Zyla
Underboss
1154 Posts
    
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| Or at least most of its stats anyway  Heirophant of the Seven Winds
CG 47
Save 8
Sp 6
AC 16
HP 65
Melee +8/+8 10magic
Humanoid Human
Commander Rating 3
Commander Effect 'Follower that hits 1 enemy with 2+ melee attacks on same turn gets damage +10 to second attack;
Warband Bulding: Elementals and Magical Beasts of any alignment legal
Special Abilities:
Flight
Beastmaster 10
Elemental Master 10
Nature's Loyalty (Magical Beasts get Save +4)
Rend +10
Wolf Form (no info on what this does)
Spells:
spark of life
cure serious wounds
legion's magic fang
I can see the Chimera working with this
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Hero of Skirmish
doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 06/21/2007 1:46 PM |
| | Meh. Underwhelmed. | |
I am not gone. | |
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Wraithborne
Commander
3427 Posts
West Virginia
| | 06/21/2007 1:56 PM |
| Would be good fun to play with some Owlbear Ragers.
I'm really curious as to what Wolf Form entails. | |
Hey Woman, Hey Woman!! Listen here. Since your ol' man ain't got no heart, maybe you'd like to see a real man. I bet you stay up late every night dreamin' you had a real man, don't ya'? I tell you what, bring your pretty little self over to my apartment tonight and I'll show you a real man!
Ghouls: 1 Player Characters: 0 | |
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TheChuck
Warrior
320 Posts
Mississippi, USA
| | 06/21/2007 1:59 PM |
| Will his commander effect stack with Rend 10? If so, the Dire Tiger has yet another decent commander to fight alongside.
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Vindicated Champion of a Shadow Mastiff!! DoD 36/60
Vindicated Against the Giants called shot: Huge White Dragon: Elder White Dragon AtG 59/60
Demonweb Called shot: Aspect of Baphomet | |
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Sirohk
Commander
3714 Posts
USA
| | 06/21/2007 2:17 PM |
| Posted By TheChuck on 06/21/2007 1:59 PM
Will his commander effect stack with Rend 10? If so, the Dire Tiger has yet another decent commander to fight alongside.
It should, they are different effects.Â
Just remember that the Dire Tiger is an Animal and not a Magical Beast to which the Heirophant can use the Nature's Loyalty to boost saves on. Just sad for the Dire Tiger and Dire Bear still at +8 for saves, but still a +11 on MC if you can deal with that.Â
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Sirohk, the Bard of Heartstone
Knight of the Rahshasa's
And Crusader of the Zakya, Ak'chazar, Naztharune, and Naityan Rakshasa's | |
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Sirohk
Commander
3714 Posts
USA
| | 06/21/2007 2:19 PM |
| I'm liking the Heirophant possibly with Displacer Beast Manhunters (Legion's Magic Fang), Chimera, Chraals, or a variety of other critters.Â
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Sirohk, the Bard of Heartstone
Knight of the Rahshasa's
And Crusader of the Zakya, Ak'chazar, Naztharune, and Naityan Rakshasa's | |
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Wraithborne
Commander
3427 Posts
West Virginia
| | 06/21/2007 2:46 PM |
| | Don't forget the Blessed Hunter. | |
Hey Woman, Hey Woman!! Listen here. Since your ol' man ain't got no heart, maybe you'd like to see a real man. I bet you stay up late every night dreamin' you had a real man, don't ya'? I tell you what, bring your pretty little self over to my apartment tonight and I'll show you a real man!
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MAURIZIO
Sergeant
909 Posts
Lima, Perú
| | 06/21/2007 6:37 PM |
| I like the "Elephant of the seven winds", nice adition for a magical beast warband in CG. Now we can have:
Displacer beast
Chimera
Owlbear rager
Blessed Hunter
Chraals
Magma Hurler
Large Water Elemental
Large Ice Elemental
Roper
Grey Render
Arcaddian Hipogriff
Celestial Giant Stag Bettle
Kruthik Hutchling
Loyal Earth elemental
Elemental Wall
Large Earth Elemental
large, small,huge fire elemental
Medium water elemental
And others.
You can still use Eberk to boost a little the save and AC. | |
Againts the Giants Called Shot: Cattie Bri.
Dungeon of Dread Called Shot: Cockatrice.
Todas las batallas en la vida sirven para enseñarnos algo, inclusive aquellas que perdemos. Paulo Coehlo
"DnD teaches you a valuable lesson, always loot the bodies of your dead enemies"
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Zyla
Underboss
1154 Posts
| | 06/21/2007 7:09 PM |
| | I am waiting to see the stats for the Greater Basalisk, as it will also be a Magical Beast | |
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warty_nosed_goblin
Underboss
1384 Posts
| | 06/21/2007 8:00 PM |
| I'll stick with the Warden of the Wood, pending Wolf Form clarification
also, what's with all of the good warband building anymore? | |
Call me: W.N. Gobo!
originally posted by grim:
While he is clearly insane, he does have a point. | |
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vanrulzz
Underboss
2294 Posts
¯\(°_o)/¯
| | 06/21/2007 9:20 PM |
| yayz! This will see a lot of test play, then we can decide how good it is. Personally i give it a Yay! Advertisement warning
(Do the stat challenge) | |
TENTACLES!!!!!
