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Lord_rock
Underboss
2045 Posts
    
Portland OR
 | | 06/03/2008 7:47 AM |
| Someone else requested it.
What Unhallowed pieces might be a little too good... and by good I mean powerful not good as in nice guy... you know Strahd isn't a good guy and he's not good either... I mean he's a vampire so he's bad... but his stats aren't that bad... oh dear... you know what I mean...
Anyway...
the two that spring to mind as unbalancing are the Wild Elf Warsinger who will simply ensure that borderlands chargers will continue to see play (and the fact that EB is broken and Wulfgar is near broken but definately broken with the EB) and the new Bat Familiar who really really really opens things up for arcane range; I'd be for blindsight 12... keep the first turn nukes from happening and allow a move and blast at awesome range for most pieces... the thing is 6pts remember... it shouldn't break the game.
So,
Wild Elf Warsinger
Bat Familiar
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anything else?
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Rock Bottom Pricing:
Arcane Archer 30, Centaur Hero 67, Human Cleric of Bane 25, Gold Champion 34, Death Knight 52, Goblin Blackblade 9, Silentwolf Goblin 7, Orc Raider 10, Dwarf axefighter 9, Healer 9, Thaskor 65, Aspect of Demogorgon 71, Ogre 9, Fire Giant 79, Human Wanderer 7, Drunken Master 18, Barghest 12, Longstider Barbarian 27, Longtooth Barbarian 22, Frost Giant 76, Ravenous Vampire 42, Large Earth Elemental: priceless | |
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XAos
Underboss
2413 Posts
London
| | 06/03/2008 8:14 AM |
| The bat & elf warsinger are strong, but too easily killed to be broken.
The stonegiant runecarver, is also well above par. But at 91pts I doubt thats broken either.
The only "Broken" ability, I have so far seen is the Ultraloth's "Quick cast". Which has all the arguments seen in the past against an "Immediate" attack which could cause an enemy figure to abort the remainder of it's current turn. | | | |
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Lord_rock
Underboss
2045 Posts
Portland OR
| | 06/03/2008 8:17 AM |
| There is a lively discussion over on Hordelings about the Inspired Shock Trooper and thier ability to deal a ton o dmg...
Move the auto dmg down to an ability so it isn't EB buffable and make it replace your att action and I think it's golden and balanced... anyone else? (notice how it's only broken due to the EB's champ power... hmmm I think we've said that before... so it's the EB that's broken... hmmm... why hasn't anyone thought of that before?) | |
Rock Bottom Pricing:
Arcane Archer 30, Centaur Hero 67, Human Cleric of Bane 25, Gold Champion 34, Death Knight 52, Goblin Blackblade 9, Silentwolf Goblin 7, Orc Raider 10, Dwarf axefighter 9, Healer 9, Thaskor 65, Aspect of Demogorgon 71, Ogre 9, Fire Giant 79, Human Wanderer 7, Drunken Master 18, Barghest 12, Longstider Barbarian 27, Longtooth Barbarian 22, Frost Giant 76, Ravenous Vampire 42, Large Earth Elemental: priceless | |
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iluvxtina
Underboss
1501 Posts
Spain
| | 06/03/2008 9:44 AM |
| For me,this is unhallowed top ten:
1-Wild elf warsinger.
2-Large brass dragon.
3-Lyrandar skyfire captain.
4-Werewolf lord.
6-Tsucora quori.
7-Virtuous charger.
8-Bat familiar.
9-Inspired shock trooper.
10-Dark talon champion.
No more. | |
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bshugg
Underboss
1833 Posts
| | 06/03/2008 10:11 AM |
| Posted By iluvxtina on 06/03/2008 9:44 AM
For me,this is unhallowed top ten:
1-Wild elf warsinger.
2-Large brass dragon.
3-Lyrandar skyfire captain.
4-Werewolf lord.
6-Tsucora quori.
7-Virtuous charger.
8-Bat familiar.
9-Inspired shock trooper.
10-Dark talon champion.
No more.
My list is similar with a few exceptions. The Tsucora seems kind of bad to me while the Caller in Darkness and Vampire wolf both look to be interesting figs to build around. The wolf can get boosted to 40 damage by an EB, has good defenses, and can shift-charge away from a combat to kill something small and regain 20 hp when its wounded.    Also the werewolf champ may not be as good as I hope him to be since the sculpt is so cool. | |
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10493 Posts
United States
| | 06/03/2008 11:39 AM |
| Two Skyfire Captains with an Eternal Blade is nasty.
The Bat Familiar, I think, will get toned down (at least, I hope so).
The Wild Elf Warsinger is very strong, but, it will have its greatest effect by giving titans (or quasi-titans, like Wulfgar) another +10, rather than giving +10 to a whole pile of lower-cost hitters, so it's manageable.
The Virtuous Charger looks good but is by no means broken. (It can only use a basic attack on a charge, if they don't fix it, it's not nearly as good as it could be.)
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iluvxtina
Underboss
1501 Posts
Spain
| | 06/03/2008 1:33 PM |
| | To Bshugg: Your list is the same than mine then,because I missed the number five in my list wich was the caller in darkness.Sorry for that miss.About the dire wolf I have not match it because I think it was more powerful in 1.0.Leaving apart the elf warsinger,the most powerful creature in the set is the brass dragon and the second,the lyrandar.I espect to see them a lot soon | |
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Sirohk
Commander
3938 Posts
USA
| | 06/03/2008 2:49 PM |
| Posted By iluvxtina on 06/03/2008 9:44 AM
For me,this is unhallowed top ten:
1-Wild elf warsinger.
2-Large brass dragon.
3-Lyrandar skyfire captain.
4-Werewolf lord.
6-Tsucora quori.
7-Virtuous charger.
8-Bat familiar.
9-Inspired shock trooper.
10-Dark talon champion.
No more.
What, no Thrall of Blackrazor? It makes my top 10 pieces.Â
Sirohk's Top UH pieces (no particular order) (subject to change when real stats come out):
1) Thraal
2) Bat
3) Wild Elf Warsinger
4) Lyrandar
5) CWW
6) Wizard of Turnish
7) Caller in the Darkness
8) Cleric of Sune
9) Vampire Dire Wolf
10) Air Mephit
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Warlord
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The Fortress of Solitude
| | 06/03/2008 8:09 PM |
| | Wizard of Turmish may not be game-breaking, but it certainly looks like a playable piece at the moment. | |
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Pedro
Commander
3926 Posts
Czech Republic
| | 06/04/2008 11:45 AM |
| No part order after number 3-4.
1) Bat
2) Wild Elf Warsinger
3) Large Brass Dragon
4) Caller in the Darkness
5) CWW
6) Blood Golem of Hextor
7) Stormrage Shambler
8) Cleric of Sune
9) Vampire Dire Wolf
10) Tsucora Quori
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