Hello all,

This here is a call to fix the pit rules once again. We have gone from instant death to a laughable dazed. While we as a community appreciate WOTC's prompt responses to the community's concerns, we understand that the best decision regarding pits might not have been made, by allowing the mere Dazing of the pitted creatures, which makes all of the creatures with abilitites to pit, aka "Pitters," overcosted, since "instant death" was a possible outcome when such Pitters were being developed by R&D.

In real life, if you are knocked into a pit, what happens? Will you always crawl out and shake it off? No. Can you catch yourself and avoid plummeting to the bottom? Possibly. As such the game rules should reflect this as much as possible.

I think the rules dealing with being knoced into the pit are fine; a follow up attack to confirm knocking them in; my only gripe is the effect of being pitted.

So lets propose some alternatives that can be addressed in a future VP article, the simpler the better.

In all the following alternatives, the pitted creature will be placed in the nearest legal space adjacent to the pit and:

(a) will take 20 Damage. (falling causes injury)

(b) will take 20 Damage, however if such creature has Flying, Phasing, or Insubstantial, then it takes 10 Damage instead. (Falling causes injury, but not as much to creatures who can catch themselves).

(c) such creature has Helpless (until end of creatures next turn). (this simulates the pitted creature, hanging by a thread, climbing out of the pit, and totally vulnerable while doing so, especially to melee attacks.

(d) same as (c), but creatures with Flying, Phasing, Insubstantial, may make a saving throw at the begining of their turn to remove the Helpless condition. (This simulates the fact that such creatures would be able to get out of the pit much faster then creatures without movement enhancing attributes.

ALTERNTIVELY:

The pitted creature is removed from the battlemap with the condition "Pitted," Save Ends. A Pitted creature remains off the battlemap until it looses such condtion, at which time the creature is placed in any legal adjacent square next to any pit in which the creature fell into. If the creature is still Pitted when the game ends, the opposing player scores victory points for all enemy Pitted creatures.

Comments, other suggestions?