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04/12/2008 12:08 PM Alert 
OK so how does this look and if i can improve on something please tell me so here it is

EB - 54
Champion of dol dorm - 42
Champion of dol dorm  - 42
Rastlin - 26
Giant eagle - 18
Giant eagle - 18

200 Point even

the Giant Eagles are the tile grabbers and for the fly by attack
Rastlin is the ranged attacker

so what do ya all think?

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04/12/2008 12:16 PMAlert 
I have seen this warband two days ago and it works really well.I dislike the eagles because they are not very good.I would prefer another dol-dorn (removing the raistlin and adding a lot of farmers).I have seen the dire boar version,where the dol dorns are both mounting dire boars.Pick a pit map for sure

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04/12/2008 12:49 PMAlert 
Pits got massively downgraded, iluvxtina. Check the errata section.


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04/12/2008 12:52 PMAlert 
The core is good. But you have too few activations. Dump one bird (and maybe both) to max out acts.

As a tilegrabber, consider dog=iron defender.

Fodder would be Farmers and Merchant Guards fo additional protection.


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04/13/2008 1:08 PMAlert 
Yeah, needs more activations. Find a way to pack some farmers in there.

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04/13/2008 1:52 PMAlert 
OK so i just got back and iwent 3 - 0 but because they go by points for first/second/third i came in second :( but hey it was alot of fun. NOW for next weeks band........

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04/13/2008 2:18 PMAlert 
and i was using the broken demongate map gets everybody nice and tied up

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04/13/2008 3:37 PMAlert 
so did you find the band played to expectations?

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04/13/2008 5:49 PMAlert 
so did you find the band played to expectations?


YES it did

the dual CODD hit from any where from:

+17 for 20 (base)
+19 for 25 (if enemy is evil)
+21 for 35 i(f EB is adjacent)
+21 for 45 (if using feat of str is used)

The EB is awsome and hits well also +17 for 20

Rastlin is the best sniper i know of

and the giant eagles +13 for 15 on a flyby to a victory square

I might try replacing the two giant eagles for something else but i don't know what

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04/14/2008 9:49 AMAlert 
Hmm, I'll keep this on my radar for qualifying, if I go.

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04/15/2008 5:09 AMAlert 
6 acts? ouch. Giant eagle is ok, but I'd break one of em down into more acts.

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04/15/2008 6:17 AMAlert 
6 acts? ouch. Giant eagle is ok, but I'd break one of em down into more acts.


Never had a problem with low act's before i don't see the use of having more if the pieces are just filler the eagles have 2 flyby attack each and rastlin can hit anything he can see

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04/15/2008 6:18 AMAlert 
Farmers and Merchant Guards.


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04/15/2008 6:22 AMAlert 
Farmers and Merchant Guards.


?

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04/15/2008 6:24 AMAlert 
Posted By Wolfgang on 04/15/2008 6:22 AM
Farmers and Merchant Guards.


?


I didn't quote, sorry.

You wrote that you didn't know what to replace the eagles with. These are the best choices.


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04/15/2008 7:10 AMAlert 
Posted By Wolfgang on 04/15/2008 6:17 AM
6 acts? ouch. Giant eagle is ok, but I'd break one of em down into more acts.


Never had a problem with low act's before i don't see the use of having more if the pieces are just filler the eagles have 2 flyby attack each and rastlin can hit anything he can see
my 2 cts:

Activation control is still an issue though. And filler in 2.0 is a lot better than it used to be in 1.0.

Personally, I'd replace both eagles with an Iron Defender, a Merchant Guard and 3 Kobold Archers. This adds up to 9 activations, 198 points, and all are useful.

I never saw the use for Farmers myself. They are cheap for 3 points, but quite useless.

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04/15/2008 10:17 AMAlert 
Yeah unless the fast attack options provided by the eagles are specifically necessary you might consider breaking them into 4 merch guards and a farmer? especially since you can redirect hits to the guards to counter attack ftw :P the only Issues I could ever see this band having is with ranged threats chewing through too many guards or getting too many free shots sometimes... its all luck though cause these guys are monsters...

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04/15/2008 10:39 AMAlert 
Posted By Dordledum on 04/15/2008 7:10 AM
Posted By Wolfgang on 04/15/2008 6:17 AM
6 acts? ouch. Giant eagle is ok, but I'd break one of em down into more acts.


Never had a problem with low act's before i don't see the use of having more if the pieces are just filler the eagles have 2 flyby attack each and rastlin can hit anything he can see
my 2 cts:

Activation control is still an issue though. And filler in 2.0 is a lot better than it used to be in 1.0.

Personally, I'd replace both eagles with an Iron Defender, a Merchant Guard and 3 Kobold Archers. This adds up to 9 activations, 198 points, and all are useful.

I never saw the use for Farmers myself. They are cheap for 3 points, but quite useless.

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Milton, Ontario Canada

05/04/2008 8:25 AMAlert 
OK guys so i am going to leave in about an hour to go play and here is my new warband

-Eternal blade - 54
-Champion of dol dorm X 2 - 84
-Rastlin majere - 26
-Halfling paladin - 21
-Elf archer X 3 - 15

200 points
8 acts

so what do you guys think? i loved to hear advice from the more experienced skirmish players

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05/04/2008 6:31 PMAlert 
I didn't think you could get the EB and Halfling Paladin in the same band.

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Milton, Ontario Canada

05/05/2008 2:07 AMAlert 
so i went 2 - 2 but still came in third so not bad but i am going to change it up and i NEED your help i am going to keep the EB and the 2 champs of dol dorm but what else could go in there with the last 62 points come on guys help a brother out

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05/05/2008 7:30 AMAlert 
Paladin is blue and Blade is red. Also, Elf Archer is green and blue. Be glad no one noticed:-)

Keep Raistlin and add Merchant Guards and Farmers. If the points wotk out, you can add Kobold Archer for 6, but shoot for max activations first.



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05/05/2008 4:41 PMAlert 
i was thinking of this today at work

- EB - 54
- CODD X 3 - 126
- ELF ARCHERS X 4

200 points and 8 acts

how does that sound guys?

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05/06/2008 5:05 AMAlert 
Posted By Wolfgang on 05/05/2008 4:41 PM
i was thinking of this today at work

- EB - 54
- CODD X 3 - 126
- ELF ARCHERS X 4

200 points and 8 acts

how does that sound guys?


Just like your previous Halfling Pally build it is illegal. Elf archers are wild and Civ, EB is Borderlands

if anything you might wanna put two CoDD on Thundertusks and fill up with farmers and if possible merchant guards.

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05/06/2008 2:14 PMAlert 
I find it really hard not to use a wildmage when in borderlands...

Eb 54
dol dorn x2 84
wildmage 29
Merch guard x2 16
iron defender 8
farmer x3 9

10 acts with the ranged pain of the wild mage, a tile grabber, and 2 bodyguards... Wildmage + warhorse instead of bodyguard/dog = first turn nuke...


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05/10/2008 6:29 PMAlert 
OK so with some help from raland i am going to play this war band tommorow

EB
CODD X 2
Thunderdusk boar X 2
Farmer X 2
Merchant guard

198 points
8 ACTS

so what do you guys think?

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05/10/2008 8:42 PMAlert 
I like it. The boars will be mounted by the CoDDs?

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Milton, Ontario Canada

05/10/2008 8:44 PMAlert 
yes they are wish me luck

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