Autoxdsm
Sergeant
814 Posts
    
Myrtle Beach, SC
 | | 05/24/2007 2:19 PM |
| I was just brain storming some ideas for the new Large Gold Dragon. I was wondering what you guys think about his 140pt cost and how you are going to build around it?
I was thinking about something like this:
Cleric of Yondalla
Large Gold Dragon
Sacred Watcher
Sacred Watcher
Jozan
Man-at-Arms x2
200/7
Map: King's Road
Now of course we don't now the stats on the LGD but it says they gain Magic Weapon and Magic Armor if this is typical MW and MA they will gain +1 attack, magic Damage and +4 AC. This would make the sacred watchers pretty beefy. If they gain more like +5 damage or Damage Reduction it would just be a bonus.
This really the only warband I can come up with that has a decent amount of activations and other damage sources. Tech has to be kept really low or you will lose damage output. Atleast the LGD has a fare amount of tech built in with the Weakness Cone (hopefully -4 attack -10 damage) and the Dragon's Hoard ability.
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Nate_666
Sergeant
801 Posts
Midwest
| | 05/24/2007 2:28 PM |
| Im very dissapointed in the dragons starting attack damage, i mean 15 each is nothing compared to figs 1/4 its cost.
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Autoxdsm
Sergeant
814 Posts
Myrtle Beach, SC
| | 05/24/2007 2:41 PM |
| | We will have to wait and see what the requirements for the "wrath to kick in." I am really hoping I can use him because I like the Gold dragons. | |
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iluvxtina
Underboss
1497 Posts
Spain
| | 05/24/2007 3:05 PM |
| | 140 points and 15 damage?Ridiculous!I cannot believe it.I only hope this will be a mistake or the other abilies will be brutal.If not....another collecting dust dragon | |
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Thenameless
Warlord
9044 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 05/24/2007 3:51 PM |
| | I'm actually worried that the Large Gold will be a bit too powerful. Wasn't it described as something like the first true titan or the titan's titan or something like that? I bet it's gonna be hard to kill in a 1 hour DCI match. Hopefully, it's not as dominant as I fear it might be. | |
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Ryoga
Underboss
1124 Posts
Coquimbo - Chile / Italia
| | 05/24/2007 4:14 PM |
| Posted By Thenameless on 05/24/2007 3:51 PM
I'm actually worried that the Large Gold will be a bit too powerful. Wasn't it described as something like the first true titan or the titan's titan or something like that? I bet it's gonna be hard to kill in a 1 hour DCI match. Hopefully, it's not as dominant as I fear it might be.
Im worried too... LGD potencial seems to be very powerup... and this is not a titan is a "MEGA TITAN" :S I hope dont see it in tournament..
Im more worried in limited - sealed games this dragon will be huge....
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Sirohk
Commander
3812 Posts
USA
| | 05/24/2007 5:20 PM |
| Posted By Ryoga on 05/24/2007 4:14 PM Posted By Thenameless on 05/24/2007 3:51 PM
I'm actually worried that the Large Gold will be a bit too powerful. Wasn't it described as something like the first true titan or the titan's titan or something like that? I bet it's gonna be hard to kill in a 1 hour DCI match. Hopefully, it's not as dominant as I fear it might be. Im worried too... LGD potencial seems to be very powerup... and this is not a titan is a "MEGA TITAN" :S I hope dont see it in tournament.. Im more worried in limited - sealed games this dragon will be huge....
Double ditto on Ryoga and thenameless.Â
In sealed he will rule, at least it may seem that way.Â
And if he's as powerful as he sounds, he could be a beast in Constructed.Â
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scruffydude7
Underboss
1196 Posts
Rock Hill, SC
| | 05/24/2007 5:49 PM |
| Posted By Autoxdsm on 05/24/2007 2:19 PM
Now of course we don't now the stats on the LGD but it says they gain Magic Weapon and Magic Armor if this is typical MW and MA they will gain +1 attack, magic Damage and +4 AC. Â
I don't think it meant that everyone else in the warband will be under the effects of the spells magic weapon and mage armor, but rather that it would be a special ability that simulates the rest of the war band physically donning armor and weapons from his horde. I imagine it will be a very slight bonus to AC and magic damage, and possibly a bonus to attack as well.
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Sirohk
Commander
3812 Posts
USA
| | 05/26/2007 5:15 PM |
| If the Large Gold Dragon is a Commander, how about: Â Large Gold Dragon 140 pts Elf Dragonkith 38 Mialee 6
x2Â TÂ Wolf 10
x2 Man @ Arms 6
200 pts, 7 activations
Map: Drow Outpost
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WakeXX
Warlord
10131 Posts
Edinboro PA
| | 05/26/2007 10:47 PM |
| | I'll have to wait for the stats,either the LGD will be super dominant or unplayable. | | | |
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Mandavar
Sneak
63 Posts
Germany
| | 05/26/2007 11:55 PM |
| Posted By Vrecknidj on 05/26/2007 3:17 PM
Large Gold Dragon
Cleric of Order
Aramil
Mialee
Timber Wolf x2
Man-at-Arms x2
This assumes that the Gold isn't a commander.
Dave
I think its a solid warband altough we dont know everything about the LGD.
