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06/26/2008 6:06 AM  

We hit 16 players exactly!  Here's a list of bands.  Let me know quickly on here if you don't see yours listed.   I will give 48 hours (till Saturday) to give any one who submitted and are not listed a chance to resubmit.   Round 1 pairings will go up on Sat evening or Sunday.   We will be playing at least 5 rounds of swiss with a cut of top 2 or top 4 depending on how many prizes we have.

Player 1. Borderlands
Astral Stalker 45
Wizard of Turmish 33
Babau 29
Wild Mage 29
Drider 26
Drider 26
Kobold Archer 6
Kobold Archer 6

Player 2. Underdark
Large Shadow Dragon 48
Astral Stalker 45
Babau 29
Drider 26
Drider 26
Deathjump Spider 11
Kuo-Toa Hunter 9
Darkmantle 6

Player 3. Underdark
Large Shadow Dragon 48/champ 2
Astral Stalker 45
Digester 39
Drider 26
Rot Scarab Swarm 19
Deathjumpspider 11
Darkmante 6
Bat Familiar 6

Player 4. Wilds
Lamia 93
Thrall 43
Rotscarab Swarm 19
Snaketoungue Cultist 17
Deathjump Spider 11
Kobold Archer 6
Kobold Archer 6

Player 5. Underdark
 
Large Shadow Dragon 32
Drider 26
Drider 26
Bone Naga 62
Rot Scarab Swarm 19
Rot Scarab Swarm 19

Player 6. Wilds

White Dragon 32
Ice Archon 66
Ice Mephit 13
Wild Mage 29
Deathjump Spider 11
Deathjump Spider 11
Rot Scarab Swarm 19
Rot Scarab Swarm 19


Player 7. Borderlands
Dwarf Warlord 58
Astral Stalker 45
Dwarf Battlerager 17
Dwarf Battlerager 17
Dwarf Battlerager 17
Wild Mage 29
Kobold Archer 6
Kobold Archer 6

Player 8. Underdark
Skeletal Tomb Guardian 69
Large Shadow Dragon 48
Spectral Panther 32
Babau 29
Kuo-Toa Hunter 9
Boneshard Skeleton 7
Darkmantle 6

Player 9. Wilds
Vrock 62
Thrall 43
Digester 39
Wild Mage 29
Bat 6
Kobold 6
Kobold 6
Darkmantle 6

Player 10. Borderlands

Dwarf Warlord 58
Wild Mage 29
Drider 26
Drider 26
Dwarf Battlerager 17
Dwarf Battlerager 17
Ice Mephit 13
Kobold Archer 6
Kobold Archer 6


Player 11. Underdark
Large Shadow Dragon 32
Astral Stalker 45
Nightmare 44
Umber Hulk Delver 36
Flame Snake 8
Boneshard Skeleton 7
Darkmantle 6
Bat Familiar

Player 12. Borderlands
Astral Stalker 45
Wizard of Turmish 33
Wild Mage 29
Drider 26
Drider 26
Giant Eagle 18
Kobold Archer 6
Kobold Archer 6
Bat Familiar 6

Player 13. Wilds
Thrall of Blackrazor 43
Greater Barghest 35
Wild Mage 29
Cormyrian War Wizard 29
Snaketongue Cultist 17
Ice Mephit 13
Death Jump Spider 11
Death Jump Spider 11
Darkmantle 6
Bat Familiar 6

Player 14.  Underdark
Ice Archon 66 
Astral Stalker 45
Deathjump Spider 11 
Deathjump Spider 11 
Boneshard Skeleton 7 
Darkmantle 6 
Drider 26 
Drider 26 

Player 15. Wilds
Tsucora Quori 67
Kalashtar Bodyguard 35
Thrall of Blackrazor 43
Wild Mage 29
Kobold Archer 6
Kobold Archer 6
Dark Talon Champion 7
Bat Familiar 6

 

Player 16. Wilds
Hierophant of the 7 winds
Spectral Panther 32
White Dragon  32
Wild Mage 29
Cormyrean War Wizard 29
Deathjump Spider 11
Kobold Archer 6
Kobold Archer 6
Bat Familiar 6


I have contracted a local artist to paint up an Oni for one prize and I will be doing a Death Knight (DoD) for the other.   If anyone one is interested in doing a pair of uncommons for 3rd and 4th I would be happy to add them.   I expect both rares to be finished in the next week or two.


