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Nate_666
Sergeant
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Midwest
 | | 03/12/2007 6:43 PM |
| I was wondering if you guys could help me decide upon some hitters to pair with the virtous charger. I have already decided to use Storm as my commander and to probably have a comyrean war wizard (or w/e its called) as a back up caster, but for the actuall support hitters I can't decide. I'm thinking maybe bralani, VNC, air genasi, some shadowdancers, half ogre barbarian, xendrick champs, or/and dwarf battleragers. A wand expert would be nice but I would rather have the wizard for less points and its more survivable. I will probably throw a graycloak in there if i have 15 points for my fodder type characters b/c of the activation control, giant foe vs hill giant barbarian if they show up again and FGFP, and also for magic fang on v-charger. What do you guys think? Thanks for any input.
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bonelock
Underboss
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Nobody Important
Sergeant
718 Posts
| | 03/12/2007 8:43 PM |
| Although it is ancient you may want to find a Bladesinger or similiar to give that Charger a better chance of hitting. I like the Charger well enough but only attacking at +11/+9 may have problems against the higher ACs out there.
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Nate_666
Sergeant
801 Posts
Midwest
| | 03/12/2007 9:06 PM |
| I decided that I am going to for sure either have MW or MFang to put on the V-charger, possibly both. That combined with a flank will be +14/12, which i can live with. I want a commander that will help insure the passing of his MC (thus the reason for storm). The wizard was there for auto damage b/c of the lowist bonuses, to heal storm, do aoe damage, and slide the VC away from units so that it can move and use its skirmish attack ability. I didn't want to rely on xendricks b/c then all my damage output would be dependent on moving then attacking. What do you guys think? I really might have to try it with cleric of sune though, sounds quite fun.
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Faragdar the Wise
Commander
3547 Posts
Albuquerque, NM, USA
| | 03/12/2007 10:31 PM |
| Posted By Nobody Important on 03/12/2007 8:43 PM
Although it is ancient you may want to find a Bladesinger or similiar to give that Charger a better chance of hitting.
'Tis an excellent idea. I like the good old Bladesinger, and this is a perfect use for her.
34 Bladesinger
120 Virtuous Charger x3
27 Gnome Trickster (invisibility sphere after charging--allows them to move freely for another skirmish attack with commander's attack bonus, assuming no enemy blind sight, and can later slide one for another skirmish attack)
09 Wild Elf Warsinger
06 Devis
03 Xeph Warrior
Another option might be Storm to make it fly, and a War Weaver to magic weapon them and hop them back for a second charge.
57 Storm
33 War Weaver
80 Virtuous Charger x2
18Â Wild Elf Warsinger x2 (three wild elves make good bull's strength targets)
06Â Wild Elf Raider
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VitekS
Skirmisher
1 Posts
| | 03/13/2007 3:17 AM |
| I have two bands with VC 200pts and 500pts for fun:
1)
Champions of Eilistrae   48
Asura                             40
Virtuous Charger           40
Shadowdance               28
Xen'drik Champion        23
WEWÂ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 9
Lloth's Sting                   7
Catfolk                           5
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                                     200pts
2)
Champions of Eilistrae   48
Moon Elf Fighter             49
Asura                             40
Virtuous Charger           40
Shadowdance               28
WEWÂ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 9
Rikka              EPIC     143
Guenhwyvar  EPIC      141
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                                    498pts
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Janos M.
