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04/30/2005 10:40 PM  
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Player's Handbook, pg 116 has the description of the repeating crossbow. Picture is on pg 118.

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04/30/2005 11:06 PM  
Do you want exotic or just different?

i'm partial to javelins, the idea of dozens of javelins hurled towards enemy lines all at once is a little more intimidating than all those weenie little arrows.

You could always try simple firearms, flintlock style.

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05/01/2005 1:20 AM  
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You could always try simple firearms, flintlock style.



Which I know were covered in the DMG 3.0. Not sure if they're still in there for 3.5.

Options from Arms & Equipment Guide:
Halfling skiprocks (able to hit two opponents if thrown right)
Bolas (ranged trip attack)
Gnome calculus (oversized sling hurls flasks of acid, alchemists fire, etc)
Chakram (think Xena, Warrior Princess)
Elven Double-bow (a bow designed to shoot two arrows at once)


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05/01/2005 1:22 AM  
This month's Dragon has a number of new weapons, including the pilum, a spear designed to disable an enemy's shield.

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05/01/2005 1:29 AM  
There's always the old stand-by of rocks.

Maybe some Kender? [}:)]

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05/01/2005 1:33 AM  
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05/01/2005 2:34 AM  
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i'm partial to javelins, the idea of dozens of javelins hurled towards enemy lines all at once is a little more intimidating than all those weenie little arrows.




Frist wave would be javelins...when the enemy closed in switch to throwing axes...then to melee.



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05/01/2005 9:17 AM  
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quote:
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i'm partial to javelins, the idea of dozens of javelins hurled towards enemy lines all at once is a little more intimidating than all those weenie little arrows.




Frist wave would be javelins...when the enemy closed in switch to throwing axes...then to melee.





I like that....
It's gotta be intimidating to face foes with skill in such diverse weapons. Whenever you see someone do something you can't you go "ooh. aaah".

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05/01/2005 10:24 AM  
Fireball. The ultimate ranged weapon.

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05/01/2005 10:26 AM  
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Im setting up a millitary campaign in which the pcs will be accompanied by a group of soldiers. standard crossbows and bows wont do. Has anyone designed a repeating crossbow or use firearms in adventures or anything else. im looking for ideas




Why would you NOT use longbows? I know they are not very exciting or exotic but they have the best range. Why chuck a javelin or hand axe, or spear, or dagger when you can launch volleys of arrows from 100 feet away.
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05/01/2005 10:55 AM  
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quote:
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Im setting up a millitary campaign in which the pcs will be accompanied by a group of soldiers. standard crossbows and bows wont do. Has anyone designed a repeating crossbow or use firearms in adventures or anything else. im looking for ideas




Why would you NOT use longbows? I know they are not very exciting or exotic but they have the best range. Why chuck a javelin or hand axe, or spear, or dagger when you can launch volleys of arrows from 100 feet away.
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I know I don't always go with the most practical options for either my characters or my NPCs, but for me that's what puts the fantasy in the game. Strange sites and heroism doesn't always involve monsters. But that's just my style, I'm not critisisng the use of longbows.

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05/01/2005 11:01 AM  
longbows and repeating crosbows are cool and im working on a design for a repeating crossbow. looking to create a shootout between the pc/npcs and the enemy hiding out in a farm house. Like something you would see out of a western

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05/01/2005 11:20 AM  
Well, if you're going for a western shoot out type of feel then everyone needs to have repeating hand crossbows.

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05/01/2005 12:04 PM  
In my world the crystal wizards have invented magical cannons, basicaly giant sized staffs charged with various spells, like a cannon of fireballs. In D&D, if you want to keep it fantastical wands are pretty much guns, give em wands of magic missile and you're good to go. You can't even miss, LOL.


