Hero of the Force
Siddartha of Suburbia
Underboss
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 | | 05/04/2005 3:25 PM |
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Hero of the Force
Siddartha of Suburbia
Underboss
2277 Posts
| | 05/04/2005 3:25 PM |
| | The Duros techie was alright, The Tarasin was AMAZING! I once had an NPC like this and wish I had a spare trog to make a similar conversion. I really like the Bothan too! What is this guy using to sculpt the robes? | |
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B
Underboss
1189 Posts
| | 05/04/2005 3:40 PM |
| | If you mean Art...he needs half a stormtrooper helmet.....I hated art.....smug bastich.[}:)] | |
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mordantos
Underboss
1210 Posts
| | 05/04/2005 4:36 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Siddartha of Suburbia
The Duros techie was alright, The Tarasin was AMAZING! I once had an NPC like this and wish I had a spare trog to make a similar conversion. I really like the Bothan too! What is this guy using to sculpt the robes?
If I remember correctly from when they were posted on the WotC Boards, he used the ubiquitous "Green Stuff" from GamesWorkshop. | | | |
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Hero of the Force
Siddartha of Suburbia
Underboss
2277 Posts
| | 05/04/2005 5:31 PM |
| "The force is strong in this one."
I'm exercising my newfound Moderator force skill as this thread is more of a roleplaying than a skirmish topic. After all, a figure modified has use for RPG or as collector, but not really for skirmish. [:D] | |
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Fry
Underboss
1724 Posts
| | 05/05/2005 11:13 AM |
| | Wow, those Jedi are pretty sweet. | |
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Hero of the Force
Siddartha of Suburbia
Underboss
2277 Posts
| | 05/05/2005 2:28 PM |
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Originally posted by mordantos
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Originally posted by Siddartha of Suburbia
The Duros techie was alright, The Tarasin was AMAZING! I once had an NPC like this and wish I had a spare trog to make a similar conversion. I really like the Bothan too! What is this guy using to sculpt the robes?
If I remember correctly from when they were posted on the WotC Boards, he used the ubiquitous "Green Stuff" from GamesWorkshop.
Has anyone worked with this stuff themselves? I'm wondering how easy/hard it would be to work with on a casual basis? I don't have much time to go resculpting figs for every player and villain I introduce, but every once and awhile I wouldn't mind trying my hand at it. | |
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Fun Guy from Yuggoth
Cthulhufnord
Warlord
10719 Posts
Umass Amherst Baby!
| | 05/05/2005 8:05 PM |
| | It's a little tricky to use at first. Very toxic it is too, you want to make sure you wash up afterwards. It's sticky and nappy at higher temperatures kinda like sculptors wax. Generaly you want to get a general shape on the the model then come back after a half-hour or two after it stiffens a bit, that's generaly when you can break out the xacto knives or dental picks. | |
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Hero of the Force
Siddartha of Suburbia
Underboss
2277 Posts
| | 05/06/2005 7:00 AM |
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Originally posted by Cthulhufnord
It's a little tricky to use at first. Very toxic it is too, you want to make sure you wash up afterwards. It's sticky and nappy at higher temperatures kinda like sculptors wax. Generaly you want to get a general shape on the the model then come back after a half-hour or two after it stiffens a bit, that's generaly when you can break out the xacto knives or dental picks.
Sounds pretty involved. Is it durable? Does it eventually become permanently hard?
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Temperance
Sergeant
502 Posts
| | 05/06/2005 2:23 PM |
| Hey, those are mine!
I used a combination of Brown Stuff and Green Stuff. (It was the first time using Brown Stuff, so I was experimenting more with that stuff at the time.)
I did the robes in multiple parts. The lower parts of the robes was done by first flattening out a piece of brown stuff between two pieces of wax paper to the desired thickness of the robes. I'd then cut out a general robe shape with an exacto knife. I would then attach the robes to the figure, securing it pretty well around the waist, but not worrying too much about how it looked at that point. I then opened, creased, moved, etc., the robes with a dental pick. I allowed that part to cure. The upper parts of the robes were a bit easier because I could just press brownstuff against the figure and smooth it out, and then put in folds with a wet dental pick. (You always dip your tools in water as it stops them from sticking to the greenstuff.)