Underboss
1015 Posts
Hamburg / GErmany
| | 03/13/2007 7:53 AM |
| Ok, only for you:
Storm Silverhand 57
Cormyrean Warwizard 29
Virtous Charger 40
Xen'drik Champion 23
Xen'drik Champion 23
Graycloak Ranger 15
Mialee Elf Wizard 6
Ragnara, Psychic Warrior 7
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Nate_666
Sergeant
801 Posts
Midwest
| | 03/13/2007 1:26 PM |
| Last night i played:
Storm silverhand
Bralani Eladrin
Virtous Charger
Graycloak ranger +wolf
Xeph Warrior
Mialee
Aramil
Cormyrean war wizard
-on vassal, and it worked out pretty good. I wouldn't consider running that band competitively as a tier 1 band, it just doesn't feel right (maybe lack of hiters). I was just testing out the Virtous Charger, and seeing if bralani worked well with him, and if the magic fang and magic weapon were both needed. I played vs. SWarm and won the game in a fairly close match. I thought that the charger played pretty well, but if he was based i didn't know if i should take the aoo and move so that I had 45 potential damage output, or stay and just double attack. I decided never to take the aoo, as i might just miss w/ both of my attacks b/c of the SWs' conceal 11. The wizard was worthless in this match as his spells never passed conceal, and once he was based he couldn't do anything but take an aoo and try to cast something, which always missed anyways. I'm going to further test this band and see what i think of the pieces when they are played to their maximum, then I will modify+test, modify+test, and keep repeating until I have a warband I am perfectly comfortable playing with.
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Crow_Shaman
Skirmisher
31 Posts
| | 03/14/2007 7:16 PM |
| I love all the above suggestions as I've always been a fan of CG, and I love Storm. The Virtuous Charger is one of my favorite new pieces as well. I feel she needs better to hits though, so I like the Cleric of Sune with them. Also, I'm excited about this:
Ryld Argith 55
Virtuous Charger x2 80
Wild Elf Warsinger x2 18
Not sure what else I want. Plenty of options though from Shadowdancers to another VC. I think Ryld has always been great, but needed better Humanoids to make him worth it. Maybe he's ready for action now? | |
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Gunthar
Commander
2938 Posts
| | 03/14/2007 9:02 PM |
| | I'm tempted to try her with the Cleric of Corellon, especially in storm-heavy areas. Same Commander rating, and Elves save +4 when you aren't facing Countersong, + add a bat for buffing and a Graycloak for +14/+12 first round. | |
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Underboss
1210 Posts
Wadsworth, OH
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Crow_Shaman
Skirmisher
31 Posts
| | 03/15/2007 5:08 PM |
| Posted By nycfarmkid on 03/15/2007 4:05 AM
You might have trouble keeping the Cleric of Corellon on the board with all the flying figure around today. I love the piece, but it is only one hit from most figures away from making a morale check at +8. Especially if there are a lot of flying valenars.
I agree with that assesment. I too had thought about him as a commander, but came to the same conclusion.Â
To add to my last post, I think the gnome trickster is great addition. So far I have=
Ryld 55
VC x2 80
Gnome Trickster 27
WEW x2Â 18
6 act. 180pts
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nycfarmkid
Underboss
1210 Posts
Wadsworth, OH
| | 03/15/2007 5:17 PM |
| Posted By nycfarmkid on 03/15/2007 4:05 AM
You might have trouble keeping the Cleric of Corellon on the board with all the flying figure around today. I love the piece, but it is only one hit from most figures away from making a morale check at +8. Especially if there are a lot of flying valenars. I agree with that assesment. I too had thought about him as a commander, but came to the same conclusion.�
Its unfortunate too, because I so loved the Cleric of Corellon. right now I'd only run him/her in conjuntion with two other figures. If you pair him/her with the Gnome Trickster the invis might make your opponent thionk twice before attacking her. The other figure is the Sky Captain since he takes flight away and it would be more difficult to get to the Cleric. | |
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Lord_rock
Underboss
2045 Posts
Portland OR
| | 03/15/2007 5:50 PM |
| Bust out the Cleric of Corellon!!! MW+ bless + magic fang and the charger is way viable! Great saves then too! How about the possibility of a failed hold person followed by a skirmish charge with a warsinger...
CCL
Virt chargerx2
Nomad charger
warsinger
greycloak
167 with 7 acts!
Virt charger
Asura
Marid
Trix
153 with the invisible asura dumping auto dmg over all three hitters
Lots of options... Mixing virt and val chargers is probably useful as is a bat familiar for instant healing... so many options after this set... | |
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