STRANGE TEMPLES!!!!
FREE PIE!!!!
IM CRZY KEWL!!!! | |
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iluvxtina
Underboss
1443 Posts
Spain
| | 06/22/2007 4:04 AM |
| | This guy will be a beast with blessed hunters and chraals.Only his huge cost can ruine it.But I will try it in competitive play for sure | |
LOVE THIS GIRL | |
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Sirohk
Commander
3714 Posts
USA
| | 06/23/2007 7:50 AM |
| Here's a fairly comprehensive list of creatures usable with the Heirophant:  Elementals  Huge Fire Elemental Large Fire Elemental Large Water Elemental Large Earth Elemental Chraal Large Earth Elemental Loyal Earth Elemental Elemental Wall Magma Hurler Large Air Elemental Large Ice Elemental Medium Air Elemental Medium Water Elemental Medium Earth Elemental Medium Fire Elemental Magmin Small Fire Elemental
Magical Beasts
 Fiendish Giant Preying Mantis Manticore Celestial Pegasus Celestial Giant Owl Fiendish Dire Wolverine Griffon Displacer Beast Basilisk Celestial Giant Stag Beetle Fiendish Monstrous Scorpion Winter Wolf Owlbear Ankheg Unicorn Phoera Ethereal Marauder Worg Displacer Serpent Kruthik Hatchling Stirge Celestial Dire Badger Celestial Black Bear Fiendish Tyrannosaurus Behir Roper Gorgon Griffon Cavalry Gray Render Bulette Chimera Blessed Hunter Displacer Beast Manhunter Blessed Hunter Virtuous Charger Arcadian Hippogriff Fiendish Girallon Dragonne Owlbear Rager Guenhwyvar Bat Familiar Purple Worm Huge Fiendish Spider
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Sirohk, the Bard of Heartstone
Knight of the Rahshasa's
And Crusader of the Zakya, Ak'chazar, Naztharune, and Naityan Rakshasa's | |
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Pedro
Commander
3775 Posts
Czech Republic
| | 06/23/2007 12:18 PM |
| | D-Beast Pack Lord is a Magical Beast, too. | |
3 No can has other ceiling cat!! U gotz other Ceiling Cat, I shoot yous wit mah lazer eyes.
2.0 Champion of Necromancers!
Next Icon Called Shot: Baldur's Gate pack - Khalid, Jaheira, Minsc (and BOO!), Imoen, Xan, Sarevok...
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Demonweb Called Shot: Yagnoloth | |
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Wolfgang
Underboss
2328 Posts
Milton, Ontario Canada
| | 06/23/2007 12:42 PM |
| | meh not that impressive | |
Proud member since March 26 2005
Champion of the SIVAK DRACONIAN
Joke champion of the epic sage!
Demonweb called shot - Sivak Draconian
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Bert the Troll
Commander
3754 Posts
Adelaide
| | 06/24/2007 9:14 PM |
| Posted By Pedro on 06/23/2007 12:18 PM
D-Beast Pack Lord is a Magical Beast, too.
But is a commander so no war band building for it. | |
"Mutton yesterday, mutton today, and blimey, if it don't look like mutton again tomorrer." Bert the Troll - The Hobbit
Semi-Secret sig business: Sometimes the road less traveled is less traveled for a reason. ~ Seinfeld
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Pedro
Commander
3775 Posts
Czech Republic
| | 06/25/2007 1:14 AM |
| Posted By Bert the Troll on 06/24/2007 9:14 PM Posted By Pedro on 06/23/2007 12:18 PM
D-Beast Pack Lord is a Magical Beast, too. But is a commander so no war band building for it.
Mea culpa.
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3 No can has other ceiling cat!! U gotz other Ceiling Cat, I shoot yous wit mah lazer eyes.
2.0 Champion of Necromancers!
Next Icon Called Shot: Baldur's Gate pack - Khalid, Jaheira, Minsc (and BOO!), Imoen, Xan, Sarevok...
Against the Giants Called Shot: Phoenix
Demonweb Called Shot: Yagnoloth | |
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Lord_rock
Underboss
1550 Posts
Portland OR
| | 06/25/2007 12:09 PM |
| | Would someone in the know please get off thier bum and post about wolf form!!! drivin me nuts!!! could make or break the piece depending on it and spark of life??? what's that spell do in RPG??? | |
Rock Bottom Pricing:
Arcane Archer 30, Centaur Hero 67, Human Cleric of Bane 25, Gold Champion 34, Death Knight 52, Goblin Blackblade 9, Silentwolf Goblin 7, Orc Raider 10, Dwarf axefighter 9, Healer 9, Thaskor 65, Aspect of Demogorgon 71, Ogre 9, Fire Giant 79, Human Wanderer 7, Drunken Master 18, Barghest 12, Longstider Barbarian 27, Longtooth Barbarian 22, Frost Giant 76, Ravenous Vampire 42, Large Earth Elemental: priceless | |
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Bert the Troll
Commander
3754 Posts
Adelaide
| | 06/26/2007 7:09 PM |
| Wolf Form [] (swift; attack +2, damage +5; cannot cast spells. These effect last until this creature ends them as a swift action.)