The damage output with 3x 15 damage attacks and very high a.ratings is not that bad! Think of the Large Silver Dragon. He was and still is a pretty good peace to play especially with CoO. The other abilities of the LGD are crazy good! If its true you get a 40damage fire cone with DC22. Thats incredible!
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Bert the Troll
Commander
3858 Posts
Adelaide
| | 05/27/2007 5:33 PM |
| Posted By iluvxtina on 05/24/2007 3:05 PM
140 points and 15 damage?Ridiculous!I cannot believe it.I only hope this will be a mistake or the other abilies will be brutal.If not....another collecting dust dragon
It seems like way too littl;e damage, making the gold mor likely a turtle imo.
Though breath weapons will most likley be nice.
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I still think the hoard ability will grant magic weapon effect, with the armour being +1 AC at most with DR. | |
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Thenameless
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9044 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 05/27/2007 5:54 PM |
| Winning with the Gold seems like a simple three step process.
1) Fly in, breathe, and nerf 1 or 2 of your opponent's key pieces.
2) When they swarm your Gold, breathe the best fire cone you can, and kill or rout stuff.
3) Wait for wrath to kick in, then start beating on your opponent. If it looks like the Gold could die, fly away for the win.
Steps 1 & 2 are interchangeable depending on what your opponent gives you. Also, somewhere around step 2, the Gold should be flown to a victory area to assure tile points for as many rounds as possible. | |
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Bert the Troll
Commander
3858 Posts
Adelaide
| | 05/27/2007 7:12 PM |
| | And dont forget cleric of order and/or Dragonmark heir and/or Eberk for extra buffing pleaure. | |
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juanchoquinche
Sneak
161 Posts
colombia/bogota
| | 05/27/2007 7:18 PM |
| the large gold dragon will be a beast in a tournament i want it  | |
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Thenameless
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The Fortress of Solitude
| | 05/27/2007 9:34 PM |
| | For limited play, hell yeah! | |
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Autoxdsm
Sergeant
814 Posts
Myrtle Beach, SC
| | 05/27/2007 11:18 PM |
| I really hope I pull one out of my case. I don't want to try ad trade for him.
I think wrath will really help out his damage output. I wish he was a commander so you wouldn't have to worry about squeezing in the Cleric of Order or Cleric of Yondalla. | |
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iluvxtina
Underboss
1497 Posts
Spain
| | 05/28/2007 5:52 AM |
| | Humm....I,m not sure about the power of this large gold.It is simply too poor damage for 140 points.I explain myself: I,like you,love this gold and would like very much it will be a powerhouse unbeatable but I doub it.Too little damage and high costed.We will see when they realeased it and fight.Will it beat the future black/shadow dragons warbands? | |
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Pedro
Commander
3922 Posts
Czech Republic
| | 05/30/2007 1:12 AM |
| He sure will be an auto-win in limited.
Trading for it? Oh, dear, suicide
I like the CoO build more. Got to trade for him.
I am looking forward to this mini. | |
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Autoxdsm
Sergeant
814 Posts
Myrtle Beach, SC
| | 05/30/2007 9:21 PM |
| Looks like I was right about Wrath.
It is +5 damage when an ally is elimitnated. | |
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Commander
3546 Posts
West Virginia
| | 05/31/2007 12:37 AM |
| | Yup.....I was reall hoping that on a 140 point figure it would be +10, but alas. | |
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Gunthar
Commander
2938 Posts
| | 05/31/2007 4:45 AM |
| | It still might be +10 or even +15. The card will likely read Wrath +__. The scarier thing for me is the need for allies to be elimintaed. In the first build, if I'm taking on the dragon, I swing at nothing else. The 'watchers are annoying, but not very deadly. Aramil is probably almost a must with him because your opponant will not want his nerfiness doing his thing. | |
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Autoxdsm
Sergeant
814 Posts
Myrtle Beach, SC
| | 05/31/2007 10:59 AM |
| It still might be +10 or even +15. The card will likely read Wrath +__.
I was thinking this too
Aramil is probably almost a must with him because your opponant will not want his nerfiness doing his thing.
MMmMmMMm Weaken cone + Ray of Enfeeblement
I put the sacred watchers in because I needed some other damage output. That was the most efficent thing I could find for LG. Once I have him in hand I will see what I can do. | |
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Sirohk
Commander
3812 Posts
USA
| | 05/31/2007 3:29 PM |
| Posted By Gunthar on 05/31/2007 4:45 AM
It still might be +10 or even +15. The card will likely read Wrath +__. The scarier thing for me is the need for allies to be elimintaed. In the first build, if I'm taking on the dragon, I swing at nothing else. The 'watchers are annoying, but not very deadly. Aramil is probably almost a must with him because your opponant will not want his nerfiness doing his thing.
At his cost of 140 points, Sacred Watchers and Aramil might be all one can fit in a warband with the LGD.Â
Of course if the SW's get magic armor and weapons per the Dragon Treasure Horde, then they will become even deadlier. Also, 35 hit point Warforged Scouts with 2 attacks each might make nice partners wit the LGD.Â
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| | 06/01/2007 1:03 PM |
| Posted By Autoxdsm on 05/31/2007 10:59 AM Aramil is probably almost a must with him because your opponant will not want his nerfiness doing his thing. MMmMmMMm Weaken cone + Ray of Enfeeblement
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