Posted By BoloBaby on 04/11/2007 12:43 PM
You may now consider the Thieves' Quarter the *ultimate* anti-Shadowdancer option - NO WALLS!

(Unless they rule that the border between rooftopand ground squares count as walls to the ground squares.)

Posted By GelatinousChicken on 04/10/2007 12:25 AM
With regards to the dancers, a particular warband came to my mind the other day; one that stirred up some discussion last year for its high variance, but I was thinking that maybe it might be less of a factor this year since those LG ACs are not as popular. The band I have in mind is the good ol' two Hill Giant Barbarian band:

Hill Giant Barbarian x2   156
Drow Sergeant   16
Orc Wardrummer   19
Orc Warrior x3   9
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200 points, 7 activations


My first obvoius observation was the plain damage output--even with their avoid attack, that's a lot of damage to dodge not to mention even with their sneak attacks, there's a lot of hit points there (assuming morales can be made). What do you guys think? Could last year's relic make a comeback?

Posted By BoloBaby on 04/11/2007 12:43 PM
You may now consider the Thieves' Quarter the *ultimate* anti-Shadowdancer option - NO WALLS!

(Unless they rule that the border between rooftopand ground squares count as walls to the ground squares.)

Thieves’ Quarter
Narrow building and back alleys provide a multileveled skirmish battleground, as your creatures battle between and atop the buildings.
If a creature is on a rooftop, that creature has line of sight to other creatures on the same rooftop. When determining line of sight between creatures on different rooftops, or when one creature is on a rooftop and the other is on the ground, line of sight is blocked if it crosses two edges of the same rooftop square (or a corner of such a square). Line of effect is similarly blocked.
For melee attacks, rooftop squares are not considered adjacent to ground-level squares. This means that moving along a rooftop past a creature on the ground would not provoke attacks of opportunity. Likewise, a creature on a rooftop square cannot use a melee attack against a creature on a ground square, and vice versa.
Moving up : There are nine ladders on the map. A creature in a ladder square can use 2 squares of movement to move to an adjacent rooftop square.
Moving Down : A creature on a rooftop and adjacent to a ladder square can use 2 squares of movement to move into that ladder square. A nonflying creature that movesfrom a rooftop to an alley square in any other fashion takes 10 points of damage (unless crossing a bridge).
Bridges : Wooden planks serve as bridges linking the buildings. A creature can move from one end of a bridge to the other, but cannot end its movement on a bridge. The creature’s path must include the rooftop squares at the endpoints of each bridge.
Flying creatures can move over rooftop and ground squares interchangeably. A Large flying creature must end its movement entirely on rooftop squares or ground squares. A flying creature with the ability to make an attack while moving must be entirely in ground squares to attack a creature on the ground, but can make such attacks against creatures on rooftops even when in ground squares.

Posted By froffenhoffer on 04/15/2007 5:26 AM
I beat 2 dancer bands at the UK nats with FGFP and 2x Helmed Horrors.. THe high AC means even if 4 blink/attack the fgfp, he still doesnt often take MS, and can force a MS per hit on dancers, and horros can take out other ones fast..