The putty is pretty durable and it does become permanently hard. I was a little worried about modifying the flexable WotC plastic, but it actually hasn't been that bad. (Even though I've had the lightsaber fall off the Tarasin once...)
Lightsabers were made by cutting a thin wire to the appropriate length and then wrapping it in brownstuff and rolled on wax paper. I then took an exacto knife to cut in definitions for handle details (like where the handle ends and the blade of the lightsaber begins.) I let those harden before attaching to the figure.
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Champion of the common Flying Monkey (Fez optional)
Peter Lee on the WotC board
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Fun Guy from Yuggoth
Cthulhufnord
Warlord
10719 Posts
Umass Amherst Baby!
| | 05/06/2005 2:40 PM |
| | Good job on those conversions, I'm impressed with them. I've done some minor tinkering myself with GW stuff and am just getting into modding DDM minis into SW minis. | |
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Hero of the Force
Siddartha of Suburbia
Underboss
2277 Posts
| | 05/06/2005 5:30 PM |
| | Wow. They are some really excellent looking figs. And thank you very much for the description of how you did them. Someday when I feel ambitious enough I'll be attempting this myself. How long does it take to modify a figure like this? | |
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Temperance
Sergeant
502 Posts
| | 05/07/2005 12:05 AM |
| Work time, probably about 4 hours spread over a week. I'd work in front of the TV so I'm not positive.
Figures were stripped before converting by soaking for 5 seconds in an acetone bath, and then scrubbed with an old toothbrush. worked swell, but I'd try it with a common figure first.
It's very important to be patient. It's much better to get something that looks good done and let the putty cure, than to try to tackle too much and smash your hard work with a badly placed finger. | |
Champion of the common Flying Monkey (Fez optional)
Peter Lee on the WotC board
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Fun Guy from Yuggoth
Cthulhufnord
Warlord
10719 Posts
Umass Amherst Baby!
| | 05/07/2005 12:50 AM |
| Amen to that, I just ruined a wax statue of Dagon that I was prepping to bronze cast. I got a little hasty and several days of work got ruined. I think I'm going to take a break on the large metal minis(statues) and work with some smaller stuff(DDM, SWM).
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Originally posted by Temperance
Work time, probably about 4 hours spread over a week. I'd work in front of the TV so I'm not positive.
Figures were stripped before converting by soaking for 5 seconds in an acetone bath, and then scrubbed with an old toothbrush. worked swell, but I'd try it with a common figure first.
It's very important to be patient. It's much better to get something that looks good done and let the putty cure, than to try to tackle too much and smash your hard work with a badly placed finger.
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Fun Guy from Yuggoth
Cthulhufnord
Warlord
10719 Posts
Umass Amherst Baby!
| | 05/07/2005 5:10 PM |
| Here are some more Jedi Conversions I found. These use reaper minatures, I'm realy jealous of this guys skill.
Twileik Jedi
http://www.coolminiornot.com/index/m/Reaper/id/88195
Dark Jedi, Think SnakeEyes/Stormshadow from GI Joe
http://www.coolminiornot.com/index/m/Reaper/id/88194
Cool Female Jedi with purple lightsaber
http://www.coolminiornot.com/index/m/Reaper/id/88193
Sith Warrior(bondage freak)
http://www.coolminiornot.com/88192
Same verse, same as the first a little bit better....
http://www.coolminiornot.com/88191
Dooku's younger cousin
http://www.coolminiornot.com/88188
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Hero of the Force
Siddartha of Suburbia
Underboss
2277 Posts
| | 05/07/2005 8:37 PM |
| | I really like those Sith Warriors. This summer I'm definately going to attempt a few sculpts of my own. | |
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Fun Guy from Yuggoth
Cthulhufnord
Warlord
10719 Posts
Umass Amherst Baby!
| | 05/07/2005 10:09 PM |
| | I'm currently sorting my extra D&D minis that I'm sceduling for SWM conversions. First one on my list is the Deepshadow Elf, with his long flowing cloak and sword stance it will make the perfect jedi or sith. | |
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bradu
Sergeant
456 Posts
Portland, OR
| | 05/09/2005 12:13 PM |
| I'm thinking about trying this, but it looks like it might be a little trickier than I thought getting all the right stuff.