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05/01/2005 12:52 PM  
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Why would you NOT use longbows? I know they are not very exciting or exotic but they have the best range. Why chuck a javelin or hand axe, or spear, or dagger when you can launch volleys of arrows from 100 feet away.
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May be for simple book-keeping.

wicked cool campaign had the PCs accompany by a group of soldiers.. he would have to keep track for may be 20+ quivers, if he wanted the shoot-out in the farm house to happen. Or simply a different style of combat, like the Romans had skrimishers threw javelins at enemy lines before their armour infantry move up.

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05/01/2005 1:33 PM  
The Thri-kreen on Athas use Chu'Tra (off memory here probley way off). Imagine an oversized Shuriken. I have always liked them and threatened to use them.

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05/01/2005 3:52 PM  
looking back along the thread my favorite idea was the skipping stones. I can just imagine 20 being hurled at once and richoheting all over the place. That's just hilarious.

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05/01/2005 6:46 PM  
You might try the battle dart. A medieval weapon, it comes in small or large variants (the large one can be seen in use by Kjell Nilsson playing "Lord Humungous" in the Road Warrior to kill Vernon Wells (Wez)during the final road battle. While the dart of the game is designed to disable an opponent, the battle dart with its three prongs and front heavy design is suppose to be used en masse to kill enemy even in heavier armor.

Military units use the darts when advancing by throwing them in tall, steep arcs against a prepared defender to force them to redeploy their shields to meet the threat. If the enemy does not "turtle" their shields, they get killed by a rain of the heavy darts. If they do, then they loose the advantage of the shield in meeting a charge.

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05/01/2005 7:08 PM  
GreekFire throwers, aka Flamethrowers might be interesting too. That would lead to the ocassional Kender covered in Greek Fire I belive.[:D]

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05/01/2005 9:50 PM  
some of these ideas i like

am i the only one who likes kenders

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05/02/2005 7:15 AM  
Kender need to DIE. Annoying little bugs.

Not quite as annoying as Gully Dwarves though.

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05/02/2005 7:19 AM  
I thought kender were pretty funny in the first DL book I read, but then I read another, and another, and by then it was, enough already. Cleptomania is only cute for so long before it becomes frustrating.

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05/02/2005 10:11 AM  
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The Thri-kreen on Athas use Chu'Tra (off memory here probley way off). Imagine an oversized Shuriken. I have always liked them and threatened to use them.



Chatkcha's the word. And they're in 3e as well. I know they're in Savage Species, and possibly other books too.


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05/02/2005 10:56 AM  
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some of these ideas i like

am i the only one who likes kenders



In my world, during the Great Race Wars (elf vs. drow, dwarves vs. duergar, gnomes vs. svirfneblin in a Loser Leaves the Surface World Parcheesi tournament -- the gnomes cheated) the kender were the first casualty. I mean, if every kender has a 10% chance for a useful magic item, and you kill 10 kender...

And thus do the kender pass from the memory of the world. I think the other races just wanted an excuse to kill all the little so-an-sos...

Back on topic, you might want to let firearms be exotic weapons (-4 to hit if not proficient) that don't do much damage (d6?) but crit on an 19 (or even 18?) or better with a x4 crit multiplier. When they hit a vital area, they hurt. They should also take an inconvenient amount of time to load (a round longer than a heavy crossbow?). You might have a 1 or 2 be a misfire or jam that takes an extra round to clear. Three ones in a row, and the gun blows up or is otherwise disabled.

Just a first pass. In my game, gunpowder is a dwarven military secret that they keep VERY secret (to the point of having human alchemists that discover it "disappear"), so I haven't given it that much thought.

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05/03/2005 8:47 PM  
Go with the boomerang! [)]

Seriously, I like using both the atlatl (a stick that propels a small javelin: http://www.atlatl.com/) and the pilum (as was already mentioned).

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05/04/2005 1:38 AM  
I like that actually, they could even "circulate" coded texts with inacuracies in the formulas. Leading to the subsequent loud disapearances of several human alchemists.
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Just a first pass. In my game, gunpowder is a dwarven military secret that they keep VERY secret (to the point of having human alchemists that discover it "disappear"), so I haven't given it that much thought.

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