digital13jw Skirmisher
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 | | 04/30/2008 12:45 PM | Alert | | We have 4 from WA heading to TwinFalls | | | |
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Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
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 Idaho. Yes, we have Gamers in Idaho.
 | | 04/30/2008 12:46 PM | Alert | Posted By Turboman on 04/30/2008 12:36 PM Posted By Teflon Jeff on 04/30/2008 12:23 PM For the record, Twin Falls gets between 14-30 players over the last 3 years for their constructed qualifiers. Not exactly bad turnout.
2/3rds of which were the outsiders right?
Actually, no, they have a healthy weekly scene of ~20 players. Typically, they get 3-4 from UT, last year a few from Cal, and about 12-20 locals, depending on what else is going on locally. (the low, 14 was a bad weekend with another tourney, and a concert, I believe)
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Meljor Skirmisher
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 | | 04/30/2008 12:50 PM | Alert | Last year fo rthe Qualifier's I was a reletivly new player. We had a group come in from out of state and kindly kick most of our butts. I had no issue with that, the issue I had was that one of the guys that ended up in the top 4 was already invited due to his ranking. He had stated that he did not need the plane ticket but stayed in the top 4 anyways. That is my biggest issue and as the 5th ranked player (I could be wrong here) it really got me mad. Then for the XP qualifier I went 8-0 in swiss only to be beaten by another player who had stated he wasn't going at all. These are the things that bug me. I don't care if you qualify at multiple places just don't say you are doing it for the plane ticket then drop when it gets to the final 2 and say, "No thanks, I really don't need the ticket!"
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sienar Sergeant
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 | | 04/30/2008 1:22 PM | Alert | Posted By Meljor on 04/30/2008 12:50 PM Last year fo rthe Qualifier's I was a reletivly new player. We had a group come in from out of state and kindly kick most of our butts. I had no issue with that, the issue I had was that one of the guys that ended up in the top 4 was already invited due to his ranking. He had stated that he did not need the plane ticket but stayed in the top 4 anyways. That is my biggest issue and as the 5th ranked player (I could be wrong here) it really got me mad. Then for the XP qualifier I went 8-0 in swiss only to be beaten by another player who had stated he wasn't going at all. These are the things that bug me. I don't care if you qualify at multiple places just don't say you are doing it for the plane ticket then drop when it gets to the final 2 and say, "No thanks, I really don't need the ticket!"
Slight correction - he was not already qualified, as qualifications based on rank happen after all qualifiers are completed.
I don't know how close he was to the bubble, but he could have been close enough he wanted more games in to be sure.
Something you say concerns me a bit as well. It feels like we are pressuring people to consider dropping because "it is the right thing to do" or whatever. We need to be very careful about that, especially at events. You cannot coerce somebody to do that. That would be a major violation of DCI rules. Enough that if you were deemed to have done that, I suspect you'd be the first DDM player to be on the DCI Banned list.
We can pressure publicly on forums like this, I suppose. But it is somebody's right to continue to play, whether or not you agree with it. Villifying them for doing so doesn't really do you or them justice. | | [http://www.hordelings.com/frontend/profiles/profile.php?user_id=22] | |
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Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
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 Idaho. Yes, we have Gamers in Idaho.
 | | 04/30/2008 1:39 PM | Alert | It is always a players right to keep playing. Maybe they just want the ratings bonus, or other prizes (such as boosters, etc.)
Keep in mind, alos, that your particualr ethical choice of whether or not to drop may not be theirs, and their really isn't a "right" choice here, in the sense of an absolute. Sometimes they'll want to drop, others they won't.
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Duke of Spoils greyhaze Warlord
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 | | 04/30/2008 1:44 PM | Alert | | Imagine an environment where you wouldn't have to decide whether or not you need to drop out of a tournament or be vilified. Where there's no decision like this to make... like if the invitation were passed down. ;) | | Greyhaze's DDM Spoilers Champion of Darkenbeast , Raistlin Majere, Nightmare WDQ25/60, Warduke WD60/60, Anti-Champion of Guns, "Knight of Bugbears", and Joke Champion of Venger. Called Shots: Ghast in Against the Giants, Darkenbeast in Demon Web. | |
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Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
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 Idaho. Yes, we have Gamers in Idaho.
 | | 04/30/2008 1:47 PM | Alert | Imagine a world where no one is already qualified when they enter a tournament, where all of them happen on equal footing.