Ok so I need green stuff at least. And maybe brown stuff too? I buy these at a hobby store I assume.
I also need a dental pick? Where do I get this and how much does it cost? I'll probably just start out with the cheap plastic sculpting tools.
I need acetone as well, to strip the original mini? Where do I get this and how do I do it? Somehow it sounds rather unsafe.
X-acto knives won't be a problem, got that already.
Is there anything else I need, and or any more tips people can give on exactly how to go about sculpting or modding a mini?
What about sculpey or fimo, will those work well?
I assume I'll need paints and stuff, but I'll worry about that next time.
How about glue? Will I need any? If so what kind?
Thanks in advance for any help. | |
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Fun Guy from Yuggoth
Cthulhufnord
Warlord
10719 Posts
Umass Amherst Baby!
| | 05/10/2005 12:47 AM |
| The Detal picks you can get realtivly cheaply at a good hardware store. The stripper you can probally pick up at an art supply store or some stronger stuff at a hardware store. You may not need any glue unless you are cutting and repositioning the mini, I sugest ZapaGap in that case it's good glue that's served me well. Scuplty and Femo don't work all that well on smaller projects, although you can make neat terrain with them.
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Originally posted by bradu
I'm thinking about trying this, but it looks like it might be a little trickier than I thought getting all the right stuff.
Ok so I need green stuff at least. And maybe brown stuff too? I buy these at a hobby store I assume.
I also need a dental pick? Where do I get this and how much does it cost? I'll probably just start out with the cheap plastic sculpting tools.
I need acetone as well, to strip the original mini? Where do I get this and how do I do it? Somehow it sounds rather unsafe.
X-acto knives won't be a problem, got that already.
Is there anything else I need, and or any more tips people can give on exactly how to go about sculpting or modding a mini?
What about sculpey or fimo, will those work well?
I assume I'll need paints and stuff, but I'll worry about that next time.
How about glue? Will I need any? If so what kind?
Thanks in advance for any help.
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Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
ash nazg thrakatulûk, agh burzum-ishi krimpatul | |
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Temperance
Sergeant
502 Posts
| | 05/10/2005 11:23 AM |
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Originally posted by bradu
Ok so I need green stuff at least. And maybe brown stuff too? I buy these at a hobby store I assume.
Well, you don't *need* brown stuff. Brown stuff is typically used for more technological things because it can keep an edge better.
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I also need a dental pick? Where do I get this and how much does it cost? I'll probably just start out with the cheap plastic sculpting tools.
Consider a smooth toothpick; I've used that a lot.
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I need acetone as well, to strip the original mini? Where do I get this and how do I do it? Somehow it sounds rather unsafe.
The most dangerous thing about acetone is that it's extremely/explosively flammable. You could probably get it much cheaper at a hardware store. You'll need to prime it before painting.
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What about sculpey or fimo, will those work well?
Any of the oven-cured clays (like sculpty) would need to be unattached to the figure when baked. I don't know if one of the plastic figures could survive a 225 (?) degree oven. I've used the oven baked clays for quick forms.
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How about glue? Will I need any? If so what kind?
I personally prefer epoxy, but then I do a lot of pinning. Pinning is gluing two items together by drilling a hole in each and inserting a metal rod (like an unused staple) to hold things together -- much more stable. I had to pin the Jedi I did to a new base because I wanted them in line with my other SW minis.
To drill a hole in the soft plastic, drop the figure in ice water for 5 or 10 minutes to make it a bit tougher. If it starts to warm up while you're drilling the hole, put it back in the ice water for a little while longer.
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Champion of the common Flying Monkey (Fez optional)
Peter Lee on the WotC board
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