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06/26/2008 7:08 AM  
Just a reminder to the new guys.

Don't reveal which band is yours!

That said, mine is there.  Also listed are some other bands I dreamed up but didn't submit.  Looks like quite a few of us stumbled onto the same ideas.

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Germany

06/26/2008 7:34 AM  
Hmm... ? No
-Angel of Venegance
-Count Strahd (thought there would be at least one warband --> immune necrotic and poison would have been nice against all those Stalkers,LShDs and Driders)
-Rakshasa Baron (thought there would be at least one warband --> featurings Thrall, CWW and WoT)
-Brass Golem
-Cerebrilith
-Nessian Warhound

I should better not ask...

Warband 12 seems to be Boarderland and not Underdark
Warband 16 is illegal, Hot7W is GOOD and Ice Archon is EVIL

regards

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06/26/2008 7:50 AM  
For my own amusement, I give you The Unloved:

Angel of Valor                      B,C  30    G
Goblin Picador                      B,C   6
Phalanx Soldier                     B,C  12
Psuedodragon                        B,C  12

Cerebrilith                         B,U  65    E
Chillborn Zombie                    B,U  18    E
Intellect Devourer                  B,U  32    E
Nessian Warhound                    B,U  62    E
Vampire Dire Wolf                   B,U  48    E

Angel of Vengence                   C    74    G
Dwarf Battlemaster                  C    31    G    3
Halfling Paladin                    C    21    G
Young Silver Dragon                 C    62    G    2
Count Strahd von Zarovich, Vampire  C    93    E    3
Rakshasa Baron                      C    75    E    3

Blood of Vol Fanatic                C,U  30    E
Animated Statue                     C,U  10
Brass Golem                         C,U  67
Grick                               C,U  14
Lifeleech Otyugh                    C,U  45
Vampire Hunter                      C,U  18
 
Elf Archer                          C,W   5    G
Strahd Zombie                       C,W  20
Virtuous Charger                    C,W  40

Drow Wand Mage                      U    50        2
Skeletal Courser                    U    28

Gelly Cube                          U,W  28
Kuo-Toa Hunter                      U,W   9


And, of course, we can't forget The Loved:

9x Wild Mage                    B,W    29
8x Kobold Archer                B,W    6
8x Kobold Archer                B,W    6

7x Astral Stalker               B,U    45
7x Bat Familiar                 All    6
7x Darkmantle                   U,W    6
7x Deathjump Spider             U,W    11

7x Drider                       B,U    26
6x Drider                       B,U    26
5x Large Shadow Dragon          U      48         2
4x Rot Scarab Swarm             U,W    19
4x Thrall of Blackrazor         C,W    43    E
3x Babau                        B,U    29    E
3x Boneshard Skellie            B,U    7
3x Deathjump Spider             U,W    11
3x Ice Archon                   U,W    66    E
3x Ice Mephit                   B,W    13
2x Cormyrean War Wizard         C,W    29
2x Digester                     U,W    39
2x Dwarf Warlord                B      58    G    3
2x Dwarf Battlerager            B,C    17
2x Dwarf Battlerager (Repaint)  B,C    17
2x Kuo-Toa Hunter               U,W    9
2x Rot Scarab Swarm             U,W    19
2x Snaketongue Cultist          W      17         1
2x Wizard of Turmish            B,C    33
1x Bone Naga                    B,U    62    E
1x Dark Talon Champion          B,W    7
1x Dwarf Battlerager            B,C    17
1x Flame Snake                  U,W    8
1x Giant Eagle                  B,W    18
1x Greater Barghest             B,W    35    E
1x Heirophant of the 7 winds    W      47    G    2
1x Kalashtar Body Guard         C      35
1x Lamia                        U,W    98    E
1x Large White Dragon           W      32         1
1x Nightmare                    C,U    44
1x Skeleton Tomb Guardian       U      69
1x Spectral Panther             U,W    32
1x Tsucora Quori                U,W    67    E
1x Umberhulk Delver             U,W    36
1x Vrock                        B,W    62    E

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06/26/2008 8:00 AM  
A lot of this isn't too surprising. Wild Mage on top. Astral Stalker, Drider, Large Shadow Dragon all pretty standard.