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sienar Sergeant
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 | | 04/30/2008 1:59 PM | Alert | Posted By greyhaze on 04/30/2008 1:44 PM Imagine an environment where you wouldn't have to decide whether or not you need to drop out of a tournament or be vilified. Where there's no decision like this to make... like if the invitation were passed down. ;) Keep telling yourself that world is perfect and eventually it might become so. :p
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Meljor Skirmisher
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 | | 04/30/2008 2:00 PM | Alert | Slight correction - he was not already qualified, as qualifications based on rank happen after all qualifiers are completed. Actually he was ranked in the top 10 at the time so he was in no jeopardy of not being invited. | | "Here's everything I know about war: somebody wins, somebody loses, and nothing is ever the same again."
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sienar Sergeant
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 | | 04/30/2008 2:11 PM | Alert | Eh, screw it. Have no qualifiers and make the champs a two-part open. Have a tournament the first day for those with no DCI rankings. They play it out and get ordered by final standings. They then get placed at the bottom of the pile for the main draw below all with prior rankings. Seed everybody by DCI rank (plus the new pile at the bottom) and have a straight-up single-elimination bracket. Now *that* would be fair to everybody.
You want to avoid Cleveland and Lynch early? Get a higher ranking, chum. We could even come up with silly names for the semi-finals and quarter finals. Say, 16 Candles and Fatal Four.
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Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
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 Idaho. Yes, we have Gamers in Idaho.
 | | 04/30/2008 2:25 PM | Alert | I could get behind that...
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Turboman Warrior
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 | | 04/30/2008 2:41 PM | Alert | | That wouldn't be that bad although it'd make those that have to pay a lot of money to go to GenCon question whether or not to go if they are only interested in D&D Minis. Lose the first day the rest of the weekend would be shot. Of course most gamers are interested in a lot of games and could find something to do. | | | |
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Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
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 Idaho. Yes, we have Gamers in Idaho.
 | | 04/30/2008 2:54 PM | Alert | Plus, they have league and the community draft as well. I bet if they did that as well, they'd have Ipod tourneys and other side stuff as well.
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sienar Sergeant
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 | | 04/30/2008 2:55 PM | Alert | Posted By Meljor on 04/30/2008 2:00 PM Slight correction - he was not already qualified, as qualifications based on rank happen after all qualifiers are completed. Actually he was ranked in the top 10 at the time so he was in no jeopardy of not being invited. Fair enough. But I still have no desire to see a policy that would bar somebody from attempting to get said ticket. (Yes, I know Greyhaze's proposal does not bar that.)
Said person chose not to be generous - it is his perogative. You could say I don't *need* the ticket to go, but it sure helps me to get it. Would it be bad form for me to play it out, knowing my opponent needed the ticket to be able to go, or is it acceptable that my desire to save the money be enough?
I have qualified nearly every way possible (the only exception would be previous champion). I have ground it at Gen Con, I have qualified through a qualifier, and I have qualified through ranking. Just because my ranking is high, does not mean I don't want to play at the qualifiers - the competition is great and the chance for product and a plane ticket alluring. I can settle back on my ranking if need be, but it feels good to have the immediate "earning" of an invite over the long-term "earning" of an invite. | | [http://www.hordelings.com/frontend/profiles/profile.php?user_id=22] | |
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digital13jw Skirmisher
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 | | 04/30/2008 3:06 PM | Alert | Or just make it so once you qualified you can't play in any more qualifiers 1st or 2ed you get one shot a ticket thats it, no more. then no one could "Steal" a spot and there would be no spots to passdown. | | | |
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sienar Sergeant
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 | | 04/30/2008 3:13 PM | Alert | Posted By digital13jw on 04/30/2008 3:06 PM Or just make it so once you qualified you can't play in any more qualifiers 1st or 2ed you get one shot a ticket thats it, no more. then no one could "Steal" a spot and there would be no spots to passdown.
Yeah, that would be great. "Congrats, you did well, but unfortunately you lost your last match. You now no longer may try and win a plane ticket. The person you just beat can still try again, but not you. Because you suck and lost in the finals instead of the semi-finals. Oh, and any travel arrangements you made for other qualifiers? Hope you can cancel. But the good news is you might be able to save that money so you can pay your way to Gen Con and you have a spot there. See you at Gen Con!" | | [http://www.hordelings.com/frontend/profiles/profile.php?user_id=22] | |
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Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
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 Idaho. Yes, we have Gamers in Idaho.
 | | 04/30/2008 3:15 PM | Alert | Posted By digital13jw on 04/30/2008 3:06 PM Or just make it so once you qualified you can't play in any more qualifiers 1st or 2ed you get one shot a ticket thats it, no more. then no one could "Steal" a spot and there would be no spots to passdown.
Also interesting.
