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Fort Mill, SC
| | 01/29/2007 7:36 AM |
| What I'm wondering is why there is only an Epic toolkit these days... what happened to the other one?
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Sirohk
Commander
3930 Posts
USA
| | 01/29/2007 3:40 PM |
| Posted By BoloBaby on 01/29/2007 7:36 AM
What I'm wondering is why there is only an Epic toolkit these days... what happened to the other one?
The 200 pt Constructed Toolkits were pulled back during the Community schism last year. You can find partial ones (old ones and some partial updated ones) on our sister station - Hordelings.Â
There has been a fairly large discussion on how usefult they might be today (again over at the sister station) and that a new style / format / TBD might be in order. And I totally agree.Â
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Sirohk
Commander
3930 Posts
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| | 01/29/2007 3:44 PM |
| Posted By Sean-Khan on 01/29/2007 4:16 AM Hi all, I've been playing too little recently, and feel more or less out of touch with the game. So, what's the faction balance today? Are the factions balanced well? What are the hottest names for each faction? I guess that CG cought up pretty well in BW - I love Storm (it looked cool enough for me to fetch it just for that ) and looking at current thread, I'm not the only one. Oh and shadowdancers of course are on surface. Wardrummer must still be a necessity for CE. What else for chaotics? What's hot for Lawful factions? Elf Warmage at least feels pretty impressive.
Current hot pieces:
LG
Thundertusks
Kolyarut
Elf Dragonkith (mostly in CG)
CG
Storm Silverhand
Shadowdancers
Valenar Nomad Charger
Bralani Eladrin
LE
Firegiant Forgepriest
CE
Marilith
Vlaakith
LG/LE
Maugs
Dragonmark Heir
That about sums up the current hot pieces (although I may have missed a few).Â
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Thenameless
Warlord
11730 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 01/29/2007 4:20 PM |
| | I concur, Sirohk's list is bang-on for Blood War pieces. Exactly, what's been showing up at our last few tournaments. | |
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thepwner
Skirmisher
42 Posts
| | 01/29/2007 5:34 PM |
| CG
Storm Silverhand
Shadowdancers
Valenar Nomad Charger
Bralani Eladrin
I think you forgot the gnome trickster!!! seriously everybody has been talking about this guy. His invisibility sphere is changing alot of chaotic good warband styles. | | | |
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greyhaze
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Sean-Khan
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Sirohk
Commander
3930 Posts
USA
| | 01/30/2007 3:34 AM |
| Posted By thepwner on 01/29/2007 5:34 PM CG
Storm Silverhand
Shadowdancers
Valenar Nomad Charger
Bralani Eladrin
I think you forgot the gnome trickster!!! seriously everybody has been talking about this guy. His invisibility sphere is changing alot of chaotic good warband styles.
Shhhh! No need for more people to be playing that little pain in the arse.Â
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BoloBaby
Sergeant
640 Posts
Fort Mill, SC
| | 01/30/2007 5:44 AM |
| "Community schism"
Well that explains a lot. See... leave for a few months, come back, and wonder why things got so quiet around here compared to how it used to be...
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greyhaze
Warlord
6879 Posts
| | 01/30/2007 7:31 AM |
| Posted By Sean-Khan on 01/30/2007 1:43 AM
Btw, what about Acheron Goblins, are they too weak after all? They rock for their cost with Snig or Urthok. | |
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iluvxtina
Underboss
1501 Posts
Spain
| | 01/30/2007 8:07 AM |
| | For me the hot piece is gnome trickster (his invisivility is the best).Anther CG hot pieces are shadowdancer and storm silverhand.But I think the game continue being unbalanced:LG teams continue being much more powerful than the other factions (at least in my local metagame).CG ahev benn power up,but it continue needs more support | |
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10445 Posts
United States
| | 01/30/2007 10:39 AM |
| There are a lot of hot pieces right now, I think.
CG: Storm, Bralani, Air Genasi, Shadowdancer, Gnome Trickster, but, also, there's plenty of fun left in some of the older pieces including Inspiring Marshal, Frenzied Berserker, Archmage, Valenar Nomad Charger, Wand Expert, Crow Shaman, Xen'drik Champion, and even the Half-Ogre Barbarian when it's with Storm.