Not much Civ love, also not too surprising really.

I thought there might be a few more CWWs, although I can't say I'm too shocked about most of The Unloved. Halfling Paladin I might have thought to see in there, but then again with this lot going Good and Civilized was basically a waste.

I am a bit surprised to see a Lamia in there. I know the semi-recent spotlight article got some thought moving for her, but it still seems like she requires too much to make her worthwhile...

Unfortunately, there are going to be a few pretty similar matchups. If these games were being played out, I'd say a lot would depend on dice.

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06/26/2008 10:10 AM  
I'm pretty happy with the results. There are some similar approaches but no bands are even closely alike. That's actually much more than I expected from a freeform approach to a pool like this.

I will contact player 16 and see if he resubmits something by Sat/Sunday

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06/26/2008 11:50 AM  
was very bummed to see the shadow dragon and the wild Mage nominated... Figured there would be a bunch o those...

Figured we'd see a lot more turmish/wildmage/CWW combos...

Surprised we didn't see one vampire dire wolf or strahd...

Lack of good civ doesn't surprise me. AoV+ halfling pali+ battlemaster and then what?

A few too many of the same figures for my liking. If there weren't actual prizes we may have seen slightly more diverse returns... No exact same bands though...

Kudos to the lamia and the ice archon! Go team different. Lack of high high dmg makes the Lamia's ac and formless fun in this format. Does she has RES necrotic too? And icy boy benifits from big ac and hit everything att bonus in this format. Good to see someone thinking outside the box. Same goes for Quoari! You can join team different too!

Rock Bottom Pricing:
Arcane Archer 30, Centaur Hero 67, Human Cleric of Bane 25, Gold Champion 34, Death Knight 52, Goblin Blackblade 9, Silentwolf Goblin 7, Orc Raider 10, Dwarf axefighter 9, Healer 9, Thaskor 65, Aspect of Demogorgon 71, Ogre 9, Fire Giant 79, Human Wanderer 7, Drunken Master 18, Barghest 12, Longstider Barbarian 27, Longtooth Barbarian 22, Frost Giant 76, Ravenous Vampire 42, Large Earth Elemental: priceless
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06/26/2008 12:26 PM  
Mines there...

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06/26/2008 4:07 PM  
To be fair, I think I threw in the Vampire Hunter to dissuade the use of too many undead...particular after the two vampire undead you mention above. Any piece with built-in hate was just weird in this format. He was part of my original warband idea, but when I looked at the list more closely, I realized that I wasn't thinking like a Tier 1 competitive crazy. So I had to mutate the idea a bit. I'm happy with the diversity. Sure, some of these warbands are almost mirror matches, but most of them are different enough it should stay interesting.

Oh and "Go Team Different!" Sounds like a reference to an episode of Pokemon, for some reason. That out of the way, I think there are more freak pieces in the comp than expected. The Bone Naga and the Vrock are both choices I wasn't expecting to see. I will say that I wasn't expecting to see so many pieces with Conceal or Hide, particularly with the new Bat Familiar running around.
-Jared

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06/28/2008 5:53 AM  
Band 16 is fixed so pairings are going up soon.   It's moving day for me so I will post a quick pairing and hope that someone can cut and paste the bands into the thread for discussion.  I will do so from now on but only have about 10 minutes of net time today.

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06/28/2008 12:16 PM  
here are my #2 and 3 bands for this... Seeing the field, either would have done well-

Shadowdragon
vamp dire wolf
digester
umberhulk delver
babau

I doub thee underquint!

And a variation on it for more acts-
shadowdragon
VDW
babau
drider
drider
Deathjump
deathjump

Rock Bottom Pricing:
Arcane Archer 30, Centaur Hero 67, Human Cleric of Bane 25, Gold Champion 34, Death Knight 52, Goblin Blackblade 9, Silentwolf Goblin 7, Orc Raider 10, Dwarf axefighter 9, Healer 9, Thaskor 65, Aspect of Demogorgon 71, Ogre 9, Fire Giant 79, Human Wanderer 7, Drunken Master 18, Barghest 12, Longstider Barbarian 27, Longtooth Barbarian 22, Frost Giant 76, Ravenous Vampire 42, Large Earth Elemental: priceless
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