The PTQ circuit only has one qualifier, and he gets the ticket. Everyone else, try again.
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sienar Sergeant
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 | | 04/30/2008 3:20 PM | Alert | Posted By Teflon Jeff on 04/30/2008 3:15 PM Posted By digital13jw on 04/30/2008 3:06 PM Or just make it so once you qualified you can't play in any more qualifiers 1st or 2ed you get one shot a ticket thats it, no more. then no one could "Steal" a spot and there would be no spots to passdown.
Also interesting. The PTQ circuit only has one qualifier, and he gets the ticket. Everyone else, try again. I'd rather there be winner qualifies and everyone else try again than top two qualifies, winner gets a plane ticket and second place earns the right to not play any more.
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 Vrecknidj Warlord
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 | | 04/30/2008 3:35 PM | Alert | Posted By sienar on 04/30/2008 2:11 PM We could even come up with silly names for the semi-finals and quarter finals. Say, 16 Candles and Fatal Four. Sounds like a challenge.
Fatal Four is pretty good though, it will be hard to top that one.
Evil eight? Egregious eight?
Maybe we're better off with a word that starts with an "A" since "eight" rhymes with "ate," you know, just for the weirdness.
Sweet sixteen is already taken. Sour sixteen is lame. Silly sixteen is, well, silly. I don't like 16 Candles.

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Turboman Warrior
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 | | 04/30/2008 3:39 PM | Alert | Posted By sienar on 04/30/2008 3:13 PM Posted By digital13jw on 04/30/2008 3:06 PM Or just make it so once you qualified you can't play in any more qualifiers 1st or 2ed you get one shot a ticket thats it, no more. then no one could "Steal" a spot and there would be no spots to passdown.
Yeah, that would be great. "Congrats, you did well, but unfortunately you lost your last match. You now no longer may try and win a plane ticket. The person you just beat can still try again, but not you. Because you suck and lost in the finals instead of the semi-finals. Oh, and any travel arrangements you made for other qualifiers? Hope you can cancel. But the good news is you might be able to save that money so you can pay your way to Gen Con and you have a spot there. See you at Gen Con!" When you think about it the money saved not going to 5 qualifiers is probably more than paying for the ticket to GenCon. THey really should just drop the travel voucher and make it a money purse enough to get to GenCon.
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sienar Sergeant
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 | | 04/30/2008 3:55 PM | Alert | Posted By Turboman on 04/30/2008 3:39 PM Posted By sienar on 04/30/2008 3:13 PM Posted By digital13jw on 04/30/2008 3:06 PM Or just make it so once you qualified you can't play in any more qualifiers 1st or 2ed you get one shot a ticket thats it, no more. then no one could "Steal" a spot and there would be no spots to passdown.
Yeah, that would be great. "Congrats, you did well, but unfortunately you lost your last match. You now no longer may try and win a plane ticket. The person you just beat can still try again, but not you. Because you suck and lost in the finals instead of the semi-finals. Oh, and any travel arrangements you made for other qualifiers? Hope you can cancel. But the good news is you might be able to save that money so you can pay your way to Gen Con and you have a spot there. See you at Gen Con!" When you think about it the money saved not going to 5 qualifiers is probably more than paying for the ticket to GenCon. THey really should just drop the travel voucher and make it a money purse enough to get to GenCon. Presuming everything is refundable, sure. Although, you lose out the ability to play those high-competition practice games you anticipated being able to play in.
What exactly is a money purse instead of travel voucher? The travel voucher is plane, train, or automobile to get you to Gen Con? I'm thinking a money purse is not in their best interest, as the person no longer has to go to Gen Con to take advantage of the prize. Yes, it's there to reward somebody and help them to get to Gen Con or XP, but don't fool yourself, it's not 100% altruistic - the travel voucher method gets people to the event, where cash does not guarantee that.
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sienar Sergeant
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 | | 04/30/2008 3:56 PM | Alert | Posted By Vrecknidj on 04/30/2008 3:35 PM Posted By sienar on 04/30/2008 2:11 PM Sweet sixteen is already taken. Sour sixteen is lame. Silly sixteen is, well, silly. I don't like 16 Candles.  Dave Me, either, but I couldn't come up with anything witty for that one on the fly. | | [http://www.hordelings.com/frontend/profiles/profile.php?user_id=22] | |
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 Bert the Troll Commander
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 | | 04/30/2008 4:04 PM | Alert | | Suicide sixteen ... naw ... psycho sixteen, sexy back sixteen, but I think combine posts and make it the stocks sixteen | | "Mutton yesterday, mutton today, and blimey, if it don't look like mutton again tomorrer." Bert the Troll - The Hobbit Semi-Secret sig business: Sometimes the road less traveled is less traveled for a reason. ~ Seinfeld Champion of Epic Lolth, Orcus, & Demogorgon and bring us Asmodeus! | |
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Turboman Warrior
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 | | 04/30/2008 4:29 PM | Alert | Posted By sienar on 04/30/2008 3:55 PM
What exactly is a money purse instead of travel voucher? The travel voucher is plane, train, or automobile to get you to Gen Con? I'm thinking a money purse is not in their best interest, as the person no longer has to go to Gen Con to take advantage of the prize. Yes, it's there to reward somebody and help them to get to Gen Con or XP, but don't fool yourself, it's not 100% altruistic - the travel voucher method gets people to the event, where cash does not guarantee that.