LE: Firegiant Forgepriest, Dragonmark Heir, Maug, Duergar Champion, Zakya Rakshasa, Large Green Dragon, and Urthok, Rakshasa, and Snig still get mention as commanders, as goes the Red Hand War Sorcerer; some folks have been talking about Horned Devil, Lord Soth and Steel Predators too.
CE: Vlaakith is getting some attention, and, with her, some older pieces are seeming potentially useful. The Orc Champion is still discussed regularly. Not everyone plays an Orc Wardrummer, but, it's definitely worth considering. The Marilith seems to be sought-after by at least a handful of players.
LG: The usual, plus Kolyarut and Maug. The Sacred Watcher is still prevalent, and may outnumber Gith Monks this year.
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Sirohk
Commander
3930 Posts
USA
| | 01/30/2007 4:41 PM |
| Conversely, I have not seen hide nor hair of the following warbands being played:
Kordacopia
GAS
Multi Firebelchers
Marut
Just a little more intel for ya.Â
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10445 Posts
United States
| | 01/30/2007 5:10 PM |
| Posted By Sirohk on 01/30/2007 4:41 PM
Conversely, I have not seen hide nor hair of the following warbands being played...
From which it does not, however, follow, that those bands aren't lurking in the shadows. I think that Korducopia and GAS are still viable in the current meta. (I don't think they're at the top anymore though.)
Dave
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Sirohk
Commander
3930 Posts
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| | 01/30/2007 6:32 PM |
| Posted By Vrecknidj on 01/30/2007 5:10 PM lurking in the shadows.
Dave
That sounds more like Shadowdancers to me.Â
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MAURIZIO
Sergeant
951 Posts
Lima, Perú
| | 01/31/2007 5:08 PM |
| Posted By Sirohk on 01/30/2007 4:41 PM Conversely, I have not seen hide nor hair of the following warbands being played: Kordacopia GAS Multi Firebelchers Marut Just a little more intel for ya.Â
And What about Inspiring Invisible Berserkers???
Inspiring marshall 29
frenzied berserker x2 104
Gnome Trickster 27
Shadowdancer 28
fodders (12 points)
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warty_nosed_goblin
Underboss
1384 Posts
| | 01/31/2007 6:32 PM |
| | I'm not sure how much invisibility adds to the FBs, particularly with the GMA. The GMA essentially allows them to get into position without taking attacks anyway, which is essentially what invisibility does. The only advantage of invisibility would be protection from ranged attacks, but that seems fairly minor. In an Inspired Frenzy band, I'd much rather play a Crow Shamen for the Snake's Swiftness. | |
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
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Sirohk
Commander
3930 Posts
USA
| | 02/02/2007 3:22 AM |
| Posted By Vrecknidj on 02/01/2007 7:15 PM
I wonder how FB x3 + Rikka will do in the current environment.
Dave
That's the warband Lord Raven played last year - his "Brady Bunch":
x3 FB
Rikka
Elf Warrior
x3 Xeph
200 pts 8 activations
It can be a very tough matchup, at any time.Â
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Sirohk
Commander
3930 Posts
USA
| | 02/02/2007 3:31 AM |
| Just a further thought.Â
IMO "Invisifrenzy" can win a lot of games if played well:
VERSION A
x3 Frenzied Berserker 156
Gnome Trickster 27
Devis 6
x2 Tavern Brawler 8
Xeph 3
VERSION B
x3 Frenzied Beserkers 156
Gnome Trickster 27
Devis 6
Timber Wolf 5
2 Xephs 6
Map: Dragon Shrine
8 activations 200 pts both versions
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lingster
Sergeant
778 Posts
| | 02/02/2007 4:08 AM |
| Just how many peices in today's warband builds for 200pts can hit an AC of 28... or even 30?
I'm betting not a whole lot, and if there are, they'd take up most of your warband. | |
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Sirohk
Commander
3930 Posts
USA
| | 02/04/2007 1:29 PM |
| Posted By lingster on 02/02/2007 4:08 AM Just how many peices in today's warband builds for 200pts can hit an AC of 28... or even 30? I'm betting not a whole lot, and if there are, they'd take up most of your warband.
Now I know what you were talking about. You sly devil you.Â
Its too bad we did not get to find out. Maybe at a future event. And I'm looking forward to it.Â
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Thenameless
Warlord
11730 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 02/04/2007 10:45 PM |
| | Storm Silverhand and Shadowdancers are very popular in our area right now. So much so, that one of the guys has reverted back to putting a Helmed Horror in all of his warbands (he always plays LE). | |
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