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nyjastul69
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02/09/2007 5:03 AM  
What is wretched format?  There is a local con that has an one of these events.  It's templecon in Providence, RI.
 
http://www.templecon.org/



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02/09/2007 5:10 AM  
It's here: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mit/20070111a

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02/09/2007 5:29 AM  
Thanks. It's kinda weird though. I'm not sure it's something I would enjoy.



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02/09/2007 5:56 AM  
It's a blast to play with friends. You all get to use minis you'd otherwise not use very much.

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02/09/2007 6:44 AM  
It can be fun. However, WotC's rules are somewhat poor.
Try these:
1. Minimum 198 points.
2. Maximum of one of any creature (exception for number 7. below).
3. 1 or 2 Commanders.
4. Minimum Commander rating of 2.
5. All creatures must be under command. (In other words, many Difficult or Wild creatures might not be usable.)
6. Banned creatures include: Arcane Ballista, creatures with Summons spells, Requires Commander, Requires Dwarf Commander, or Command Dependant.
7. All Minions must be included if a creature gets them and do not count as a creature for the purposes of rule 2. above.
8. Minimum of 2 appropriate creatures must be provided for those that may need them (Lich Necromancer, Mina, etc.) if they are included in the warband.
9. Must have a minimum of 4 activations.
10. Must follow all other normal Warband Building rules (faction, 8 creatures maximum, no more than 70% on any one creature, etc.).
11. The Map you bring is what you'll be playing on and doesn't go with the warband you bring.
12. For each game you'll swap warbands with your opponent so you'll always be playing against the warband you brought.

Tinker with those rules a little if you want but they are fairly solid and avoid the pieces that would cause problems in the format.

(Edited for ease of reading--mod.)


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02/09/2007 6:57 AM  
I like to play 200 point wretched as minimum 200 points (instead of max 200). You want to give your opponent a 250 point band? Go right ahead.
I agree that all creatures should be under command. 1-2 commanders is a good idea. The banned list is always something you have to play around with.

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02/09/2007 7:07 AM  
I might actually try this one. I'll be limited by the WotC rules as it will be at a Con. I haven't skirmished in over 2 years. I can prolly make a poor war band by trying to make a decent one ironically.

I've decided it's Kyle's Stupid Question Day.


What exactly is meant by 'Limited play'? As in

D&D Minis Limited Tournaments begin
2:30pm-? (repeating throughout the afternoon and evening)
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/minis

Entry Fee: $30 per player (3 boosters per player)

There is also

Saturday noon -
D&D Miniatures Northeast Open
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/minis

Attend a D&D miniatures sanctioned event to prepare for, as you go head to head to
prove who the best player is in the Northeast. Further Details TBA.

This last one is a constructed event, correct? Also if it's a sanctioned event, do I have to be registered with DCI or somesuch?




Why is wretched format limited to Aberrations through Blood War?






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02/09/2007 8:19 AM  
Posted By nyjastul69 on 02/09/2007 7:07 AM
Why is wretched format limited to Aberrations through Blood War?


Guess the simple answer is a lot of the pre-Abberations figures are very very wretched (Cleric of
Bane and Stone Golem) and rather than ban a bunch of them they just rule out the sets.

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02/09/2007 8:24 AM  
Posted By Raland on 02/09/2007 8:19 AM
Posted By nyjastul69 on 02/09/2007 7:07 AM
Why is wretched format limited to Aberrations through Blood War?


Guess the simple answer is a lot of the pre-Abberations figures are very very wretched (Cleric of
Bane and Stone Golem) and rather than ban a bunch of them they just rule out the sets.


But wouldn't that make them good for a wretched band?



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02/09/2007 8:39 AM  
Posted By nyjastul69 on 02/09/2007 8:24 AM
Posted By Raland on 02/09/2007 8:19 AM
Posted By nyjastul69 on 02/09/2007 7:07 AM
Why is wretched format limited to Aberrations through Blood War?


Guess the simple answer is a lot of the pre-Abberations figures are very very wretched (Cleric of
Bane and Stone Golem) and rather than ban a bunch of them they just rule out the sets.


But wouldn't that make them good for a wretched band?

It would make it "too" good of sorts, then all the bands might be the same

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02/09/2007 11:12 AM  
Looks like a great tourney format for a venue to sell fodder that's clogging the "trade" bin or sale case.

Should add the caveat, players may microwave any units they own after the battle!

Anyone up for a list of the worst of the worst?
I'll vote for the Spellstiched Hobgoblin Zombie.
Super-slow, low attack, low damage, low defense, low HP, and has to touch to use it's spells. I only wish it cost more than 11 points!!

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02/09/2007 12:28 PM  
Posted By joedj on 02/09/2007 11:12 AM
Looks like a great tourney format for a venue to sell fodder that's clogging the "trade" bin or sale case.

Should add the caveat, players may microwave any units they own after the battle!

Anyone up for a list of the worst of the worst?
I'll vote for the Spellstiched Hobgoblin Zombie.
Super-slow, low attack, low damage, low defense, low HP, and has to touch to use it's spells. I only wish it cost more than 11 points!!

That's a heck of an idea, thanks.



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02/09/2007 12:47 PM  
It's pretty easy to find total crap pieces in the lower cost areas -- Dolgrim, Ethereal Filcher, Spellstitched HobZomb, Giant Frog, Soldier of Bytopia, etc. -- but what happens when you only have two slots left and 100 points to spend?

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02/09/2007 1:22 PM  
From what I have tried to build I always have to give them "something" that is a serious threat.

I was thinking maybe a Lillend...she could be really bad because low ac and low hp for 44points BUT she flies you don't want your crappy guys hit by her because it is 15 damage and she has Beguile which could mess up all your guys with low saves.

So, I really don't know what to do with 100 points and 2 actiavtions either.

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