Don't forget that there are a lot of people that don't even need a plane ticket or otherwise because they live close enough that it is easier to drive. A money prize would benefit them more.Â
My thoughts are if you win a qualifier you get the money and can no longer play in qualifiers. If you come in second at different qualifiers that should be enough for you to get to GenCon and that would make you no longer able to play in any qualifiers. Hell, if someone doesn't want to go to GenCon to attempt to get the big prize so be it.Â
I also think the invites should trickle down if a qualifed player isn't going.
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sienar Sergeant
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 | | 04/30/2008 4:55 PM | Alert | Posted By Turboman on 04/30/2008 4:29 PM Posted By sienar on 04/30/2008 3:55 PM
What exactly is a money purse instead of travel voucher? The travel voucher is plane, train, or automobile to get you to Gen Con? I'm thinking a money purse is not in their best interest, as the person no longer has to go to Gen Con to take advantage of the prize. Yes, it's there to reward somebody and help them to get to Gen Con or XP, but don't fool yourself, it's not 100% altruistic - the travel voucher method gets people to the event, where cash does not guarantee that.
Don't forget that there are a lot of people that don't even need a plane ticket or otherwise because they live close enough that it is easier to drive. A money prize would benefit them more.
My thoughts are if you win a qualifier you get the money and can no longer play in qualifiers. If you come in second at different qualifiers that should be enough for you to get to GenCon and that would make you no longer able to play in any qualifiers. Hell, if someone doesn't want to go to GenCon to attempt to get the big prize so be it.
I also think the invites should trickle down if a qualifed player isn't going.
The travel voucher does cover gas expenses if that is the preferred method of travel.
As I've said before, should the invite trickle down to the person at the first or second qualifier that the double qualified person played at? The trickle down method appears to be an attempt at fairness, yet still is an unfair system (and I would think would cause more dissatisfaction with those who lottery out rather than know they are out). | | [http://www.hordelings.com/frontend/profiles/profile.php?user_id=22] | |
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Turboman Warrior
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 | | 04/30/2008 5:12 PM | Alert | | How is trickling down unfair? | | | |
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Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
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 Idaho. Yes, we have Gamers in Idaho.
 | | 04/30/2008 5:17 PM | Alert | Posted By Turboman on 04/30/2008 5:12 PM How is trickling down unfair?
Who gets the trickle down slot, the person in 3rd at the first qualifier, or the person in third at the second qualifier? And why is one more deserving than the other?
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Turboman Warrior
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 | | 04/30/2008 5:49 PM | Alert | | Well then you'd have to go with higher ranking or something as flawed as it is. Still better than groups colluding to get their buddies in. | | | |
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sienar Sergeant
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 | | 04/30/2008 6:04 PM | Alert | Posted By Turboman on 04/30/2008 5:49 PM Well then you'd have to go with higher ranking or something as flawed as it is. Still better than groups colluding to get their buddies in.
You may want to make sure your information is fully accurate before making statements like this one.
Please go look at the top 2 standings so far and come back here and tell me how many invites have been "stolen" so far. Come back after the season and give me that number again. Perhaps this issue is not as big a deal as people think it is. People are already dropping, and not just in collusion. | | [http://www.hordelings.com/frontend/profiles/profile.php?user_id=22] | |
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Turboman Warrior
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 | | 04/30/2008 6:20 PM | Alert | | Spoken like a true colluder. | | | |
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sienar Sergeant
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 | | 04/30/2008 6:38 PM | Alert | Posted By Turboman on 04/30/2008 6:20 PM Spoken like a true colluder.