(http://www.ddmspoilers.com/nb_stats.html)
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"Mutton yesterday, mutton today, and blimey, if it don't look like mutton again tomorrer." Bert the Troll - The Hobbit
Semi-Secret sig business: Sometimes the road less traveled is less traveled for a reason. ~ Seinfeld
Champion of Epic Lolth, Orcus, & Demogorgon and bring us Asmodeus! | |
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Sirohk
Commander
3714 Posts
USA
| | 06/27/2007 3:01 AM |
| Posted By Bert the Troll on 06/26/2007 7:09 PM Wolf Form [] (swift; attack +2, damage +5; cannot cast spells. These effect last until this creature ends them as a swift action.) ( http://www.ddmspoilers.com/nb_stats.html)
Interesting SA. He becomes a reasonable fighter (+10 / +10 for 15 magic damage) with this if cornered.Â
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Sirohk, the Bard of Heartstone
Knight of the Rahshasa's
And Crusader of the Zakya, Ak'chazar, Naztharune, and Naityan Rakshasa's | |
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Lord_rock
Underboss
1550 Posts
Portland OR
| | 06/28/2007 11:20 AM |
| Finally!!!
Don't know if it was worth the wait though... great SA when cornered... or just when spells are used up... likely to happen...
Spark of life is interesting too... | |
Rock Bottom Pricing:
Arcane Archer 30, Centaur Hero 67, Human Cleric of Bane 25, Gold Champion 34, Death Knight 52, Goblin Blackblade 9, Silentwolf Goblin 7, Orc Raider 10, Dwarf axefighter 9, Healer 9, Thaskor 65, Aspect of Demogorgon 71, Ogre 9, Fire Giant 79, Human Wanderer 7, Drunken Master 18, Barghest 12, Longstider Barbarian 27, Longtooth Barbarian 22, Frost Giant 76, Ravenous Vampire 42, Large Earth Elemental: priceless | |
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iCHor
Skirmisher
6 Posts
| | 06/28/2007 12:01 PM |
| Posted By Sirohk on 06/21/2007 2:17 PM Posted By TheChuck on 06/21/2007 1:59 PM
Will his commander effect stack with Rend 10? If so, the Dire Tiger has yet another decent commander to fight alongside.
It should, they are different effects. Just remember that the Dire Tiger is an Animal and not a Magical Beast to which the Heirophant can use the Nature's Loyalty to boost saves on. Just sad for the Dire Tiger and Dire Bear still at +8 for saves, but still a +11 on MC if you can deal with that. 
That's not exactly true, I pulled both a Dire Tiger and the Heirophant at the PrePreRelease, and it's Nature's Loyalty applies to animals as well as magical beasts. My Dire Tiger was rending for 50pts of damage, magic fanged up, and at +17 to MC (Greyhawk Sergeant CommEff too).
The Heirophant was great for me, since I played a warband that comprised of about half magical beasts and animals, but I knew I wouldn't use it ever again. The synergy it has with some of the pieces in this set is useful though, but it didn't stop me trading it off after the tournament was over...very nice sculpt too btw.
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Hero of Skirmish
doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 06/28/2007 12:03 PM |
| | I like it a lot more now that we have complete stats. | |
I am not gone. | |
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Sirohk
Commander
3714 Posts
USA
| | 06/28/2007 3:05 PM |
| Posted By iCHor on 06/28/2007 12:01 PM Posted By Sirohk on 06/21/2007 2:17 PM Posted By TheChuck on 06/21/2007 1:59 PM
Will his commander effect stack with Rend 10? If so, the Dire Tiger has yet another decent commander to fight alongside.
It should, they are different effects. Just remember that the Dire Tiger is an Animal and not a Magical Beast to which the Heirophant can use the Nature's Loyalty to boost saves on. Just sad for the Dire Tiger and Dire Bear still at +8 for saves, but still a +11 on MC if you can deal with that. That's not exactly true, I pulled both a Dire Tiger and the Heirophant at the PrePreRelease, and it's Nature's Loyalty applies to animals as well as magical beasts. My Dire Tiger was rending for 50pts of damage, magic fanged up, and at +17 to MC (Greyhawk Sergeant CommEff too). The Heirophant was great for me, since I played a warband that comprised of about half magical beasts and animals, but I knew I wouldn't use it ever again. The synergy it has with some of the pieces in this set is useful though, but it didn't stop me trading it off after the tournament was over...very nice sculpt too btw.
Correct now. I posted before we had the full stats on the "Natures Ally" ability and at that time Animals were not included.Â
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Sirohk, the Bard of Heartstone
Knight of the Rahshasa's
And Crusader of the Zakya, Ak'chazar, Naztharune, and Naityan Rakshasa's | |
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
9946 Posts
United States
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