Jasbury
Sneak
70 Posts
    
 | | 08/13/2007 12:11 AM |
| Can anybody provide a list of maps where it is possible from one or both sides to get a fireball off into the opposing start area on the first activation? | |
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XAos
Underboss
2382 Posts
London
| | 08/13/2007 2:24 AM |
| Just how strenuously were you trying to get a first turn "fireball"
First turn fireball warbands used to be something like the Elf Pyromancer & an Inspiring Marshal. With the elf moving 12 squares to reach his firring position.
The likely current variant of that is a pair of Shadow Dragons (breath attacks instead of fireball) they can fly, shadowjump & the fly a bit more. To reach attack position (if the target if worth it)
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Pedro
Commander
3922 Posts
Czech Republic
| | 08/13/2007 6:44 AM |
| | You can use Redspawn Arcaniss on Field of Ruin. | |
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Gabrieeeel
Skirmisher
1 Posts
| | 08/13/2007 7:13 AM |
| I know that in drow utpost, cavern side, you can move 6 square and cast a fire ball on their side.
You've got to take you're side tho. | | | |
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Ryoga
Underboss
1124 Posts
Coquimbo - Chile / Italia
| | 08/13/2007 7:33 AM |
| I use to use Fane of Lolth or Dragon graveyard, this maps has interesting deep lines betewen start areas.  | |
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TheChuck
Warrior
331 Posts
Mississippi, USA
| | 08/13/2007 8:35 AM |
| Dungeon of Blood. Frostfell Rift. Dragon Graveyard. Hellspike if you have Blindsight. There are more I'm sure, but I can't recall them.
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Morg1411
Skirmisher
17 Posts
| | 08/13/2007 10:25 AM |
| | Broken Demongate has a couple of sneaky spots, if you start on the "happy side". Blue Dragon Lair is loaded with first turn AOF potential. Field of Ruin has a couple, as does Market Square....actually. Drow Outpost, as mentioned earlier; Dungeon of Blood, but that requires some sloppy set up on your opponents part. Mithril Mines has some potential. As Ryoga mentioned, Fane of Lolth (my favorite map for Vlaakith). Actually....*most* of the maps have first turn fireball/AOF potential, but a lot of it is conditional. I'd say Blue Dragon Lair is one of your best bets. | |
Morg
Champion of the Deathbringer
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iluvxtina
Underboss
1497 Posts
Spain
| | 08/13/2007 11:18 AM |
| | Broken demongate without any doubt.I have seen a beholder soth warband winning the match at her first round (Your rival receive the first turn abyssal blast and abandoned the game).Two times I have seen this | |
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MAURIZIO
Sergeant
929 Posts
Lima, Perú
| | 08/13/2007 11:39 AM |
| | I think, Keep of the Fallen King, is very usable for it, too. | |
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mege
Sneak
62 Posts
| | 08/13/2007 11:47 AM |
| Tomb of Queen Perigrine (need move 8 to do it to/from one of the corners, others you dont need to move, but it's doable)
Field of Ruin has a few sneaky LOS parts
Market Square (on the extreme edges of the start squares - not likely against a savvy opponent)
Drow Enclave (need to move 6 one way, 8 the other)
Teleport Temple ... need speed 12 though 
Frostfell Rift can make it pretty much anywhere to anywhere in 6 squares.
Kings Road is really easy with 6 speed | | | |
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Ryoga
Underboss
1124 Posts
Coquimbo - Chile / Italia
| | 08/13/2007 4:26 PM |
| Posted By Morg1411 on 08/13/2007 10:25 AM
As Ryoga mentioned, Fane of Lolth (my favorite map for Vlaakith)
Hey! I use to play Lich queen here too.... !!! She do it amazing in this map!
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Pedro
Commander
3922 Posts
Czech Republic
| | 08/14/2007 3:31 AM |
| Posted By Ryoga on 08/13/2007 4:26 PM Posted By Morg1411 on 08/13/2007 10:25 AM
As Ryoga mentioned, Fane of Lolth (my favorite map for Vlaakith) Hey! I use to play Lich queen here too.... !!! She do it amazing in this map!
I have to try this | |
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IANKAVIK
Sneak
162 Posts
COLOMBIA
| | 08/14/2007 11:00 AM |
| I use hellspike prison using demonic gnoll priestess and red spawn arcanix... equal than EPIC version when i use Raistlin épic, Red Wizard and a couple of demonic gnoll priestess.
Tombs of peregrin queen is sueful if you will use CG spellcasters, like elf pyromancer or mephling pyromancer. | | | |
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Autoxdsm
Sergeant
814 Posts
Myrtle Beach, SC
| | 08/15/2007 7:38 AM |
| I think, Keep of the Fallen King, is very usable for it, too.
The lines of sight on this map are really good. I saw a first turn slaying arrow on a werewolf lord. Ouch! | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
5758 Posts
| | 08/15/2007 10:21 AM |
| | How about ice devil or pit fiend with Hobgoblin Marshal? | |
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Pedro
Commander
3922 Posts
Czech Republic
| | 08/15/2007 11:24 AM |
| Posted By greyhaze on 08/15/2007 10:21 AM
How about ice devil or pit fiend with Hobgoblin Marshal?
No no, tha's old
Hobgoblin Marshal + Steel Predator!
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YRM_DM
Sergeant
902 Posts
| | 08/15/2007 6:36 PM |
| | Or Moon Elf Fighter and a bunch of Mephling Pyromancers... win initiative on the right map and drop consecutive fireballs... 1, 2, 3, 4... next turn, do it again. | |
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