Yep. I'm in yur base, taking ur invites, givin em away to only my fellow colluders. | | [http://www.hordelings.com/frontend/profiles/profile.php?user_id=22] | |
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Kevizoid Warrior
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 | | 04/30/2008 6:44 PM | Alert | | All your invites are belong to us. | | SoCal Colluder | |
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 Bert the Troll Commander
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Kevizoid Warrior
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 | | 04/30/2008 7:38 PM | Alert | | The last 3 were tongue in cheek :P | | SoCal Colluder | |
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 Bert the Troll Commander
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 | | 04/30/2008 7:43 PM | Alert | Posted By Kevizoid on 04/30/2008 7:38 PM The last 3 were tongue in cheek :P
Good :)
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Duke of Spoils greyhaze Warlord
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 | | 04/30/2008 8:38 PM | Alert | | I say we all just show up and roll a d20, highest rolls have a dice off until all but one are ELIMINATED, that person then gets to design a mini. :) | | Greyhaze's DDM Spoilers Champion of Darkenbeast , Raistlin Majere, Nightmare WDQ25/60, Warduke WD60/60, Anti-Champion of Guns, "Knight of Bugbears", and Joke Champion of Venger. Called Shots: Ghast in Against the Giants, Darkenbeast in Demon Web. | |
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Sirohk Commander
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 | | 05/01/2008 3:16 AM | Alert | Posted By greyhaze on 04/30/2008 8:38 PM I say we all just show up and roll a d20, highest rolls have a dice off until all but one are ELIMINATED, that person then gets to design a mini. :) Is'nt that what we do now when we show up for GenCon, except that we move little plastic figures around a map with terrain on it in between rolling that d20. [:o]

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Brig Skirmisher
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 | | 05/01/2008 5:02 AM | Alert | Posted By Turboman on 04/30/2008 3:39 PM Posted By sienar on 04/30/2008 3:13 PM When you think about it the money saved not going to 5 qualifiers is probably more than paying for the ticket to GenCon.
This is not entirely true. If you come from an where a lot of players travel together the cost for going to multiple qualifiers is not that high. I plan on attending a total of 4 qualifiers this season (baring winning a plane ticket prior) and it will cost me around $150 total and that includes the entry cost. Splitting gas costs and motel room costs goes along way when you can get your number of "invaders" up.
The biggest issue is that people are arguing making it about morality when it has absolutely nothing to do with it. Honestly those arguing that those that finished second should no longer play are closer to the issue of morality since they are trying to coerce people not to play when they have every right within the rules to play.
First so far how many multiple qualifiers are there so far? I looked through and I found zero. So it doesn't look like there is an issue yet. Now let us say it does happen then what that does is add one more top 100 spot that does qualify. So what it is actually doing is openning up another qualifier spot so more people will qualify. You 35+ qualifiers with top 2 in and top 100 Standard invites. The players who finish in the top 2 of qualifiers will most likely be in top 100 taking 70+ spots leaving less than 30 slots. So every slot "stolen" will allow one more person to qualify that may not have already qualify. | | | |
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Duke of Spoils greyhaze Warlord
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 | | 05/01/2008 6:23 AM | Alert | Posted By Sirohk on 05/01/2008 3:16 AM Posted By greyhaze on 04/30/2008 8:38 PM I say we all just show up and roll a d20, highest rolls have a dice off until all but one are ELIMINATED, that person then gets to design a mini. :) Is'nt that what we do now when we show up for GenCon, except that we move little plastic figures around a map with terrain on it in between rolling that d20. [:o] 
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tundrin Sergeant
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 | | 05/01/2008 6:35 AM | Alert | Posted By Turboman on 04/30/2008 2:41 PM That wouldn't be that bad although it'd make those that have to pay a lot of money to go to GenCon question whether or not to go if they are only interested in D&D Minis. Lose the first day the rest of the weekend would be shot. Of course most gamers are interested in a lot of games and could find something to do. Dont worry about having enough DnD minis stuff to do..... Last year - Thursday was the girnder - but there was also another event (heros - no duplicates or mercenary - no rares) There was league the whole time (buy 2 boosters, then build like sealed, after every match you get a free mini to add to your mix, cna change warband / map for each match, games are all pick up with anyone around.)
Friday was first round of champs - ALL day (but had 1 league match at night)
Saturday I played a little delve, then Heroes event, then straight to Epic event, in between matches I signed up for the online community draft) so finished epic and walked over to a pod for that, played that until about midnight. So i played 11 matches that day.
At the same time there was a WotC talk given about minis followed by "Ian's Draft" with some great prizes.
Sunday I did some more delve, watched some of the top 8 matches, walked the convention floor, bought and sold minis, got a handful of promos, etc. There was also the first Limited qualifier for XP, that took most of the day as well but I didnt play.
There was plenty of minis stuff to do!
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